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Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: 5.0willgo on June 26, 2006, 07:18:55 PM
*EDIT- picking it up next weekend.:D

I'm looking into getting this '86 GS.

One of my dad's drivers is selling it. It has a freshly rebuilt (maybe a year ago) 5.0 with forged internals, new/rebuilt AOD, and ployurethane bushings. It was painted not too long ago but due to py paint work, it is peeling in some spots. The car doesn't have any rust on it though.

The guy was letting his daughter drive it when a couple weeks ago, he got a call from her that she wrecked it. She spun it in the rain and rammed the left rear tire into a curb. The only visable damage I can find from this incident is that the rear bumper is cracked and the left front fender has a light crease. There is no other body damage on the car. He said he thinks the rear is bent but I couldn't verify that today while looking. It was raining too hard to get on the ground and look but the rim is certainly going to need to be replaced (I'll probably throw turbines on it anyway).

Other stuff I've found on the outside is that both tailights have cracks and one headlight is cracked.

Now onto the interior. It is dirty but that was to be expected. The dash is also cracked but whos isn't. The stock wheel was replaced with an aftermarket one. The headliner is shredded and the drivers door armrest is falling off.

The car has manual door locks, manual crank windows, and a manual drivers side mirror. No passenger side mirror or rear defroster.

Under the hood is filthy, but that's no problem. The heater core has been capped and the ac is disconnected. The engine starts and idles beautifully but since he wasn't home when I looked at it, I couldn't test drive it. That and I'd have to bring a spare tire with me for the left rear that's busted.

So here's the deal, he wants $500 for the car. Actually he wants $500 for the engine and tranny. He said if I don't buy the car, he is going to sell the motor and tranny and junk the car. I'm teetering on the top of the fence and don't know which direction to go. While it is nice to save one of these cars from certain death, it also seems like it may need a little bit too much work. So what do you all think?

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Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: Tbird232ci on June 26, 2006, 07:32:17 PM
shiznit, if i had a place to put it, id buy it
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: cougarcragar on June 26, 2006, 07:44:16 PM
Wow...
That just amazes me. An '86 GS with crank windows, manual locks, no pass. mirror, no rear defroster, and a 5.0. Did the car come with a 5.0?
It may very well be worth restoring.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: 5.0willgo on June 26, 2006, 08:54:12 PM
Yep, he rebuilt the original 5.0 that was in the car.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: Chuck W on June 26, 2006, 09:35:59 PM
Hell..aside from the paint there really isn't "too much work"....but then again that may just be me : ).

Do you WANT another Cougar?
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: 5.0willgo on June 26, 2006, 10:12:13 PM
Quote from: Chuck W
Do you WANT another Cougar?

I actually do. I love my '88 to death despite the problems I've had with it and would gladly take another. I'm addicted to these cars now so...

If the rear is bad in this '86, this would give me a good opportunity to put a TC rear in the '88 (for better gears and disk brakes). I could swap the rear out of the '88 and put it in the '86.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: 4thqtr on June 26, 2006, 10:28:09 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
shiznit, if i had a place to put it, id buy it


Stole those words right out of my mouth...

If you pass, I'm sure a MD cougar guy would pick it up. Ahem, a certain someone in Westminster perhaps.  :giggle:
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: thunderjet302 on June 26, 2006, 10:45:07 PM
For $500 you can't go wrong. Hell if I could find a SEFI 5.0 car for $500 I'd buy it and I'd FIND some where to put it;)
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: Clayton on June 26, 2006, 11:16:08 PM
Quote from: 5.0willgo
The dash is also cracked but whos isn't.


mine isnt :P

nice find man... make it have a nice home :D
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: DVP on June 26, 2006, 11:18:01 PM
now that is a bare car. is it an ho rebuild or not. no pics of damage?
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: DVP on June 26, 2006, 11:19:58 PM
yours also has an empty bay!
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: 5.0willgo on June 26, 2006, 11:41:14 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302
For $500 you can't go wrong. Hell if I could find a SEFI 5.0 car for $500 I'd buy it and I'd FIND some where to put it;)

Oh, I have room for it so that's not an issue ;)
Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack
mine isnt :P

Smarty...


    
Quote from: cougar86_89
now that is a bare car. is it an ho rebuild or not. no pics of damage?

Its a rebuild of the SO that was in it but with forged parts.
As far as pics of the damage, this was all I managed to get. I no sooner got to look at the car and it started raining very heavily.

It will need a new driver's front fender and a rear bumper but that's it as far as the body is concerned.

The left rear wheel is bent from the curb as well. The guy tells me there is rear diff damage but I didn't see any signs of it.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: cougrrr302 on June 26, 2006, 11:53:14 PM
In simple words...DO IT!! I bought one, identical to it, but with electric everything, however I just sold it, that one is in better condition. I think its a hell of a buy. I like the look even with the NASCAR styel rims. I'd buy it.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: DVP on June 26, 2006, 11:53:25 PM
i know all about the rain i dont blame you for not takin any more. its rain for like 3 day. close to 7 in. this is no fun for vacation.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: Cougars 2 go on June 27, 2006, 09:31:29 PM
Do you think this guy really has the time to fuss around with pulling the engine and trans then trying to get $500 for an SO 5.0?  Does he have access to highly traveled road frontage, free ad space, or people in the car repair business?

Or is he trying to find someone who will go through the effort of pulling an SO engine and trans then turn around and pay him $500 for doing none of the work?

Did he know you are a Cougar nut before you showed up?  I'm wondering if any of that is bluff.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: 5.0willgo on June 27, 2006, 10:03:54 PM
No bluffing.
He drag races on the side and builds his own cars in his garage. His father has been an engine builder for nearly his entire life and did the motor on this car. He's plenty capable of yanking everything out of it himself.

He said he wants $500 for the engine and transmission and when considering how much it costs to rebuild those, that's not that bad of a price. He didn't feel the car was worth selling whole so he was going to junk it. He's remaining strong on $500 firm so I'm sure there's no talking him down in price. He has just had enough of the car and wants it gone but he feels his work in the drivetrain is worth this amount and will accept nothing less.

I really don't think he would get that many "nibbles" for a SO 5.0 if he tried to sell it out of the car. Atleast I don't know of anyone looking for one.

He knows I'm into Cougars but not to what extent. He's seen my car on several occasions and we've talked before. Since I do like the cars, he offered the entire thing to me for the price he wants for the engine and tranny. I'm sure he would rather go this route since it will be less work for him.


So as of right now, he is holding the car for me. I'm going to look at it better when I can in a couple weekends.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: Haystack on June 29, 2006, 03:40:17 AM
Quote from: cougarcragar
Wow...
That just amazes me. An '86 GS with crank windows, manual locks, no pass. mirror, no rear defroster, and a 5.0. Did the car come with a 5.0?
It may very well be worth restoring.



Sounds like my 86 gs to a tee. It didnt start off black but it is now....

I say you c00ch it up. Worse case, you get a good parts car. And if it runs, you can always sell it for $500. Maybe to one of us. It is a rare optioned car. Never seen another one other then mine. Hand crank is the shiznit!
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: 5.0willgo on June 29, 2006, 09:15:44 AM
Cool, so yours is stripped too.
This one wasn't originally black either. It was red (don't know which shade specifically) but was repainted last year. Who knows maybe these two are the only few left in existence.

Well guys, I think I'm going for it. I'm really digging the 4-eyes. I'm going to look over it again but just like Chuck said, it isn't really too much work other than paint. I'm sure I can patch the flaws and make it presentable.

So who knows, maybe you all will see me in this thing at Cat Jam...
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: CougarSE on June 29, 2006, 10:20:43 AM
You can catch a glimpse of red on the firewall.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: 88FoxBird on June 29, 2006, 11:37:47 AM
Why can't I find anything like that in northeast ohio? Hell I wouldnt care if it had an engine or not. I say get it man.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: 4thqtr on June 29, 2006, 10:43:37 PM
So if you told him to keep the engine and transmission, he'd give you the rest of the car for free ... ? ;)
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: 5.0willgo on July 01, 2006, 08:48:40 AM
Quote from: 4thqtr
So if you told him to keep the engine and transmission, he'd give you the rest of the car for free ... ? ;)


:rollin:

Well, I talked to him again. He said that the rear is not bent and the drivetrain is sound. He convinced his daughter that the rear was bent so he could get the car away from her.

I'm picking it up next weekend :D
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: Haystack on July 02, 2006, 08:30:38 PM
Nice. Stripped cars rule. Its less shiznit you have to pull out if you make it fast or want to modify the interior. Take some not rain pictures when you get a chance. I will be watching this one.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: Haystack on July 02, 2006, 08:36:50 PM
So, quick question, Your car wouldnt happen to have 10" rear drums, and no traction lock or quad shocks, would it?
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: Clayton on July 02, 2006, 08:38:15 PM
well now you have one of each style ;-)

Black and simple
white and complex

basics rule
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: DVP on July 02, 2006, 10:19:06 PM
to add to what haystack said the less shiznit there is the less there is to fix. want to see so more pics as soon as you can.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: CougarSE on July 03, 2006, 12:10:17 AM
Quote from: cougar86_89
to add to what haystack said the less shiznit there is the less there is to fix.

Where the hell is the fun in that?  My car would scare you I guess.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: DVP on July 03, 2006, 02:13:18 PM
the fun is at the parts store when you have the extra money to buy what you really want with it! i hate fixing shiznit that breaks but the car is 21 thats what happens.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 03, 2006, 05:05:43 PM
You'd love my car. I have every electrical option except the sun roof. You want to talk about a lot of things that can break.....
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: Haystack on July 03, 2006, 08:57:07 PM
Quote from: CougarSE
Where the hell is the fun in that?  My car would scare you I guess.



Okay, its lighter and that makes it faster. When all is said and done, its still a v-8.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: Clayton on July 03, 2006, 09:57:39 PM
closer inspection of it...

no power brakes?
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: 5.0willgo on July 04, 2006, 09:09:03 AM
Well, 4 days and counting. I'm hoping to pick it up on Saturday.
After I get it, I'll clean it up and such and get more pics on here.

I like the fact that it has practically nothing on it. My '88 is optioned to the hilt and there's nothing else that really can be done to it. Atleast nothing that I want to do. None of the electronic options have broken on the '88 thankfully.


Quote from: Haystack
So, quick question, Your car wouldnt happen to have 10" rear drums, and no traction lock or quad shocks, would it?

The '86? Don't know. I'll find out when I get it home.
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: DVP on July 04, 2006, 01:00:21 PM
take some more pics of how it was when you bought it and then clean it up. before and after pics are always cool. i wish i would have my car was a mess
Title: My New '86 GS
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 05, 2006, 02:39:35 PM
I'll give you $525 for it and you can drive it out to my house :giggle:  It's only half way accross the country.