Are these needed? I'm in the middle of my 5-lug conversion and I need to know asap. Thanks.
well...they can be added later if your brakes vibrate...they look like they support them some what as well but you could probably get away with not using them...
hmmm... i suppose i better put forth an effort to get them on then. i've got a 10 hr road trip to make.
what's the best way to get the stock tc brackets off?
which brackets?
i cut them off with an angle grinder......if you unbolt them you might be able too bend them back and forth untill they break off then grind the welds smooth.
the antimoan brackets.
sweet. i'll give it go when i head out to the garage tomorrow. though i don't recall where the welds are...thanks john. :)
you probably should use them if you have them for the new brakes...the turbo coupes anti moan brackets are welded to the axle housing tube....
I didn't have to ditch my TC antimoan brackets. I got all my 5 lug stuff (brakes only) form a 96 stang. The j/y wouldn't let me have the backing plates(they said I had to buy the whole rearend for those-yeah right) They did let me compare my TC plates to the stang ones. Stang's were different thickness. I said wth and put it together with the TC plates. I have moser 33 splines with c-clip elims and brembo rotors and have to space the caliper out approx 1/4 inch which leaves plenty of bolt left to hold the caliper. Am i missing something here? I haven't reinstalled the rearend yet.
You're planning to use disc brakes with C-clip eliminators? That's pretty gutsy. :) There shouldn't have been enough of the axle shaft to even fit the C-clip eliminators on correctly. Did you remove the exciter ring from the axle shafts? If I were going to run C-clip eliminators, I'd be using 1999-2004 Mustang axle shafts since they're longer and will provide enough surface area for the eliminators to clamp to. But that's me.
well i ordered the mosers for a 96 mustang to get the proper length. there are no exciter rings on them. the elims were preinstalled and there seems to be plenty of engagement in the spool.
Ah, gotcha. So that's why you had enough length to install the eliminators. Normally C-clip eliminators and rear disc brakes are a big no-no to do in a stock configuration. Aftermarket parts make all the difference though.
i hate these brackets... i had to go buy a dremel tool because my angle grinder is too friggin big.
Out of curiousity, what 5 lug parts are you using for the swap? Is it possible to use your existing TC calipers with 94-98 mustang axles and 91-92 Lincoln Mark VII rotors? I read somewhere that this is the set-up Ford used on the 1993 Mustang Cobra R.
heh..that blows...give em' hell ;)
I am using 96 Mustang rear brakes and axles. From what I read on coolcats they don't interchange... i would of verified this but I have no patience to do so at the moment, as I still have the front to deal with.
The MK VII rotors are bigger than the TC rotors, so you can't use them with TC brakes.:D
Man, I was getting a little nervous there thinking what the heck did I put together?:hick: LOL. Only reason I went with elims was to be drag legal for 9 second passes. I know the rotor will keep the axle from coming out in the event of failure, but didn't think that would be sufficient for NHRA specs.
i preferr a moaner to a screamer...nyuck nyuck....
finally got them brackets off. now if my bearing puller would show up i can button up my rear end. if i had to do it all over again i will just mount the stang caliper bracket and drill into the TC bracket to cover the offset.
The 84-90 MArk VII Rotors are bigger, they are 11.3 or so in for 91 and 92 they changed the size to 10.5 with a similar hat design as the Turbo coupe rotor, only 5 lugs. The reason i was asking is because the rotors for the Cobra R have a 91 lincoln part number.
thought the 93 cobras ran tc stuff out back only diferance was axles i think. but could be wrong i know the front is a whole different animal
93 Cobra and 93 Cobra R are toatlly different animals brakewise.
The "std" Cobra used the TC stuff in the rear, including the axles (ths the odd offset on 93 Cobra wheels) and are 4-lug. The fronts were std GT (11" Fox) with a different rotor. The "hat" was taller...
The Cobra R used what was to become the Cobra brake package on the SN-95's.
Nope, the 93 cobra R used the SAME calipers and brackets as the standard cobra (or Turbo Coupe). The only differences were the 5 lug rotors and axles. Check out the SVT Cobra Recognition Guide book, in the back they have a list of Cobra R unique part #'s, the only part numbers given for the rear brakes were the rotors (a 91 lincoln part #) and axles.
hmm i just used 94-98 axles ,94-98 rear rotors with the diameter turned down .200 .used the t/c brackets ,caliper,pads,etc when i done my 87 shimmed the caliper brackat as needed to center the rotor in the bracket aprox 3/16th
I didn't think about doing it that way. You can safely turn down the diameter of a rotor? I used mustang calipers but the t/c brackets and had to shim out the caliper the same 3/16 of an inch. How much of a total track difference over stock is there? On wheel choices, I'm considering 15x9 with a 5.5 backspace (prostars).
yes, It is safe to turn down the diameter. I didnt notice a differance in track width i think most was in the hat depth of the rotor.I would probly go with a 15x10 with a 6.0 i have 15x8 w a 5.5 and there way in the wheel well. My slicks were mounted on a set of 15x8 with 4.5 rear spacing and filled the well good.
Good grief, 15x10 with 6.0...... I would like to run a 28x10.5 slick. Would that size with that wheel keep from rubbing the inner wheel well and fender lip(rolled of course)?
I dont think it would be an issue. I ran a 17x10.5 on the rear of mine for a while. If i get a chance today i will mesure from inside the tire to wheel well.
pulling this back up. sleeper t-bird 87 did you get a chance to measure the clearance from tire to well? pics would be great. I only ask because your'e about to get rid of the car. thanks