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Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: cougarpower51 on January 02, 2006, 09:17:04 PM
January 2007 will mark the return of the legendary Duesenberg brand in the United States, with the launch of a new four-seater called the Torpedo Coupe. The company says the automobile will be built around “revolutionary new power plant” known as the CEM. The engine is air-cooled and self lubricating, forced-air inducted (supercharged), 12 cylinder, double ended, ported, multi-fueled, four-stroke engine with a calculated 70 MPG :flip: and 300 horsepower from an economical 100 pound package measuring 18 inches in diameter and 24 inches in length. Duesenberg last made cars in 1937. At the time, its vehicles were among the fastest on the road. The Leftlane Perspective: If Duesenberg can return from a 70 year hiatus and build one of the most revolutionary cars on the road, it will be a proud day for America’s auto industry.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Ether947 on January 02, 2006, 09:32:47 PM
links? pics? i must read/see this for myself.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Bird351 on January 02, 2006, 09:38:54 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if gasoline/electric hybrids don't last too long. From what I've read, there are people working very hard on making diesels catch up emissions-wise to gas engines. Combine a small TDI diesel with hybrid tech.. that I'd like to see.

Modern railroad engines are diesel/electrics, so it's not like this is exactly a new idea.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: cougarpower51 on January 02, 2006, 09:41:56 PM
I found the info here http://www.leftlanenews.com/2005/12/21/duesenberg-brand-to-return-with-a-bang/
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Haystack on January 02, 2006, 09:59:33 PM
apperantly as early as next year
(http://duesenbergcustomcoach.com/images/Duesenbergviews2.jpg)
http://duesenbergcustomcoach.com/torpedocoupe.html
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Thunder Chicken on January 02, 2006, 10:07:16 PM
Call me a skeptic, but a 12-cylinder, 300-horse, supercharged, self-lubricating engine that is two feet long and 18" wide and weighs 100 pounds and achieves 70MPG? I'll believe it when I see it...
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: slamedcat on January 02, 2006, 10:09:57 PM
Yes but what no one has metoined that the cars built in 1937 and earlier were also some of the most exspenice on the road. So in that case whats the sticker on the new one?
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 02, 2006, 11:28:40 PM
Its a german car, eh its ulgy already 2 things against it. And there are already things much better than a hybrid diesel try Bio diesel.

http://biodiesel.org/
http://Biodieselnow.com
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Bird351 on January 02, 2006, 11:42:09 PM
Biodiesel is not mutually exclusive with hybrid use.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 03, 2006, 12:20:20 AM
I know this i doubt volkswagon had hybrids back in 87 like my brothers experiment car. A diesel Jetta.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: MDJ1281 on January 03, 2006, 12:27:40 AM
I kinda like the way it looks.

If it is true time will tell.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Bird351 on January 03, 2006, 12:30:01 AM
Quote from: 20th anny 5.o
I know this i doubt volkswagon had hybrids back in 87 like my brothers experiment car. A diesel Jetta.


I am trying to make sense of this reply..
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 03, 2006, 12:38:55 AM
"Biodiesel is not mutually exclusive with hybrid use"
which i interpret as Bio diesel is not only for hybrid use to which my responce is

"I know this i doubt volkswagon had hybrids back in 87 like my brothers experiment car. A diesel Jetta."

Meaning my brother used to have a diesel jetta (which he ran biodiesel in), which he had to get rid of because the clutch parts were very hard to find.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Bird351 on January 03, 2006, 12:42:06 AM
"Mutually exclusive" means you can't use one with the other. You can use biodiesel in a regular diesel, (there might be exceptions) you could have a hybrid diesel, and I'm sure you could run a hybrid diesel on biodiesel if they made said hybrid diesel. In fact, I'm sure many people would encourage such a combination.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: MDJ1281 on January 03, 2006, 01:14:21 AM
I believe Mutually exclusive means one only works with the other, ie mutually exclusive relationship

compatable is probably the word, or word type, you were looking for.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Bird351 on January 03, 2006, 01:21:18 AM
1 entry found for mutually exclusive.

mutually exclusive

adj 1: unable to be both true at the same time [syn: contradictory] 2: necessitating a choice between mutually exclusive possibilities; "`either' and `or' in `either this or that'" [syn: alternative]
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 03, 2006, 01:21:19 AM
Websters definition

Main Entry: mutually exclusive
Function: adjective
: being related such that each excludes or precludes the other
; also : INCOMPATIBLE

So i just make myself look like an ass again assuming i know what a word means wont be the last time.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Bird351 on January 03, 2006, 01:37:34 AM
So in other words, I was right. For teh win.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: oldraven on January 04, 2006, 12:24:57 PM
They've been talking about this car for years. The release date gets pushed back more often than the Veyron, and no new sketches have been released since.

Oh, and Duesenberg is an American company. Or at least they were. Who knows who owns them now.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Bird351 on January 04, 2006, 12:27:33 PM
So in other words, it'll come out just after Duke Nukem Forever..? :p
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 04, 2006, 01:01:02 PM
Was duke Nukem Forever susposted to be a doomish type adaptation of duke?
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Bird351 on January 04, 2006, 01:04:45 PM
Gah.. go look it up.. it's only been discussed for like eight or nine years now.. heh.
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 04, 2006, 01:20:27 PM
Heh i remeber blake stone i cant believe they are still selling all that old software.  you Bird 351 now you have me waiting for something that'll never come out.:raspberry


[Edit]
Cant forget Wolfenstien 3d either man good times. I want my BBS's back!!!
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Bird351 on January 04, 2006, 01:32:02 PM
Quote from: 20th anny 5.o
I want my BBS's back!!!


I don't.

Started talking again to a few of the people from back in my BBS days.. and I don't know if it's just the passage of time, all the bad encounters with idiots on places I've been since then lowering my tolerance for such , or my apparent permanent worsening of attitude after going through the first hurricane.. but the people I didn't like before, I dislike even more now. While I'm not ready to throw them out in front of a moving bus or anything, I sure wouldn't mind being there to take pics of it as it happened.. or, you know, sell tickets to the event or something. :p
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: Fulgrim on January 04, 2006, 02:51:16 PM
I am not sure if you folks are familiar with it or not, but last year Mercury showed a concept car known as the Meta One.

It was a twin Turbocharged hybrid deisel. The vehicle was also a Pzev vehicle.

http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=19835

It was a crossover vehicle, and produced 431 lbs of torque
Title: Why buy hybrids if we can buy a Duesenberg
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 04, 2006, 03:14:07 PM
So they made a hybrid diesel Freestyle for mercury? and the beat goes on drums keep a poundin a rhythm to my brain la da dada dee la da da dada.

same ole copycat  new new powerplant.