hey. im working on my car still. its a standard 87 thunderbird. im doing the works to it that i can afford cause im still not even in college. but having some problems. the bolt pattern is a 4x108 and not to many rims fit it that are bigger than 17s. i want to convert it to a 4x100 which is the standard 4 bolt pattern on hondas n such, so granted any rim will fit. if you know how to do this and what ill need and where to get it, it would be most helpful.
check my site it needs to be updated, but its getting there. when i finish the car itll be hot as hell and it wont look like a tbird n e more so itll turn heads, but gotta represent n leave the good ol tbird symbol on it :rice:
Nooooooo! Don't do that to a perfectly good bird :screwy: Why in the world would you want to put import rims on it :brick: . Besides import rims would not work because the offset and backspacing on import rims is way different from the tbird wheels. :slap:
the offset can be countered but i want to convert it to a 4x100 anyway
yeah he's right dont do that to a bird! i hate imported garbage.
yeah he's right dont do that to a bird! Imported garbage will look like shiznit.
i really dont car , cause i never even said import rims, but i just cant find n e rims i want that fit the 4x108 bolt pattern import or not, if you know how to convert it just let me know thanx
IMPORT RIMS LOL.. thats the last thing i would want to do!
A guy with a 350 Chevy under the hood of his T-bird, mocking a guy who apparently wants to put ricer rims on his T-bird, for making a T-bird look awful.. am I on drugs and just don't know it?
I need more beer..
What the hell is going on around here? Is another regular testing everyone?
convert to 5 lug and you will find lotsa rims available
Yes do the 5 lug swap, anything but a honda :toilet: :crazy: bolt pattern. If you do the 5 lug swap you can use anything that fits on a mustang. All you need is the 5 lug rotors, calipers, spindles for the front and new rear axles out back along with the assorted brake hardware.
Dont most ford cars use the same 5 bolt pattern? :brick:
i doubt you can convert to a 4x100 pattern at all without makeing coustome axle shafts and front rotors, so if its rims your after, go with the 5lug conversion off a 94-98 mustang, or front rotors and brakes off a mark7 and rear brakes and axle shafts off a 94-98 mustang. theirs millions of wheels for that pattern anyaway and you get the proper spaceing. this will be far easier than makeing coustome rotors and axle shafts. and as for import rims,.. i'v seen civics running 10s with weld drag lights and slicks and if im not mistaking most mustang guys run them as well. wheels are wheels no matter what the bolt pattern...
well i found wheel adapters that can change my bolt patern to the 4x100 any way for 130 so i think im just going to do that
You should be able to find thousands of wheels that fit. They make alot of different wheels for the 79-93 Mustang, which is the same pattern as the Tbird/Cougars. :ies:
Instead of looking for 4 x 108 try looking for 4 x 4.25.
Yes they are the same but one is metric and one is standard.
You will find alot more rims if you look for the 4 x 4.25.
Most use the 5X4.5 pattern, but the MN12, DEW98 (Lincoln LS, new T-Bird), and Taurus use 5X4.25. I don't know what the new Mustang uses, but since it's loosely based on the DEW98 I'd bet it's 5X4.25"
Ok that will make the front wheels stick out past the wheelwells but how are you going to defile the rear axles?
With the cost of custom making the rear axles I don't think it would be worth it. The five lug swap would be much easier and probably cheaper. If you can find 10" 5 lug rotors then you wont even need new spindles and calipers. My 84 crown vic had a 5x4.5 bolt pattern which is the same as the 94+ mustangs. But I can't remember how big the rotors were.
well im not looking to put old muscle rims on the car like mustang rims, cause personally i hate fords besides tbirds. i dont like lincolns or mercurys either and how can u be positive it will stick out past the front wheel well? the adapters are 1" to 1.3" in width and would it be cheaper to find 10" 5 lug rotors, and how much work does that require, so far this is the way ive been told to go cause its fast easy n relatively cheap. if its easy to replace rotors to a 5 lug rotor than ill do that, but the mustang bolt patern is a 5x114.3 still after 93
n do u mean to tell me that any rim that fits a 79-93 mustang bolt pattern will also fit my car? cause i was looking and sure there are more for mustangs than my car but i dont like chrome rims, and i dont like the way most of them look, if i wanted my car to look like a mustang id buy a mustang, and if the rims stick out, not that i want them too, but im not sure i understand the problem obviously i cant have them rub up against my car but how would i be able to tell if they will or not
The backspacing and bolt patterns of 79-93 mustangs are exaclty the same as 83-88 thunderbirds and cougars. So any rim that is designed to fit on a 79-93 mustang will also fit on a fox bird. I'm not positive but I think a 17x9 inch wheel is as big as you can fit on a fox body thunderbird without the wheels rubbing. You might be able to fit bigger but you will have to use a very low profile tire. As for the bolt pattern on 94+ mustangs, 114.3 centimeters = 4.5 inches. 2.54 centimeters is equal to 1 inch. The bolt pattern on fox body cars is 4 lug x 4.25 inches and the bolt pattern on 94+ mustangs is 5 lug x 4.5 inches. These are pics of 4 lug mustang rims on my 87 cougar. No modifications needed they bolt right up.
So you want to represent a car by TOTALLY changing it?
So you're clearly into imports. Dude if you choose one style, you should stick in it's species as far as mods go. I can't understand how one can hate Cougars and Mustangs and like thunderbirds when essentially they're all one in the same. sounds to me like you should get a civic and throw a t-bird emblem on it.
ur telling me to stick to one species and then u put up a pic of an 84 gs cougar that looks nothing like the cougar, yes i dont like most american cars so sorry. but im still not putting mustang rims on my car cause i dont like mastangs or mustang rims in general. putting mustang rims that have the symbol on them to me is as dumb as ppl who put turbo on their car and dont have a turbo. as for modifying my car if i wanted ur opinion id let u take the dick out of ur mouth and talk alright? i really dont care what u ppl think i should n shouldnt do, i just asked how to do it, i thank the ppl who gave help on how to do it but as to baXo, just keep the dick in ur mouth.
This is getting nasty.
Knock it off.