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Technical => Electrical Tech => Topic started by: 4thqtr on July 20, 2006, 02:47:04 PM

Title: How frequently do MAP sensors go bad?
Post by: 4thqtr on July 20, 2006, 02:47:04 PM
Engine: 5.0

I recently changed the upper/lower intakes, and afterward the car would stall while stopped/in park. I pulled a code 22, so I guess it's the MAP sensor, which I didn't touch (I think?)

Anyways, how often do these things go bad? Should I just go out and buy another one, or could something else be causing the code?

Also, to double check, I attached the vacuum line from the MAP sensor to the middle of the under side of the upper intake (opposite the vacuum line that runs to the charcoal canister (?) in the front.) I think this is right?

As always, thanks in advance for the help!
Title: How frequently do MAP sensors go bad?
Post by: softtouch on July 20, 2006, 05:06:58 PM
Mine has been working ok for 22 years.
Title: How frequently do MAP sensors go bad?
Post by: JeremyB on July 20, 2006, 05:12:26 PM
MAP failures aren't too common, but pretty straightforward to check.

http://fordfuelinjection.com/index.php?p=27

The only downside is you need some kind of tool to measure the frequency. My Fluke 111 (http://"http://us.fluke.com/usen/products/Fluke+110.htm?catalog_name=FlukeUnitedStates") does the trick for me.

Just to be on the safe side, I'd make sure the MAP vacuum line is seeing full engine vacuum...to eliminate any routing issues.
Title: How frequently do MAP sensors go bad?
Post by: 4thqtr on July 20, 2006, 08:28:35 PM
Thanks for the replies guys. Since the Cougar isn't going to make the trek to Cat Jam, I'll be able to tackle this problem in a more relaxed fashion. I don't have anything that can measure frequency, so I guess I'll start with the vacuum lines and assume the MAP is operating normally. These MAP sensors cost almost 100 bucks, so let's hope that I just pulled a bonehead move somewhere! Thanks again guys.
Title: How frequently do MAP sensors go bad?
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 20, 2006, 10:19:13 PM
My 18 year old MAP sensor works fine. I'd check the vac lines before buying a new sensor.
Title: How frequently do MAP sensors go bad?
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on July 20, 2006, 11:08:33 PM
Pocket part at the J/Y...

They are all the same for a EEC-IV system... LSC Lincoln, 4cyl Stang, 5.0 Bird, no difference...

Jeremy... Cool on the Fluke, guess it's time to get a new meter...
Title: How frequently do MAP sensors go bad?
Post by: Bob on July 21, 2006, 01:04:39 AM
pocket part LOL :) been there :giggle:
Title: How frequently do MAP sensors go bad?
Post by: softtouch on July 22, 2006, 02:45:13 PM
Quote from: TurboCoupe50
Pocket part at the J/Y...

They are all the same for a EEC-IV system... LSC Lincoln, 4cyl Stang, 5.0 Bird, no difference...


TSB 89-1-12

MAP and BAP Sensor Application Chart
Ford 1984-87 All Carlines
Lincoln-Mercury 1984-89 All Carlines
Light Truck 1984-89 All Trucklines

A quick reference MAP and BAP sensor application chart has been assembled to assist technicians in making sure the correct service parts are used. If an incorrect MAP or BAP sensor is installed, poor fuel economy, erratic engine idle or hesitation on acceleration may result.

(Skipping over Truck MAPs and Car BAPs)

Passenger car MAPs:

1984..........2.3L HSC FBC.....E6PZ-9F479-A

1984-86.....2.3L HSC CFI......E6PZ-9F479-A
................2.5L HSC CFI

1984-85.....3.8L CFI............E5SZ-9F479-A

1984-85.....5.0L CFI............E6TZ-9F479-A

1986..........2.3L OHC...........E6FZ-9F479-A
................3.0L EFI
................3.8L CFI
................5.0L SEFI

1984-85.....2.3L OHC............E6FZ-9F479-A

1987-89.....1.9L CFI.............E7DZ-9F479-A
................2.3L HSC CFI
................2.5L HSC CFI

1987-89.....2.3L OHC EFI.......E7FZ-9F479-A
................2.3L HSC EFI
................2.9L EFI
................3.0L EFI
................3.8L EFI
................5.0L SEFI
Title: How frequently do MAP sensors go bad?
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on July 22, 2006, 03:19:28 PM
I stand corrected, but looks like most of the EFI/SEFI '87-'89 units interchange which are the ones I have on hand.

Just what does the TSB say about the BAPs????
Title: How frequently do MAP sensors go bad?
Post by: softtouch on July 22, 2006, 03:36:36 PM
Passenger car BAPs:

1984-89.....1.6L EFI...............E7FZ 12A644-A
................1.9L EFI
................2.3L Turbo

1989..........3.0 SHO..............E7FZ-12A644-A

1988..........5.0L Mass Air.......E8FZ-12A644-A
................(Mustang California)

1989..........5.0L Mass Air........E8FZ-12A644-A