now b4 this starts or gets out of hand everyone can belive what they want to belive.
now i have allways loved the space progran and think it would be bad ass to go up into space. i have allways like the stories about the moon missions and the Space race so to speak.. but recently i watched a video that was on fox a while ago bring up how we (man) could have never set foot on the moon. and some verry darn good points were brought up some that are a little maybe out their. but just to bring up some points.
doctored photos .
the suits wouldnt keep them safe.
problems with the lunar lander.
the video feed. (py)
no engine noise landing on the moon.
flags blowing around (no air)
some belive it was all done at area 51.
just seeing what everyone else thinks
hope the goventment dont tap my stuff for this lol.
Well, this is a very interesting topic. I saw a lot of those shows too.
As far as the flag blowing thing, I don't think it was moving because of wind. I think it was moving because it was attached to the pole. The slightest turn of the pole would make the flag look like it was moving a great distance.
There is no engine noise in space because it's a vaccum. With no air sound waves can't travel;)
Those videos are total :bs: i mean come on it was on FOX.
they have a piece of wire along the top and bottom of the flag, that's bent to give the appearance of being wind-blown...
Not to worry too much, i think the myth of "not landing on the moon" is kinda :bs:
Kinda like the theory about the UFO crash at Roswell....too many people with too many rumors that seem halfway credible..
Rest assured that the lunar landing actually did happen in 1969 :D
I'm not going to say wether I believe it or not, I just find it amusing, google search moon landing in google and read, try not to go crazy ;)
I have watched many videos and documentaries on this subject, i have come to the conclusion that we did infact go to the moon, however at the same time i also believe that some photos and videos where infact stagged. In one picture i have seen there was a rock about 7 inches in diameter, it had a number drawn onto it (i can not recall the exact number it may have been 6 or 16) the number itself was aprox. 3 inches in diamteter. People claim it is one of the props in that picture that was mistakenly placed with the number facing the camera. Why the goverment may have covered some of this up is beyond my knowledge but im sure there is a reason.
(http://www.apfn.org/images/moonlanding8.jpg)
(http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/Cshad.gif)
That one has always baffled me. After watching Apollo 13 a million times I was like wait a sec... If he was the first, then who the hell is hold the camera??? They must of tossed it out the window first. :D
how come we have never gone back? I also wonder why it was a choice in our path to space that we never return but instead decide its best to build a space station.
Actually having lived in FL and seen MANY of space shots and meeting Buzz Aldrin, I have come to the conclusion that we did indeed land on the moon. Anybody that says otherwise should be shot or brought to a mental home.
See:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/moontruth.asp
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/apollo_landings.html
http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/news/2001/news-moonlanding.asp
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/a11.step.html
One of my personal favorite reasons for why I am sure we went. You actualy think that the old U.S.S.R, especialy at that time, would actualy let us get away with a fake landing. They would have been all over us, as would China, and everyone else that was not fond of the U.S. at that time. Besides, I know there are also too many people out there that have expensive telescopes that can see the moons surface anyway.
turbo88 has a good point also, the government does do allot of stupid things, then covers it up thinking they make sense at the time, so that someone doesn't look stupid. You also have to remember that people are making money from this theory also.
How do you know that the Earth is actualy round by the way? You sure it's not oval? Scientists once thought the earth was flat. How do you actualy know that your not in a coma, and this is all a dream, and the fox car you drive was never made, and the intranet is just a way for the government to oversea your thoughts, or who you are that you think you are and you have actualy been brainwashed to believe what you do today, if there is such a thing as a day, or a night, or the Earth, or..........
Jus:D playin.
There were clusters of cameras and instuments attached to the lunar lander. I am assuming that it was one of these cameras that recorded the first steps of mankind on the moon.
I'm old and can't remember a lot of things these days but... I DO remember setting in front of the fokes NEW 23" COLOR TV console and watching LIVE B&W pictures from the moon... Yea the pictures were blurry, but the resoultion of small cameras was poor at best in '69. Good studio cameras were HUGE and heavy, every ounce and bit of space counted on lift off. Fifteen years later, I remember being amazed at the clarity of the small B&W RCA cameras used in the surveilance systems I installed in '84.
Yes it as all part of the plan to prove to the world we were better than Russia and could land a man on the moon... And we did it!!!
BTW much of the solid state techonology we used in the late '70s and early 80s was actually pionerred by NASA. If not for the space program, its possible we'd all be gleaming at our new computers with 286 processors about now...
Exactly. There is no way. They were in direct competition with us. They would have done everything within their power to prove that we faked it.
And jcassity, the reason we haven't been back? Nixon effectively killed the Apollo program in the early 70s and cut NASA's funding because the public was no longer interested in the space program and supporting it would not get anyone any votes. It has never recovered from this.
I hope that we get back to the moon by 2018 like they are planning now and that whoever goes videotapes Armstrong's footprints and the old equipment left up there and puts this stupid rumor to rest. Of course then there are people that will claim
that was faked too.
Indeed pepole are retarded. There will always be speculation that Us feet never touched the soil of the moon. This roumor probably originated in one of the above listed countrys Ussr or China because they were pissed that we made it there.
the will go to area 51 and setback up the old things and shoot that to us threw the t.v.. j/k inside me i still want to belive we did infact go to the moon. but a few real good things bug me that we didnt. 1. radiation. the radiation belt is so huge and the fack none of the men came down with cancer.
2.givin the history of the government in covering things up. especially then and all the conspiracy theories around that time. just makes one think. like one guy said "if you cant make it fake it"
and i dont belive that their is a teliscope on earth tht normal people have acsses to that can see the moons surfase like that to see rovers and left behind.
Your ignorance makes me weep for the future.
I could answer your questions...but why waste the effort; I doubt you'd believe me.
JeremyB
In-space Propulsion buttstuffyst
Jeremy, you have no idea how many times a day I could use that line at work. We went to the moon. We will one day (hopefully while I'm alive) see the red planet's soil on an earthman's shoe as well.
No doubt.
Until then, go to Disney World in Orlando and ride
Mission Space. Coolest. Ride. EVER.
Oh for the love of pete! You think that there is "too much radiation"? Have you done ANY actual research? They didn't stay out on the surface long enough, they were cooped up in the little lander! The spacesuits have layers upon layers of protection (from vacuum, extreme cold, and radiation! And the history of our government covering stuff up? Have you been living under a rock??!?!@? they couldn't cover up watergate, Monica's BJ, or Cheney shooting somebody, what in the heck makes you think they could successfully cover up a MOON LANDING?? And I don't care what you "think". There are MANY telescopes on earth that the average joe has access too that will see the landers. And as for that stupid movie you believe in, it was a freaking hoax made in the 1980's! The people that made it ADMITTED to it! Again, see:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/moontruth.asp
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/apollo_landings.html
http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/news/20...oonlanding.asp
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi.../a11.step.html
I can't believe how gullible kids are these days about conspiracies!!
well like i said b4 it just makes one think that is could of not happened. and also like i said b4 belive what you want.
oh and the whole area 51 thing on my second post was a joke for anyone who cares. but it's ok no grudge. best part of being a person you can say and think what you want. i love the space program and would love to one day go to space and see what it's like. but it's not gonna happen so. i deal with it
http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/Hubble.htm
http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/1999/14/
isn't the moon made of cheese? I was watching Tom & Jerry and Jerry was eating the moon and Tom was trying to stop him. I laughed.
I lauged my ass off reading that.
I still don't think we should sit back and be happy to believe everything the government tells us.
If we had landed ONCE on the moon MAYBE it could have been considered a hoax... But there were SIX landings... As already stated Russia and most of the world monitored transmissisons back from the moon. Would have been easy to tell if the signals were coming from another location...
Believe what you want, but in light of all the documentation about the landings, I basically consider anyone who doesn't believe they were real as a IDIOT....
Tell that to Mr. Aldrin. :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuYfZQBa5h0&search=buzz%20aldrin
If satallites can take a picture of the brand of cigerettes in hand from space, why can't we get shots of the moon then? There is just not a good solid reason for this to be a hoax. There is no real logic too the whole idea.
I know some of these shows can be pretty purswasive, and that's what they get paid to do. I'm also sure people are making allot of money by selling books and video's and so on in marketing this stuff also. Just think of the money people get paid for this. I'm sure some of these people are doing quite well now that this whole idea has been sold to people.
Ok. so maybe not the average Joe can see it, but i am sure the Russian and Chineese sattalites can see what's on the moon, and I'm pretty sure this would be broadcast on thier stuff also.
Prolly because the moon about 230,000 miles away from earth. Were as satellites' highest orbit from the earth is +22,000 miles. That's around a tenth of the distance.
Has anybody seen that IMAX 3D movie Magnificent Desolation? That was sweet.
To be honest, I thought that would of happened by now... but we JUST got a rover there so...... uuhhh why am I still up. Nite nite.
Because you wanted to have the last word. :p
This is not at you thunder, but in General, self included.
I am always astonished at the Human Race. We can be so intelligent sometimes, and then turnaround and say or due some of the dumbest things you will ever see. From the same person at that.
Has anyone noticed how big a push there is to deny everything, except nothing for what it is, to question the obvious, and to assume the worst. It's amazing to watch history repeat itself. Oh, and by the way, chicken little was right, the sky is falling............................................................................................................................................................................................................................just not today :D
That program is on right now on the National Geographic channel. Heh,heh. What a riot. The one dude on here said the CIA has made three attempts on his life because of what he "knows". Ha, the CIA wouldn't have missed three times. Hell, this is coming from a guy that lives in the desert running a cat sanctuary. What a hoot!
the cats are the key.. cause everyone knows that they CIA special agents are infused with alien DNA that is alergic to cats... and the metal roof keeps them from using the psychic satalites from reading his thoughts.
yeah i just watched that one the other nite. and it was a different one than i originally saw. i do belive now that man was on the moon. the cat guy said a few things that i didnt agree and to conflict stories with the other video. im sure there are things about the missions normal people will never know about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations
:rollin: I miss X-files...
hmmm...if you need funding for a gov't program, what do you need to get the funding started? Interest! Maybe it is a conspiracy, but different than you thought of. Since interest has been low and funding short, maybe it was just a very clever story plant to get people thinking and talking about and pursuing the space program again?