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Technical => Drivetrain Tech => Topic started by: Warbird9 on June 16, 2006, 11:05:10 PM

Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Warbird9 on June 16, 2006, 11:05:10 PM
Does anyone here have any personal experience with Ford's King Cobra clutch kits? Since the description I read said that the kit has  low pedal effort, and since I'm not going to be building up alot of HP and torque, I was thinking about this set-up for my 5.0/T5 combo.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Blown306Cougar on June 16, 2006, 11:50:29 PM
it will work fine;)  it's good up to about 350HP..
i had it in my car untill i rebuilt my engine.. which i replaced it with a spec stage 2 clutch and a spec aluminum flywheel .. and it was still in good shape.. and my first engine was supercharged allso..

any other questions?


Nick
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Warbird9 on June 17, 2006, 02:06:55 AM
Quote from: Blown306Cougar
it will work fine;)  it's good up to about 350HP..
i had it in my car untill i rebuilt my engine.. which i replaced it with a spec stage 2 clutch and a spec aluminum flywheel .. and it was still in good shape.. and my first engine was supercharged allso..

any other questions?


Nick



Thanks Nick! Actually, I do have another Q. How is the pedal feel? Whatever clutch is in the 'stang parts car I have (that's the one I'm getting the 5.0/t5 out of) the pedal feel is pretty heavy.

Thanks again, Nick!
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Nate on June 17, 2006, 07:41:46 AM
pedal feel is great, not hard at all compaired to most other kits. iv driven some of my friends cars with spec clutches or even the pep-boys special ones and their hard as rocks compaired to this. one of my friends complaines about his pep boys clutch because his leg is killing him while in city traffic, but im always fine.
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Tbird232ci on June 17, 2006, 08:31:47 AM
Me being used to the TC hydrolic clutch, i feel that the pedal is a bit heavy, but its not unbearable by any means.
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Ether947 on June 17, 2006, 08:35:42 AM
I hated this clutch on my buddy's Stang. Pedal effort was REALLY hard. Adjusting the release point was futile because it always changed back to the way it was. Even broke a t/o bearing, split it in half. After just about giving up on his drivetrain ever being civilized (replaced the t/o bearing retainer several times and the King Cobra w/another) he changed the clutch to a Centerforce I and he "claims" the pedal effort drastically reduced. I refuse to believe this until I drive the car myself.
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: shame302 on June 17, 2006, 08:54:59 AM
i have not put a ton of miles on the one i put in the tbird but the KK feels great in that. i dont realy have anything to compare it to as my ranger had the hydrolic clutch. my mustang has the same KK as well. i like it.
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Blown306Cougar on June 17, 2006, 12:45:07 PM
the king cobra should have a soft pedal feel if it dos'nt then the clutch cable might be worn.. "not broke lol" just worn.. what happens some times is the cable it self digs into the outer housing and binds up..




Nick
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Warbird9 on June 18, 2006, 01:23:52 AM
Thanks for all the input guys!

With adjustable cables and firewall adjusters, can you use both, or is it one or the other?

Also, once you have the clutch and cable setups installed, how do you get the clutch setup and adjusted? Haven't had any experience  with working on manual trannies yet, so I'm in the dark here.:D
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Blown306Cougar on June 18, 2006, 02:30:31 AM
you can use both..

the problem is finding an ajustable cable that last more then 6 months too a year. most are not made as good as the stock cable.. i had a jegs ajustable cable and firewall ajuster and the cable took a dump after 3 months..the problem was that the case of the cable colapsed..it stated to cruch at the top of the cable..which made it useless..so now i have a stock style cable with the firewall ajuster and so far so good..
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Nate on June 18, 2006, 07:27:18 AM
nick, did you use the mustang vac booster to fit the firewall adjuster? i think thats what bob and bill ended up doing, think i will too soon, my adjustable cable has lasted me over a year tho with the king cobra clutch, but climbing under a lowered car to adjust it sucks.
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Blown306Cougar on June 18, 2006, 10:34:19 AM
nope i'm still useing the stock cougar booster..
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Warbird9 on June 20, 2006, 02:36:32 PM
Thanks for all the info guys! Gotta love this forum!:bowdown:

Still have some questions though....

When buying a new flywheel, how do I know what oz. balance to get?
One flywheel I was looking at for 86-95 5.0 157 tooth showed part nos. for 0 oz., 28 oz., and 50 oz. balances. (Too many options to figure out:yuck: :giggle: )

Also, what are the basic methods for setting the clutch up with a new clutch and cable install?
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Blown306Cougar on June 20, 2006, 08:13:37 PM
Quote from: Warbird9
Thanks for all the info guys! Gotta love this forum!:bowdown:

Still have some questions though....

When buying a new flywheel, how do I know what oz. balance to get?
One flywheel I was looking at for 86-95 5.0 157 tooth showed part nos. for 0 oz., 28 oz., and 50 oz. balances. (Too many options to figure out:yuck: :giggle: )

Also, what are the basic methods for setting the clutch up with a new clutch and cable install?


50oz.. 28oz is for old 302's and 351's..0"zero"is i think for pot smokers.. ;)

now as far as installing the clutch you just need a clutch anignment tool.. and for the cable the rubber plug next to the brake booster is where the clutch cable goes..if you did'nt allready run you stereo amp cables and or you gauge lines threw it.. next to the hole tord the booster you will see a dimple thats where the screw goes to hold  the cable to the firewall..


Nick
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Bird351 on June 20, 2006, 08:27:40 PM
I think the 300 I6 uses the 0 oz. one.. and I've run across the occasional mention of internally-balanced stuff that used the 0 oz.
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Warbird9 on June 20, 2006, 10:55:39 PM
Quote from: Blown306Cougar
50oz.. 28oz is for old 302's and 351's..0"zero"is i think for pot smokers.. ;)

now as far as installing the clutch you just need a clutch anignment tool.. and for the cable the rubber plug next to the brake booster is where the clutch cable goes..if you did'nt allready run you stereo amp cables and or you gauge lines threw it.. next to the hole tord the booster you will see a dimple thats where the screw goes to hold  the cable to the firewall..


Nick


Thanks Nick. Summit's weird for making things difficult. I'm looking at the Ram billet steel flywheel, and they show all three balances for 86-95 5.0, 157 tooth. Page 296 of thier current catalog.
Actually, here's a link for the 50 oz.  balance: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=RAM%2D1525&view=32&N=115&orig=1 (http://"http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=RAM%2D1525&view=32&N=115&orig=1")

The other two are Ram-1527 and 1529.

I already had an idea about the actual installation part from some other posts, just wasn't sure about adjusting the clutch cable to drive it the first time.
Title: Clutch kit Q's
Post by: Warbird9 on June 24, 2006, 04:01:42 AM
Holy ! I got my Ram billet steel flywheel today, and holy shiznite is that thing heavy!:eek:  Summit has it at 25 lbs, but it feels heavier than that! Should try pumpin' some iron (or steel rather) with that thing. Should be buff in no time!:rollin: