I have decided to redo the exhaust on my TC with the stinger 3" dual pipes. I want to do something different with the tail pipes so I decided to use the mustang tail pipes so here comes the question, I know I will have to extend them to make them reach the bumper so does anyone know how much they will have to be extended? thanks for any and all help.
The wheel base is about 4-6 inches. Shouldnt be a whole lot. You could always get the ones for the lx, because they poked out I do belive.
I will be ordering them tomorrow from stinger performance. just trying to figure out what I am getting into
That's not correct.
Have stang pipes on mine and i had to extend them about 1 foot to get them to sit right.
do you have any pics of your install?
I used a stang 3" tailpipe on mine, and use a 12" long turndown, and it fits perfect. The turndown itself is gay, but it fits perfect.
The difference in the length needed for the tail pipes is not due to the wheel base difference, but the length of the rear overhang.
The ler and tailpipe hangers are actually in the same spot between the two platforms. Several times on my daily drivers I have taken stock take off Mustang tail pipes (SN-95) and they dropped right in to the stock hangers. Add a bit to the intermediate pipes and about 10-12" AFTER the rear hanger and you're good.
i have flowmaster ler to tailpipe kit w/ stainless tips laying in my room and i have jacked up my car and it only look like i woul have to extend it about 8 inches but i was eying it up and i have no idea what kit i have i boght it from a friend, never installed but he doesn't kow either. i could be mistaken
9 inches to foot! depending where u want the pipe to stick the actual pipe is nine inches shorter!
stinger said on their site that they will lengthen the pipes for you on request if its for a turbo coupe, id have them do it so its perfect.
Man that’s awesome. I went to mineke and asked for 2 ½ pipe they gave me 2 ¼ pre-bent stang pipe. And yes it was about a foot, I extended it at the end with 2 foot long chrome tips. And I’m not 100% happy.
I used Flowmaster 2 1/2" LX tailpipes on my car, if I remember correctly I needed about 11" on the ends of them for them to just clear the end of the bumper (used 8" long stainless tips & a short extension, looks pretty good)
can someone take some pics of their exhaust hangers for me please I am not sure if the ones on my car are the right ones.
do you have any pix of this, for that matter, does anybody have pix of their SS lx style tail pipes? i wanted to go this route, but as mensioned their too short and i want the entire thing to be SS and not see a seam. ATR used to sell them, but their dead now...
The hangers for the 87-88's and the fox stangs are different. Different styles and different placements.
(http://www.mustangevolution.com/gallery/data/518/medium/DCP_0999.JPG)
Thats my 3" next to a stock pipe. Now from my understanding, the stock tailpipe isnt factory, so the bends may not be proper, but the hangers are in the stock locations.
the mustang hangers look like the ones on my dads 83 tc. so everything is going to have to be welded up to make it work as far as hangers
when i did mine i had removed them from an lx stang. i dont know what brand of tail pipes they were but the bends were all wrong. i ended up cutting them up and micky mousing someauto zone exaust bends into them. they fit ok now but are a mess.....
these are the tail pipes I have decided on also I got my lers today :D
(http://www.stinger-performance.com/Pics/Tail2.jpg)
Flowmasters on a 2.3T?
[Nelson]HA HA![/Nelson]
Definitely not my first choice.
Chambered lers on a turbo motor is generally a no-no....
you'd be better off with a straite through design like a magnaflow or something. and the chambers i think slow down spool time because they dont flow as well. the guy who owned my TC before me had 40series on it and they wernt all that great.
if you havent installed em, u may be able to return them and get another type, and also, have you fitted up the tailpipes? id be interested in seeing how they look on the car. they are the stinger ones for tbirds rite?
stinger doesnt have them available for the tbirds yet so they are the 94-95 mustang tails. So flowmasters wont be better than the stock ler I have on it now? I guess what I need to know is if these lers will harm anything other than spool time. I dont think returning them is an option since I got them from ebay.
I'd also like to see how they look. I had mine made at Meineke-bad mistake. I had the entire exhaust put on there, but that was really the only "custom" thing they've done to it. Been there 4X already. Gotta take it back again this week. Found out from rattling that the right tailpipe is about to fall off. I'm going to tell them to keep their tailpipes and give me my $303. I've got the Hooker AeroChamber lers. Are they a no-no?!!?!?!
I've got the dual exhaust kit from Stinger...Great buy, but where I had my exhaust done was a nightmare, seriously!
i dont think its going to hurt anything, its just that the exhaust gases go through the chambers and theirs alot of turbulance, where as the straite through ones just flow way better.
I've heard that Flowmasters and other chambered lers sound really good on the turbo cars though. I've heard a couple cars with them (including stinger's old mustang) and I have to say I was impressed.
Anyway, one thing I forgot about the tailpipes- If you use mustang tailpipes, on the driver's side you will probably have to modify the Mustang hanger a bit (I had to cut mine, make it a little shorter, and reweld it). On the passenger side you have to cut the hanger off completely and put one on further down the pipe, because the one that's on there will hit the fuel filler neck. One nice thing is that there's a few threaded holes up in the frame to use just for this purpose, so it's not that hard to find a place to bolt a hanger to (I used universal hangers).
Anyway someone asked for a pic so here ya go. Sorry for the dirtyness, it was an older pic I already had on the computer. I have pictures of how I did the hangers too if anyone is interested.
the lers that I have are flowmaster 40's I dont see how they would restrict anything the way that they are made. (http://www.caraddons.com/images/performance/flowmaster_02.jpg)
the air runs into many "deflectors" and into many walls, which in a turbo car, is a no-no
i run a dynomax ultraflow, and i can see right htrough it
when I install the exhaust I will have them weld everything but the ler so I can change it out later on. I guess I should of researched alittle better but thats alright I have other uses for the flowmasters :D
If you want to change the lers out later, then you better get some of those band/strap clamps to hold them on with. If you put them on with regular clamps, be prepared for a struggle when you try to take them off. I wish I woulda done that as I went through 3 sets of lers before finding ones I really liked on my car.
well the exhaust is finished for the most part, tail pipes are on and it sounds awesome... not as loud as I thought it was going to be... but something hits when I go through a dip :dunno: I'll post pics later today when I can get some batteries for the cam.
*UPDATE* car runs like and I think it might be due to the flowmasters, I dont know if they plugged up or what the deal is but I make no power the boost shows on the guage but the car bogs when it comes into boost but if you work the throttle just right the car will launch for a second. I've checked fuel pressure changed fuel pumps to a walbro 255lph checked timing at the distributor and the timing belt and also checked the intercooler hoses. I dont know what else to do except for change the FPR again or try some different lers. any ideas? and I'd like to beat the ignorant person that welded my lers on..... :beatyoass:
Did you disconnect or even just loosen the exhaust prior to the lers? What happened?
Yeah drop that downpipe and see how she runs. Also would a glasspack be stright enough flow for a turbo app? I wonder what that would sound like? Any how sucks to here about the problems. Hope you get it figured out.
88 TC with Flowmasters.
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=429BEC9C-808E-4F2E-AFC4-CFEBE7A7526D
I havne noticed a big deal with them, no problems. Regardless of that, i will be switching back to dynomax next time.
the only other thing I can think of is maybe I left something stuffed in the intake the last time I had it apart. I think I'll be pulling the upper intake today and find out. cant hurt anything to look. also I was checking the tps with my volt meter and when I hooked it up the engine idled down and ran smooth and didnt hesitate when I reved it, maybe my 1 year old tps is bad? really sucks being so far away from all of my extra parts :( I'll try to pull those lers loose and see what happens
any updates? just curious to see how everything is going
havent had a chance to get under the car to take the lers loose but I have decided that its not the PCV. I'll see what I can come up with tomorrow if the weather is nice.
Unless someone stuffed a couple of rags in your lers, thats not the problem. Mabey your cat collapsed or its just plain plugged. And check the Intake if you think you may have left something in there!
I was thinking about the intake thing, I usually stuff something in there to keep me from dropping things down it.... ever since that one day... :shoothead dropped a v/c bolt and could figute out where it went, turned out it bounced off the v/c and down the intake and got stuck in #1 intake valve made me want to cry. if I get alittle time I'll pull the upper intake and fish down the lower with some wire and see what I find. btw I'm not running a cat. just straight 3" to the split.
Okay.... Even with flowmasters, Even if they are intalled backwards there shouldnt be enough backpressure to cause what you described. Have you pulled codes at all?
I pulled the upper intake today and didnt find anything left in there but I did find one of the wires on the TPS pulled out so i fixed the wire and reinstalled the upper intake and took it for a drive and now I have BOOST!!!!!!! I'm almost afraid of the car now.....
thank goodness! :grinno:
Glad to hear you got it running good!
About damm time. Glad you got it fixed. So now all that's left is to hammer down, boost up , and your gone. LOL Gotta love that 2.3t power.
lol its almost scary to have boost again after being used to the feeling of no boost
Ready to sell it now? ;)
j/k LOL
good to hear man, good to hear
lol for the right price :flip:
Got pics of the full install with exhaust tips?????It sounds nice on the clip with flow's. I was thinking of doing the same as you with Magnaflows.