Racing => At The Track => Topic started by: Tbird232ci on November 27, 2005, 06:36:22 PM
Title: Im going to give up.
Post by: Tbird232ci on November 27, 2005, 06:36:22 PM
Took the TC to the track
first run was a shakedown, only had about 8-10psi in it because i just put the controller on, ran a 17 something, thats not important, second run, after having to "reconstruct" my boost controller, it made an insane amount of boost, blowing the upper hose off before i could lift, third run was a clean, and VERY dissapointing run
60ft-2.7
1/8- 11.2 mpg- 67.5
1/4- 17.14 mpg- 82.8
Even driving the car home, it made no power, i thought i blew out my bypass valve, but it seems to be fine, sounds as if it has a boost leak, but i didnt pull the intercooler off yet to mess with the hoses, i know my upper hose is about shot
ill take some time tomorrow to try to find out what the things problems are, then finish up the mods i plan on and just drive the thing, i chase more problems at the track than anything.
Title: Im going to give up.
Post by: Tbird232ci on November 29, 2005, 12:29:54 PM
Well, i tore into the car, turns out that my lower IC hose blew off of its seat, an was leaking boost. Easy fix.
I also did a little bit of math, and if i were to get my 60ft down to a 1.9, i could have had a 15.60 or so, on 8psi, which isnt bad in all reality
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Post by: V8Demon on November 29, 2005, 01:04:48 PM
So with full boost and a 1.9 what is your goal?
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Post by: Tbird232ci on November 29, 2005, 01:23:43 PM
all i really want out of the car is a mid 14, just enough to have a little fun
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Post by: CougarSE on November 29, 2005, 10:12:03 PM
when are you going back to the track shawn?
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Post by: Tbird232ci on November 30, 2005, 01:47:09 AM
probably in the spring time
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Post by: shame302 on November 30, 2005, 04:57:22 PM
cooch....
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Post by: Tbird232ci on November 30, 2005, 06:35:58 PM
You are what you eat, you dick.
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Post by: baxo on November 30, 2005, 07:04:51 PM
then I guess that makes me a cabbage roll
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Post by: shame302 on November 30, 2005, 07:29:04 PM
pshhh....i got nothin... :(
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Post by: Haystack on December 01, 2005, 09:53:14 AM
hey now, even if it was a low 17 second run, you still got 82 miles per gallon.
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Post by: Tbird232ci on December 01, 2005, 12:52:23 PM
4 cylinder fury! 17 seconds AND gas milage.
Yeah, Manson caught that, i looked at it and said "i aint changin it"
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Post by: Haystack on December 01, 2005, 05:42:17 PM
well then, I would like to formally complain against you.......or something.
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Post by: TurboCoupe50 on December 01, 2005, 07:51:50 PM
If you could get a patent on that MPG... You'd be a rich man...
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Post by: RTStabler51 on December 02, 2005, 04:05:05 PM
Was this at ital?
BTW, I'll be in Linthicum next week....I love going back to 'redneck ville' :-)
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Post by: Tbird232ci on December 02, 2005, 07:06:30 PM
Quote from: RTStabler51
Was this at ital?
BTW, I'll be in Linthicum next week....I love going back to 'redneck ville' :-)
Sure was.
Im like 20 minutes from itol
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Post by: shame302 on December 03, 2005, 11:20:20 PM
c'mon...shawns not a giver upper...
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Post by: Pressure cooked chicken on December 13, 2005, 08:58:20 PM
don't feel so bad. i ran both my tc's at the track last year. the auto ran an astounding 18 something. the 5 speed(after some practice) ran a 15.81 @ 86mph with a pretty good 2.13 60'. i boxed the control arms, installed subframe connectors and swapped in the 3.73's from the auto and it actually slowed it down due to ridiculuosly easy tire spin. powershifting just blows them away, oh well maybe time for some drag radials. the auto is being punished for it's slowness by getting a single turbo 408w. the cage and rearend prep is done. bwahahaha!
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Post by: srv1 on December 14, 2005, 11:20:48 PM
Big heavy car with small torqueless motor= slow. I never understood why Ford put these motors in the Bird/Cougars. Anyways, did you have your front sway bar disconnected?
James
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Post by: Tbird232ci on December 15, 2005, 01:58:05 AM
the car makes torque, i just wasnt driving it properly, and i had a boost leak
i dont change anythign when i get to the track. the only thing i did was change my PRC settings. You cant call it a street car if you modify it at the track to run at the track.
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Post by: V8Demon on December 15, 2005, 08:35:24 AM
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You cant call it a street car if you modify it at the track to run at the track.
I'm inclined to agree with you however it seems everyone and their mother takes that sway bar off....
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Post by: thunderjet302 on December 15, 2005, 05:25:39 PM
I agree and to make it more of a street car have 'em run radials. Not drag radial regular radial tires. Who drives around on drag radials everyday anyways?
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Post by: Tbird232ci on December 15, 2005, 06:47:29 PM
Quote from: Paul Flockhart
I'm inclined to agree with you however it seems everyone and theirmother takes that sway bar off....
Just because everyone does it, doesnt make it right.
Dont let the peer pressure get to you.
BUT ALL THE COOL KIDS DO IT!!
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Post by: shame302 on December 16, 2005, 03:35:10 PM
its not peer pressure, its just your turn ;)
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Post by: 87badbird2613 on December 22, 2005, 12:55:33 PM
i drive on drag radials everyday and theyare incedible.. even in the rain and snow!!! you would be surprised
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Post by: Tbird232ci on December 28, 2005, 05:17:57 PM
and youll go through many more sets of drag radials a year than i will go through in street tires in 3 years
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Post by: turbo88 on January 08, 2006, 10:03:13 PM
Quote from: srv1
Big heavy car with small torqueless motor= slow. I never understood why Ford put these motors in the Bird/Cougars. Anyways, did you have your front sway bar disconnected?
James
the motors are not tourqueless, mabey tourqueless to you but not for a 4 cyl they have plenty of grunt, and hey the turbocoupes get good gas milledge and also are great and fun cars to drive, have you ever owned a turbocoupe or do you own one now? if so i dont think your would have said what you said. and with the turbos there are plenty of cheap mods you can do to make more power, and putting a 5.0ho in them wont solve much either just makes the car heavier and less of a "handler"... im all for the 4 cyl :headbang:
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Post by: 88turbo on January 08, 2006, 10:25:01 PM
:iagree:
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Post by: Tbird232ci on January 09, 2006, 10:44:25 AM
torque with a turbo coupe is all in how you drive
when i do the PRC trick, where the rear stays soft, and the front still adjusts, if i get a good launch, it pulls the nose up pretty hard, you need to be able to slip the clutch with the RPMs up high so you have enough RPM and load to create boost, and come off of the clutch somewhat aggressivly, then boom, nose is up, and car is moving
the torque is there, its just no from idle like a lot of V8's
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Post by: turbo88 on January 09, 2006, 05:45:16 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
torque with a turbo coupe is all in how you drive
when i do the PRC trick, where the rear stays soft, and the front still adjusts, if i get a good launch, it pulls the nose up pretty hard, you need to be able to slip the clutch with the RPMs up high so you have enough RPM and load to create boost, and come off of the clutch somewhat aggressivly, then boom, nose is up, and car is moving
the torque is there, its just no from idle like a lot of V8's
true, i agree completly
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Post by: Turbo Coupe on January 21, 2006, 02:28:13 AM
whats your timing set at? my first pass ever in my TC was a 17.2 @ 82mph, timing was way retarded, got it set right and it ran 15.9 @ 87.
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Post by: Tbird232ci on January 21, 2006, 10:09:41 AM
14* btdc
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Post by: srv1 on January 30, 2006, 12:25:05 AM
Quote from: turbo88
the motors are not tourqueless, mabey tourqueless to you but not for a 4 cyl they have plenty of grunt, and hey the turbocoupes get good gas milledge and also are great and fun cars to drive, have you ever owned a turbocoupe or do you own one now? if so i dont think your would have said what you said. and with the turbos there are plenty of cheap mods you can do to make more power, and putting a 5.0ho in them wont solve much either just makes the car heavier and less of a "handler"... im all for the 4 cyl :headbang:
So what does the torque curve look like? http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5639&stc=1&d=1138476555 Peaks at 4 drops at 55 with peak of 220. Not a real good torque curve, but it is a 4cyl so most dont have a flat torque curve. Putting a V8 wont solve much either? Please tell me your kidding!
James:rolleyes:
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Post by: V8Demon on January 30, 2006, 07:19:58 PM
What are your RPM's at launch? Shift points?
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Post by: Tbird232ci on February 12, 2006, 05:05:18 PM
Mine?
I havnt dialed in a launch, probably around 3,800 and i ride the clutch out a bit. I shift at about 6,000.