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Technical => Suspension/Steering => Topic started by: Billyf17 on February 25, 2006, 06:44:39 PM

Title: Abs
Post by: Billyf17 on February 25, 2006, 06:44:39 PM
Which foxes had ABS?  I know 87 and 88 TC's.....but is that it?  Just trying to better expand my knowledge of the fox family.
Title: Abs
Post by: Red_LX on February 25, 2006, 08:28:20 PM
Yep...that's it.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken I believe the '87 Turbo Coupes were the first Ford vehicles to have ABS.
Title: Abs
Post by: Ether947 on February 25, 2006, 09:39:36 PM
and Mark VII's.
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Post by: Billyf17 on February 25, 2006, 10:04:46 PM
Interesting...wonder why they would put all the gems on a dieing breed?  2.3T, 5 speed, Ride control (which by the way is only shadowed today by the automatic systems), ABS, rear discs, etc.

Hmm...I wonder if I could rig up a Cobra ABS system on my Coug...anyone know if the systems have a 'PCM Recognition protocal'?  Basically a way to see if the PCM is correct for ABS operation to be enabled.  If not...I'm very good at wiring....:evilgrin:
Title: Abs
Post by: shame302 on February 25, 2006, 10:15:41 PM
Svo?
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Post by: Red_LX on February 25, 2006, 10:49:12 PM
SVO's didn't have ABS.
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Post by: shame302 on February 26, 2006, 01:01:15 AM
Meh....
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Post by: Tbird232ci on February 26, 2006, 10:11:07 AM
the 87-88 TC's, and the 84-92 LSC's

Honestly, i look at ABS as a downfall if youre any sort of performance driver. Under hard braking, wether or not my tires are locking up, my ABS starts pumping because of the drastic change in speed in relation to what the ABS computer see's fitting.

Also, the ABS system is heavily integrated into the car, it ties into the ride control system, and takes signals from the EEC also.
Title: Abs
Post by: Haystack on February 26, 2006, 10:41:33 AM
I am gonna agree with shawn. Sometimes all this new computer spiffyness sucks.
Title: Abs
Post by: Red_LX on February 26, 2006, 01:37:14 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
Also, the ABS system is heavily integrated into the car, it ties into the ride control system, and takes signals from the EEC also.


It is? Hell, I didn't know that. My car didn't seem to mind when I pitched the whole abs setup.
Title: Abs
Post by: Tbird232ci on February 26, 2006, 02:29:02 PM
The ABS doesnt put any inputs to the EEC, it only takes VSS signals from the EEC, and i believe something else.

What makes it a PITA, is that your brake system and your ride control system are tied together in some ways. When you lay on the brakes, the front struts will firm up, and things of that nature. Its a very involved system.
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Post by: 30thtbird on February 26, 2006, 06:59:36 PM
Check out this link! http://www.corral.net/tech/handling/abs.html     
You might find what you are looking for.
Title: Abs
Post by: Red_LX on February 26, 2006, 08:35:18 PM
How can they "firm up" anymore when you've' already got it set on "firm" anyway? The PRC only has two settings...."firm" and "mushy."
Title: Abs
Post by: Tbird232ci on February 26, 2006, 10:07:14 PM
well...with us in our permanant firm ride (my switch never moves), it makes no difference, but in auto it does.