Technical => Engine Tech => Topic started by: daboss351 on January 21, 2006, 10:14:47 PM
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on January 21, 2006, 10:14:47 PM
im new to this site adn i figured this would be the best place to find out about the 88 thunderbird turbocoupe i am getting when i get my lisence. i want to put a alot into the motor i have found some parts i jsut wanna know from everyone here if they are worth it adn if it will get me up to my goal hp 350 and up. http://www.powerheads.com/products.html head, turbo, cam, valvetrain http://racerwalsh.zoovy.com/product/MAL4562101 distributer http://www.40bob.com/intakes.html ported lower intake and gutted upper http://racerwalsh.zoovy.com/product/RWA1235 throttle body http://racerwalsh.zoovy.com/product/RWA1309 header am i going to need more to push teh power i want, or will this do it, and i know its alot of cash but it's gonna be worth it to me
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Chuck W on January 21, 2006, 10:39:35 PM
The distrubutor is not even going to work with the EFI on your car....dump that from your list.
You don't need to spend $400+ on a TB and adapter....You can find a used one and adapt it for much less than that.
You don't "need" that header....There are other more cost effective options...see the 40bob site.
The head is ok and sure you can spend the cash on the hybrid turbo.
It's also going to take more than throwing parts at it to get power out of it. You will have to get a good tune on it, which you can't do w/o at least some sort of piggy-back or flashable ECU mod.
The injectors/fuel system will not be up to the task of 350 hp.
Personally I don't think a 16 yr old just getting a license needs 350+ hp....but that's just me.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on January 21, 2006, 10:50:08 PM
opps i forgot about that lol mental lasp teh dist, well its either 350 out of the chicken or just drive the 360hp 351w mustang im getting from him too (if he decised to give me it now or later) but they are both going to be my cars, adn i need monre info form poeple on parts i forgot to say that. i know that its gonna need new ingetors and stuff plus a tune, more info if anyones got it, o and i want that power got to blow my friends 93 sho off the road so hell respect the fourbanger
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: shame302 on January 21, 2006, 10:55:47 PM
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Personally I don't think a 16 yr old just getting a license needs 350+ hp....but that's just me.
i 2nd that. learn too drive the car first. turbo coupes require more attention too realy get them too work well. its not like driving a mustang. it takes practice too drive them well. they have more than enough power too be fun, and are finicky enough too win some/lose some soley on driving technique. 350 hp is going too signifigantly multiply that as specially being a 4cyl turbo car. thats a ton of power for a first car and a new license. not too mention its gonna cost you alot more money and will be alot more involved than you think. those mods will help but they arent going too get you there. should be able to burry the sho though. other than that all i can realy say is do some research... my 2c
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on January 21, 2006, 11:02:44 PM
yea i know i never said i wanted them done now lol i jsut ment in teh long run, but not 350 o well still the sho has 220 hp stock i got 190 but i know the bird is lighter. any ideas on first mod i should do though cause the motor si being rebuilt after my dad drives it for awhile shes getting up there in miles
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Red_LX on January 21, 2006, 11:06:16 PM
How is a Thunderbird lighter than a SHO?
Anyway, don't get too attached to that Mustang cuz you'll probably wreck it. If I woulda had anything with any kind of power when I was 16, it definitely wouldn't have lasted very long. As it was I still didn't get a car til I was a senior, it was a '90 2.3L Mustang (with a whole 88 hp) and I still did some really stupid stuff and messed it up a couple times.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on January 21, 2006, 11:09:23 PM
its a four door taurus with a v6 and its full of luguery (i can't spell it) stuff so i assumed it was lighter. and I AM NOT DRIVING that stang till i am well off as far as driving goes cause sehs straight as an arrow, adn not a spot of rust shes a 100% almost all year garaged car. so yea i don't wnana **** up my baby hell no
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: 88turbo on January 22, 2006, 12:03:37 AM
Quote from: Chuck W
Personally I don't think a 16 yr old just getting a license needs 350+ hp....but that's just me.
I 3rd this learn to drive before you end up wasting a TC
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on January 22, 2006, 12:21:54 AM
spend some cash in a good 3" exhaust with a good ler. grab you a K&N cone filter and a boost contoler and enjoy having the sho for dinner.
http://www.boostvalve.com
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: CougarSE on January 22, 2006, 01:25:35 AM
Quote from: daboss351
its a four door taurus with a v6 and its full of luguery (i can't spell it)
Dude you can't spell shiznit! :flip:
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Red_LX on January 22, 2006, 01:53:41 AM
Quote from: CougarSE
Dude you can't spell shiznit! :flip:
I second that.:flame:
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Haystack on January 22, 2006, 06:19:24 AM
just to piss off the 4 banger guys, why not just throw a bigger v-8 in it? like a 460. then 500hp is easy, and it will kill anything on the road as long as its in a straight line. Its kinda cool to watch you speedo go one way and your gas go the other.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Tbird232ci on January 22, 2006, 10:02:45 AM
Right now dude, id focus on getting a good tune up on it.
Buy some Motorcraft plug wires, which can be had pretty cheaply from RockAuto.com, get some Autolite 764 plug wires, grab a motorcraft cap and rotor, put a new fuel filter in it, run a few tanks of good gas through it (93 octane is a must if you want the car to go fast), use a Motorcraft oil filter (cheap and very effective) and get some good oil in it.
From there, do some basic mods, 3" exhaust with some straight through lers, a K&N cone filter, disconnect your knock sensor, advance the timing a little bit, and turn you boost up to 18psi of boost or so, and your car will suprise you. You never did mention if your car was an automatic or a 5-speed.
Also, never NEVER rely on horsepower numbers when you want to race, there are too many variables, and too many other things to win/lose a race. Horsepower numbers are only there to sell cars.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Red_LX on January 22, 2006, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: Haystack
just to piss off the 4 banger guys, why not just throw a bigger v-8 in it? like a 460. then 500hp is easy, and it will kill anything on the road as long as its in a straight line. Its kinda cool to watch you speedo go one way and your gas go the other.
Or put a 3.8 in it and it'll be nice and slow and safe! :flip:
Actually I don't think I would do a 460 swap anyway. For a street car, the extra cubes (and weight) aren't really worth it considering how many parts are available for a 351.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: CougarSE on January 22, 2006, 02:30:41 PM
Put a 350 in it.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on January 22, 2006, 06:19:43 PM
number i don't nt an e, no way in **** would i use chevy motor, and i never ment it that the car was gonna get everything right away im just planing it out, and i know i can't spell im only 14 it i don't know everything. some exasht and intake, and as far as that boost controler thats worth it good, cause friends sho is ognna be cai, and exasht. so i wanan show him that a four banger is not a peice of shiznit, and if i wanted a 8 id prob use a 302 if i wanna see my speedo go up gas go down shiznit ill drive the scrat, i want teh fourbanger so i don't see that. thanks for the impute guys
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on January 22, 2006, 06:21:26 PM
its a 5 speed but its gonna need a new trasn soon 3rd slips, any ideas as far as that goes, cause i want something good. thast the first thing gonna be done to the car. after it gets painted we jsut rebuild the car, it was rotting away but we saved it
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: CougarSE on January 22, 2006, 06:56:43 PM
Quote from: daboss351
number i don't nt an e, no way in **** would i use chevy motor, and i never ment it that the car was gonna get everything right away im just planing it out, and i know i can't spell im only 14 it i don't know everything. some exasht and intake, and as far as that boost controler thats worth it good, cause friends sho is ognna be cai, and exasht. so i wanan show him that a four banger is not a peice of shiznit, and if i wanted a 8 id prob use a 302 if i wanna see my speedo go up gas go down shiznit ill drive the scrat, i want teh fourbanger so i don't see that. thanks for the impute guys
We are all dumber from reading this. I feel stupid now.
Oh in response to your being 14 and not being able to spell, when I was 14 I could type 80 words a minute and not misspell one.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Tbird232ci on January 22, 2006, 07:03:18 PM
Quote from: daboss351
its a 5 speed but its gonna need a new trasn soon 3rd slips, any ideas as far as that goes, cause i want something good. thast the first thing gonna be done to the car. after it gets painted we jsut rebuild the car, it was rotting away but we saved it
You dont need a transmission, you need a clutch.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Blackout on January 22, 2006, 07:06:12 PM
Everything you need to know about TCs. This is a good board as well, but Nato is turbo coupe specific. You need to use the search function as much as possible over there, and then ask the question if you cant get the answer that way. All of the topics you have mentioned have been beaten to death over there, so i doubt your questions will go unanswered. And.....Welcome to the board....and I have to agree, you cant spell shiznit LOL. Seems like we have our very own Brian over here now LOL
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Red_LX on January 23, 2006, 12:18:38 AM
dude...slow down a little when you type. It'll make things a hell of a lot easier to understand.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Bane on January 23, 2006, 09:13:07 AM
he only got 360hp from a 351W? seems very low for what they are capable of, unless a bunch of stock parts were used. Could of got that out of the 302 and not have had to worry about alot of shiznit.
but I 4th or 5th the not needing that much power for a new driver...easy way to become a statistic.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: 5.0willgo on January 23, 2006, 04:48:37 PM
I agree with everyone else. You should not have that much power as a beginner. I got my car when I was 16 and I heard things that I shouldn't have had a V8 with power, if you want to call 155HP a powerful V8. I managed just fine and never raced anyone either. To go through the expense of building up your car just so you can race your friend is a stupid idea.
Do yourself a favor bud, stay in school, take some typing classes and learn sentence structure. Get your car together and enjoy it. If you go the route of 350HP, don't come here crying when you wrap it around a tree.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Tbird232ci on January 23, 2006, 06:38:02 PM
I dont know about you guys, but i learned to drive in higher powered vehicles, and i havnt been in a single accident. Hell, i was also able to find trouble in my 3.8L car.
The car doesnt make the difference, its the person driving.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: 5.0willgo on January 23, 2006, 07:10:47 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
The car doesnt make the difference, its the person driving.
I agree with that statement 110%. You can get in trouble in any car if you're not careful, hell even sometimes when you are careful you can find trouble.
He wants a high powered car for the purpose of racing though. If my son wanted a high powered car so he could race anything including a moron at school, he wouldn't get it.
Sorry, I just get the impression that he's coming on here like "yo wat up, I wat teh fastest car ta kill my buddies sho"
Considering he hasn't even driven the car stock yet, I think it's a bad idea. I was driving for 4 months (fully licensed) before I got my Cougar. I had nothing to drive but my mom's 4-door Malibu. I proved my responsibility before I got the car.
I'm not saying he is or isn't responsible since I don't even know him. It's just his presentation that raises a flag for me.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Red_LX on January 23, 2006, 09:17:36 PM
Yeah I agree...you can get into trouble in any vehicle. I managed to find plenty in my 88 hp Mustang. A higher powered vehicle just helps you get into trouble that much quicker, and hurt yourself worse in the process. Young males don't use good judgment, I know that from experience :rolleyes:
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: 302Fairmont on January 23, 2006, 09:24:05 PM
I know that firsthand too -
My first running car was a dog but that didnt stop me from getting tickets, burning the tires bald and eventually slamming into two trucks. Actually, It being so slow just made drive the balls out of it, as hard as I could, all the time. I eventually learned but it was a pretty hard road.
1.9 TBI Cavalier, 3 speed auto.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on January 27, 2006, 03:54:13 PM
i know i can't spell i suck at typing on this stupid computer, adn i don't want the fasteest car in the world, plus did i say i was gonna street race him hell no we are doing it heads up at the drag strip. and i know i don't need gobs of power but shiznit i wanna be able to floor it from a stop and broil the shiznit out the tires when i wanna and still be able to drive it and also, the 351w is stock except for a mild luinati cam, and it was balenced and blueprinted. but as far as the stang goes, the 351w my dad is getting it bored out to a 408 and a paxton novi 1200 supercharger. the scrats goona be a strip car, and a play toy. i know i did need alot but hes giveing me the car what am i supose to do say no? hell no then id end up in like what my bros got a 95 escort, which will barly light up ONE tire lol. and shiznit im not a moron i love my cars, and wouldn't do nothing liek street race or anythat shiznit, cause then ur just asking to get in a wreak or kill urself. which i don't want to do. i slowed down so i think my spelling should be better in this one
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: shorangerbird on January 27, 2006, 04:17:33 PM
Personally I don't think a 16 yr old just getting a license needs 350+ hp....but that's just me.[/QUOTE]
-350hp + 16yr old + bad spleling = bad idea 4 a spelling bee loser... :stupid:
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on January 27, 2006, 04:20:37 PM
peopel are not understanding what i eman i don't want 350 hp right away i have 2 2.3 one i will drive stock the other will be built up i want to know stuff to do to it
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: 302Fairmont on January 27, 2006, 04:22:11 PM
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-350hp + 16yr old + bad spleling = bad idea 4 a spelling bee loser... :stupid:
the first time i read that, i saw "350hp + 16r yr old + bad spleling = bad idea 4 spilling a beer..."
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: CougarSE on January 27, 2006, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: shorangerbird
Personally I don't think a 16 yr old just getting a license needs 350+ hp....but that's just me.
-350hp + 16yr old + bad spleling = bad idea 4 a spelling bee loser... :stupid:[/quote]
To bad you spelled that wrong.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on February 04, 2006, 03:00:01 PM
ok i re did what im plaing for the car. this is the main plan. I have 2 2.3 turbo coupe motors. i will keep one on a stand to do a build up on it, and just do some bolt on mods to the car, and some small mods to the motor in it, so i don't kill myself best parts to use in the car would be what,and i relize none of u think i spell good or, need 350+ hp i understand this now if u could help me that would be nice thank u
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on February 04, 2006, 03:15:01 PM
Quote from: daboss351
ok i re did what im plaing for the car. this is the main plan. I have 2 2.3 turbo coupe motors. i will keep one on a stand to do a build up on it, and just do some bolt on mods to the car, and some small mods to the motor in it, so i don't kill myself best parts to use in the car would be what,and i relize none of u think i spell good or, need 350+ hp i understand this now if u could help me that would be nice thank u
I made a suggestion earlier in the thread.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on February 04, 2006, 03:38:34 PM
boost controller 3 inch exhaust, and cone filter, as far as a in fender cai, gutted intake, throttle body and stuff liek that whast wroth it, cause i want to do a full intake and full exhaust
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Tbird232ci on February 04, 2006, 03:45:39 PM
For now, just do a 3" exhaust, boost controller, put a cone filter on the vane air meter, and advance your timing a little bit. With 18psi, the car can be a handful with those mild of mods, it will be good for you to learn the car, and all of those mods will work with any other things you plan on doing.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on February 04, 2006, 04:04:11 PM
everyone though i was plaing a build up on the motor in the car at the begining i want a mild performance mods in the car, and a total build up on the other motor. i made up a order for turbo bob that i want gutted upper lower intakeand a 65mm throttle body, a header, a down pipe, and some subframconectors plus lers, came 2 747.99 bucks about. better start saving now, and selling off my other toys, fourwheeler, gas scooter, snowmobile, tractor,and my 1973 honda cl350 k5 that i restored. lol i got alot of toys.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on February 04, 2006, 05:00:14 PM
Get you a holset,Header,rotated/gutted intake,Ported head,Big valves,A237 camshaft,Big external wastegate, 3" exhaust, 4.10/4.56 gear, a 2 step box,a n20 kit, and a good mls head gasket and supporting fuel mods/Tuner to get rid of the vam.get a powerstroke intercooler a good blow off valve ,Set the boost on kill 28-30 psi on race gas spray 50-75 shot on that.swap in a C-4 auto with a 2,800-4,000 stall converter It will be more then you will ever want out of a 4 cyl.
Or you could go the simple route and enjoy the car.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: DakotaEpic on February 04, 2006, 06:23:58 PM
Quote from: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87
Get you a holset,Header,rotated/gutted intake,Ported head,Big valves,A237 camshaft,Big external wastegate, 3" exhaust, 4.10/4.56 gear, a 2 step box,a n20 kit, and a good mls head gasket and supporting fuel mods/Tuner to get rid of the vam.get a powerstroke intercooler a good blow off valve ,Set the boost on kill 28-30 psi on race gas spray 50-75 shot on that.swap in a C-4 auto with a 2,800-4,000 stall converter It will be more then you will ever want out of a 4 cyl. Or you could go the simple route and enjoy the car.
I don't think the point was to help the kid kill himself. Anyhow. I'm surprised that no-one has brought this up, but just re-read what you type and fix your mistakes. We won't hold it against you if you can't spell a word the first time around, but repeatedly typing teh and wat is just a sign of ignorance. I don't type everything perfect the first time around, but I spellcheck it. The way you type on these forums is a direct reflection of your persona.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on February 04, 2006, 06:51:45 PM
Quote from: DakotaEpic
I don't think the point was to help the kid kill himself.
Thats why my first suggestion was this.
spend some cash in a good 3" exhaust with a good ler. grab you a K&N cone filter and a boost contoler and enjoy having the sho for dinner.
http://www.boostvalve.com
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on February 04, 2006, 09:14:54 PM
ok well im not gonna spend 50k on this car lol if i was gonna go that much id put it in the 66 stang im gettign too instead of it, but yea im just gonna do the exhaust, a cai, intake, header, throttle body, a tune, and maybe a t3/t4 hybrid and be done with the power mods to that motor and keep the other one to do once i go to wyotech for custom engine building and chassi fab. thasnk for the imput the ones who are actually serious about helping me. now good place to get a mandrel bent 3 inch exhaust would be where thats the last part i can not locate, o and i forgot i would also like to update the 5 speed it has best one to get. i wanan keep the stick i love driving standards. which the stang and the thunderchicken are
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on February 04, 2006, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: daboss351
ok well im not gonna spend 50k on this car lol if i was gonna go that much id put it in the 66 stang im gettign too instead of it, but yea im just gonna do the exhaust, a cai, intake, header, throttle body, a tune, and maybe a t3/t4 hybrid and be done with the power mods to that motor and keep the other one to do once i go to wyotech for custom engine building and chassi fab. thasnk for the imput the ones who are actually serious about helping me. now good place to get a mandrel bent 3 inch exhaust would be where thats the last part i can not locate, o and i forgot i would also like to update the 5 speed it has best one to get. i wanan keep the stick i love driving standards. which the stang and the thunderchicken are
50k :eek:
i only had about 1,100 in mine tops
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on February 04, 2006, 11:01:50 PM
lol ok i exagerated and i ment for all the stuff u said and if u put all that stuff in urs for that much tell me where lol
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on February 04, 2006, 11:52:00 PM
Quote from: daboss351
lol ok i exagerated and i ment for all the stuff u said and if u put all that stuff in urs for that much tell me where lol
I searched for deals, Installed it all myself , Built the trans myself , fabricated everything i needed that wasnt avalible .
It can be done you just have to look for deals. And you can sell stock parts to compensate the cost some.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on February 05, 2006, 11:37:08 AM
ok this is my plan now, my dad is going to be bringing me the other lower mile 2.3 and im gonna slowly build it up in my basp00get. strip it clean get it honed, and decked, then the rotating assembly all new, get it blaenced and blueprnited then start the detail work on the block, and get my ass into a job so i can start ordering parts for it this way hopefully by the time i get my license 2 years ish, it will be all ready to drop in once i drive it the way it is for awhile then ill have another one to tinker on. not a bad plan
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: DreWRoolZ on February 06, 2006, 04:13:47 PM
I wish I could get a 351W Mustang. Guess I gotta stick with my 140hp 3.8 bummmmer...
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: CougarSE on February 06, 2006, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: daboss351
and get my ass into a job so i can start ordering parts for it this way hopefully by the time i get my license 2 years ish,
Dude you need to take another english class. Forget the job!
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: DreWRoolZ on February 06, 2006, 04:49:00 PM
Quote from: CougarSE
Dude you need to take another english class. Forget the job!
I second that.:rollin:
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on February 11, 2006, 07:30:34 PM
i don't type proper sentences on the computer im to lazy
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: V8Demon on February 11, 2006, 07:43:43 PM
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im to lazy
Will you be too lazy to do the upkeep on this ubercar your planning? Let alone start it?
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on February 11, 2006, 07:56:13 PM
hell no when it comes to my stuff i am like obssesed with keeping it all right. i keep everythign nice, and my thunderchicken is gonna be no different
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on February 11, 2006, 08:04:23 PM
lol what u guys think of this monster motor
http://www.bossninehemi.com/index.htm if i ever built something big power all custom theres my motor
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: sonicbluebird on February 14, 2006, 05:22:42 PM
Personally, I'd go with the stock t-bird until you wreck it, then get a pos with a decent motor, like an 80's caprice 350, blow that thing up and then start playing around with the mustang or get something like an 80's mustang so you can learn how to tune properly. My first car was a 93 integra, great car, good for street racing, safe for getting airborne and crashing at 80mph in. That car was 130 something horse and the only mod I did was the ricey "powered by Acura" seat belt covers and that car was fast enough. A turbo motor is a little different than an n/a motor and I would first get used to it, and then move on either to another motor if speed is you passion or a few simple boltons. I had great plans for my first car, but the money went into stuff like oil changes, tires, spark plugs and all sorts of maintainence . And making a car fast doesn't consist of just the motor, you have to consider shocks, struts, rear gears, tires and wheels, weigh and all kinds of other things that will be affected by modifying you vehicle, especially one with higher miles.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: daboss351 on February 15, 2006, 08:16:09 AM
hell no im not wreaking it, and im not buying no dman import pos, and only chevy id buy is a 69 camaro, or a 69 chevelle, so screw that, i bleed ford blue thast all im driveing as my main car
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: sonicbluebird on February 17, 2006, 07:47:01 AM
Sometimes money is an issue, and a 1969 anything is out of most peoples financial range, especially when you are a looking for a cheap first car. If I had a choice, I would have went with a saleen S7 as my first car, but I am piss poor and the only thing my parents were willing to give me was a nice 87 voyager, gray with red interior. I took option B; I saved up for two years and got a cheap car I didn't mind wrecking that got good gas mileage. And just b/c you dont get in an accident with someone or something doesn't mean someone else won't get into one with you. Most people out there suck at driving and shiznit happens, examples; deer, drunk drivers, stupid kids in civics, old ladies in crown vics, and other random acts of God.
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: Funky Cricket on February 17, 2006, 10:43:45 AM
get a car you want to work on, make nice, get a 300 dollar civic, geo or cavalier, drive the beater everyday to school, work, and to the gf's. on nice summer days, drive the car you are working on, take it to shows, or to cruise in. you will learn a ton about the car you like the most, and it won't get ruined cause some jack ass girl at school pulled out in front of you talking on her cell phone
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: CougarSE on February 17, 2006, 03:27:56 PM
For Gods Sake! Somebody kill this thread already. We are all tired of it!
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: 87-black-tc on March 04, 2006, 02:43:17 AM
i 4th the learn to drive i got my car like 2 months ago and just in the past 2 weeks did exhaust work and an intake it sounds sick for one, so get the hang of the car then do sum work
Title: thunderbird turbocoupe
Post by: CougarSE on March 04, 2006, 10:00:18 AM
Quote from: 87-black-tc
i 4th the learn to drive i got my car like 2 months ago and just in the past 2 weeks did exhaust work and an intake it sounds sick for one, so get the hang of the car then do sum work
you for bringing this back up the list.......:flip: