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Technical => Engine Tech => Topic started by: 88turbo on March 31, 2006, 12:26:34 AM

Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: 88turbo on March 31, 2006, 12:26:34 AM
the otherday the landlord asked me to park my car out on the street because he was tired of it leaking oil on his driveway, so I moved it out to the street car ran fine while I was doing this.  came back about 4 hours later to leave with the car and it wouldnt start all I could get from it was a slight try to start and then nothing.  so I pulled #1 plug and it was soaked with gas...  I pulled the rest and found that they were all soaked with gas.  I cleaned them and tied again and the same thing happened.  what could cause this?  are my injectors stuck or could there be something else telling them to dump fuel?  please help      car wont run at all  thanks
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: Red_LX on March 31, 2006, 01:35:24 AM
Sounds like the fuel pump must be stuck on, so it's draining the battery plus possibly building too much pressure that it's leaking past the injectors? Although that seems unlikely (the pressure part I mean)
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: 88turbo on March 31, 2006, 01:53:45 AM
the pump comes on and shuts off like normal, and you can bleed the fuel pressure off with the key on.  I'm about 100 miles from the car since it did this to me on the day we were moving I had to leave it at dad's house.
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: P71 on March 31, 2006, 03:04:22 AM
Your fuel is fine, you have no spark. Check to see if your coil is firing.
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: Chuck W on March 31, 2006, 08:59:13 AM
Sounds like you have a flaky TFI module or Hall Effect sensor (PIP) in the dist.  It might be a bad coil.  See if you are getting voltage to the coil as mentioned.  The WH/LB wire is the one to probe for voltage.  If no voltage and your FP is kicking on to prime the system there is probably an issue as mentioned.
Since the plugs are getting wet with fuel, the ECU is probably getting the signal from the dist/TFI (PIP) to fire the injectors, so it may be the coil.
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: 88turbo on March 31, 2006, 10:33:09 AM
didnt think to check the coil, the tfi module is the one that bolts to the side of the distributor right?
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: CougarSE on March 31, 2006, 10:38:26 AM
Quote from: Red_LX
Sounds like the fuel pump must be stuck on,

You know I would have never thought of this happening.  But the other day I got out of my car, keys in pocket and I could hear the pump humming.  Even crawled under it to check.  I checked the ignition switch and it was in the off postition completely.  I got back in put the key back in and started it and shut it off and it hasn't done it since. 
 
Funny.....
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 31, 2006, 10:40:37 AM
I'd be suspect of the fuel pressure regulator. The diaphrams can rupure suddleny dumping gas into the intake. This very thing happened on a '87 TC I had a few years back. A buddy had it doing a repaint, and brought it home. When he drove up, I was out in the street so we were checking  out the new paint. It was running just fine and started running rough and cut off, couldn't get it started had to push it into the driveway. A quick check revealed it was flooded, pulled the vac line to the reg and it was full of gas.
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: 88turbo on March 31, 2006, 10:41:12 AM
FPR is new but that doesnt mean that it couldnt be bad.  I'll check it out I think we are going up there this weekend.
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 31, 2006, 10:43:50 AM
Quote from: 88turbo
stupid fuel injection anyways...


I'll never go back to carbs and thats all I knew till I was in my mid 40s...
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 31, 2006, 10:58:13 AM
Quote from: CougarSE
You know I would have never thought of this happening.  But the other day I got out of my car, keys in pocket and I could hear the pump humming.  Even crawled under it to check.  I checked the ignition switch and it was in the off postition completely.  I got back in put the key back in and started it and shut it off and it hasn't done it since. 
 
Funny.....


Fuel pump relay stuck.... Its actually a fairly common problem... BUT it will NOT cause a flooded engine, has to be the regulator or a stuck injector.
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: Red_LX on March 31, 2006, 01:35:43 PM
I ruptured the diaphragm on the new BBK regulator I had put on my engine when I rebuilt it. It didn't flood the engine, but it wouldn't hold any fuel pressure at all, not even enough to start the car.

Actually, I never tried starting it just because it wouldn't hold any pressure, until I had switched out regulators.
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: gumby on April 01, 2006, 09:57:18 PM
also check the ECT.
left mine unplugged once and engine would not start due to over fueling.
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: 88turbo on April 01, 2006, 10:44:26 PM
ECT?  I know I'll be kicking myself lol
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: gumby on April 01, 2006, 10:48:10 PM
engine coolant temp
its in top side of the lower intake, directly under the upper.
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: 88turbo on April 19, 2006, 11:10:35 PM
well I havent checked the ECT but I put a new set of plugs in and she runs better but not as good as I'd like.  is there anything else that could cause them to fuel foul like they have been?  TPS out of adjustment maybe?
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: 88turbo on April 20, 2006, 07:42:03 PM
please help
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: 88turbo on April 27, 2006, 05:54:19 PM
bump...
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: Red_LX on April 28, 2006, 02:00:47 AM
Well, if the O2 sensor is bad, that would make it run rich...
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: CougarSE on April 28, 2006, 11:09:00 AM
KOEO/KOER  Your car probably doesn't even have a check engine light.....  It may be screaming at you for help..
Title: 2.3T problems
Post by: Chuck W on April 28, 2006, 11:19:35 AM
Just run codes.....