Why is it when I go to look at a stang they want 4X what its worth.
I have an 88 roller bird that I can't give away, no rust, new carpet... The list just goes on.
I go look at a roller mustang that is striped to nothing but its suspention and they want $4000.
Two identical cars (what they are equipted with) 88 thunderbird the guy is asking $1000 has rust but not bad. 88 Mustang there is rust through the floor the drivers seat about to fall out of the car and the guy wanted $4000.
Theres only one thing to say WTF!
I hate mustang guys that think they own a part of history and mark there price up that way. Sorry but an 88 stang is not a part of history unless its the last one on the road.
Why are you bitching???
Thats good that we can get these cars for cheap. Have you looked at replacement parts for them?? They are through the roof, so if you spend less on the car, then you have more money to spend(and will need) on replacement parts(if you can even get them).
Hell I just looked for corner lights and they want $125 a piece...for a 4 inch piece of plastic that cost about $1 to make. This same part for a stang would cost maybe $25, so be grateful that we get a break somewhere.
It's all owner's not just mustang. I am also into 3rd gen Camaro's, RX7's, Supra's, Daytona's etc and the owner's of these car's also think they are gold plated.
As soon as the seller think's he has something special the price increase's.
The worst part is when the seller can't get what he "thinks" the whole car is worth and then he stat's parting them out thinking he will make more money parting them.
Anyone see that 93 Cobra mustang get parted on stangnet a few year's back. the guy wanted like 20k for a 93 cobra with a salvage title. No one would buy it for that so he started parting it out.
kyle
Becasue I can't find a clean bird in a 300 mile radius of where I live. Mustangs on the other hand are every where. I would love to have another Bird, Cougar, or Mark. But I can't find one they are all either beat, trashed or rusted out. I think I own 2 of the cleanest fox bird and Cougars in the city of Peoria.
I get the same question from every mustang guy "why bother that will never be fast". To me its not about how fast but how clean the car is.
The Cougar as sprouted a case of rust holes in the body. This is why I'm looking for another fox body. But can't find one thats inexspencive or clean.
People just seem to think mustangs are worth more than they really should be. Even around here, I see very few mustangs but they all seem to pull a premium. That's how I ended up with my TC...I had REALLY wanted a Mustang 5.0, but I couldn't find one for less than $4000. I happened to see this TC in the paper for $1500, go to look at it, guy tells me he's had NO offers and he'll take $1250 and I buy it on the spot. So that worked out pretty good for me. I'd like to find a 5.0 Bird sometime down the road and I generally see them for about $1500...so I guess that's good for me too.
BTW I think the majority of Fox thunderbirds & Cougars are trashed. And I know that is because the majority of them are 3.8's, that people can pick up for less than a grand, so they use them as beaters until they fall apart.
I agree 100%, the reason that fox tbirds/cougars are in such bad condition is that people dont see them as sports cars or hot rods, but for what they are, daily drivers. And they sell for cheap so joe schmoe can buy one for 1000 and treat it like he bought it for 1000, and just drive it into the ground. Now if you buy a mint stang for 4000 you obviously were looking for a stang and will tend to take some better care of it, but more than likely still dog the piss out of it. These cars are not sports cars, they are family daily driver Im cheap and need a ride car. Now Turbo Coupes used to sell as sports cars, but now they too sell for 1000 and ppl someone with little cash buys on and drives it as a daily driver.
I am guilty of the above situation, as are probably 90% of this board. You are some young kid who has about 1000-1500 to spend on a car, or your parents give you a car, and you drive it until it falls apart. For a very few they start to like the car and fix it up instead of running it into the ground.
And of course mustangs are more desireable to most, parts are cheap and readily available. I dont particularly car for fox stangs because its almost too easy to modify them. But I cant argue with someone who wants to from an economical standpoint, the parts are very cheap and you can have a fairly cheap weekend racer. I just wish the aftermarket for our cars caught on, I could really use some body parts like molding, lights, trim pieces, and interior parts. It seems as though we will be confined to picking through junkyards in search of parts that are still in tact.
I sometimes see turbo coupes for a bit more....$2000 or more. I think I got a pretty good deal on mine because a lot of the ones I see for sale are a good bit more than I paid for mine.
personally, id just spend the extra money i would have on a stang too ship a decent one in from somewere else. take a look in the for sale section. their is a pretty nice turbo coupe for a reasonable price given all the work that went into it and its condition. awhile ago their was a 87-88 turbo coupe converted over to 5.0HO and T5 for a fair price as well...in nice shape. i know where their is one in GA for sale, 100% rust free body 5.0HO and T5 conversion. the guy wanted 3k befor, might take less now. local too me their was a 98%MINT 88 cougar with the V8. super clean but had just a cracked tail light lense from storage. only 8something k on the clock. the guy wanted 1200 for that. i would have taken it if i could get away with another car and thought for one second i could leave it stock....
the deals are out there. they might not be close but some of them are deffinetly worth considering shipping. id rather have a nice clean turbo coupe over even a mint fox mustang any day...
I somewhat agree with you there, man! Have you bought a dimmer switch and/or the headlight switch recently?
Your 88 may be a roller but it isn't a HO. TBirds V8's never came with a stick.
Most of them didnt come with a posi, kicker shocks or bucket seats. This doesnt help sales for the car or value. Most of the stock TBirds were considered a luxury 2 door. Besides the Mustang name sells itself and the TBird doesn't. Just look at the history between the two and you will see why these cars don't get the recognition. This is why we have this board. We are the only ones to keep these cars alive. Take for example Hawk's TBird. Many people wouldnt have looked twice at it when it was just a TC and now it sports a superchared V8 with custom paint, wheels and other goodies. Bring you cars up a level and maybe more people will notice how cool these foxbodies can be.
James
The brighter side is let’s remember the THUNDERBIRD has longer history then the Mustang. THUNDERBIRD debut in 1955 to compete with the Corvette and Ford decided to make the car bigger (personal luxury car). And then in 1964 Mustang picked up the smaller car hence pony car. (YES I KNOW ITS ALOT MORE INTALED THEN THAT) Back to the point THUNDERBIRDS do have great history and 25 years from now (year 2031) ill be in my mid 50's sitting at a car show fathers will come by and tell there kids back when I graduated H.S in 2006 and cars ran on gas and I had that car and I loved it and that 1988 THUNDERBIRD looks just like my first car I bought it for 800 dollars. Because everyone I now who had a THUNDERBIRD loved it even if it broke down on them.
I guess part of what I’m saying is we already have these cars and we are a small group
And it will be appreciated one day. A guy at a junk yard told me one time when I was looking for parts for a mustang and said well it’s not going on a stang but a THUNDERBIRD he said “that’s great nobody works a THUNDERBIRD everyone does Mustangs and all a Mustang is is a ME-TOO CAR. That was a complement all by itself.
If you looked at each car piece-by-piece, I think the T-Bird should be worth more, not less. Although both could be customized with high-performance parts, The T-Bird is roomier and better appointed than a Mustang (of ANY year) and for me the ride of a Bird shames the Mustang.
That being said, Mustangs are small sport cars and that nametag carries a lot of weight. Most people are lemmings at heart - they would follow each other off of a cliff in a heartbeat.
My message to all of you is - Like what you LIKE, not what everybody else likes. I personally still like the lines on my 87 Cougar even more than I do my 1999 Intrepid (and I DO love my Intrepid). We made our decision to stick with our 1980's models, so we need to live with both the good and the bad.