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Technical => Engine Tech => Topic started by: Haystack on April 12, 2006, 11:02:49 AM

Title: 86 5.0 running ruff.
Post by: Haystack on April 12, 2006, 11:02:49 AM
I gots a 86 sitting, and it is running really rough, about 7-10 mpg city, 14 max hiway. Thinking o2's, but I dont wanna spring for em till I know what the problem is.

I know its getting pleanty of gas, as a matter of fact, it leaves a black stain on the ground anywhere it is parked running. Jet black exhaust, and it isnt getting any better. I know the timing is off on it, but that isnt the whole problem. It did this before it sat for the last year, and before I pulled distributor out to test the one out of my crown vic in it.

But yeah, really really rich, jet black exaust and bad(horrable) mpg. It acts like my dads motor cycle does when you have the choke on after its all warmed up.
Title: 86 5.0 running ruff.
Post by: MasterBlaster on April 12, 2006, 11:19:48 AM
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I know the timing is off on it, but that isnt the whole problem.
Step 1: Fix the problems that you know about.
Title: 86 5.0 running ruff.
Post by: stuntmannick on April 12, 2006, 12:55:36 PM
Codes!
Title: 86 5.0 running ruff.
Post by: thunderjet302 on April 12, 2006, 01:53:42 PM
Leaky injectors maybe?
Title: 86 5.0 running ruff.
Post by: Haystack on April 12, 2006, 02:46:55 PM
I will pull codes and re time it, then I will let you know. Honestly I am thinking a stuck egr valve.
Title: 86 5.0 running ruff.
Post by: Tbird232ci on April 12, 2006, 04:48:13 PM
EGR valve wont cause it to run rich. Sounds like a fuel pressure regulator.
Title: 86 5.0 running ruff.
Post by: Haystack on April 12, 2006, 05:04:55 PM
FPR has already been changed.
Title: 86 5.0 running ruff.
Post by: Tbird232ci on April 12, 2006, 05:27:22 PM
Doesnt mean its not defective. Check it again.

Pull your spark plugs. See if they are all running pig rich, or just a few.
Title: 86 5.0 running ruff.
Post by: Haystack on April 12, 2006, 05:52:35 PM
I changed them out about a week ago, prolly 20,000 miles on them and they were black too. all 8 of them. I will pull a new one too.
Title: 86 5.0 running ruff.
Post by: cougrrr302 on April 13, 2006, 12:23:51 AM
Mine does the same thing, and leaves a huge black stain. Mine was looked over at a dealer before I bought it? HMMM??
Title: 86 5.0 running ruff.
Post by: Sick88Tbird on April 13, 2006, 06:19:54 AM
Most likely your O2's...don't be a cheap ass, replace them.  You will end up needing to either clean or replace your EGR now, I'm sure...it will be all full of carbon from running so rich.
Title: 86 5.0 running ruff.
Post by: cougrrr302 on April 14, 2006, 04:04:35 PM
Ok, someone educate me, Where the hell is the EGR at?