Technical => Drivetrain Tech => Topic started by: Go Roush on October 27, 2005, 06:41:17 PM
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: Go Roush on October 27, 2005, 06:41:17 PM
Installed my Aod and motor out of a Lincoln Mark 7 in my 79 F-100 and now the tranny wont shift out of 1st gear. Got all the linkage correct, even the kickdown cable. If anyone knows waht might be the problem any help would be greatly appreciatied. The tranny worked great in the Lincoln, no problems at all. Thanks Nate.
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: pro-five-oh on October 27, 2005, 06:43:48 PM
The TV cable needs to be adjusted, sounds like its set waaaay too low. DO NOT DRIVE IT LIKE THIS!
http://www.lincolnsonline.com/article138.html
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: Go Roush on October 27, 2005, 09:23:12 PM
I got it all adjusted, no slack in it at all.
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on October 28, 2005, 01:11:15 AM
Quote from: Go Roush
I got it all adjusted, no slack in it at all.
That may be your problem... Basically its supposed to be at full travel at WOT and only slight travel at closed throttle.
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: Lightningbird on October 28, 2005, 02:10:34 AM
check to see if it is connected on the valve body, It sounds for sure like the TV cable.
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: Go Roush on October 28, 2005, 08:45:48 AM
What would be the proper way to know that the adjustment would be correct.
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: MasterBlaster on October 28, 2005, 10:02:01 AM
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What would be the proper way to know that the adjustment would be correct.
That it shifts out of 1st? :D
Here, have a read... http://www.txchange.com/aodadj.htm
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: Go Roush on October 28, 2005, 01:52:22 PM
I printed off the link and I will give it a try and get back to you.
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: Go Roush on October 31, 2005, 08:24:00 AM
Got everything properly adjusted, changed filter, and checked out the governor in the tailshaft and didnt change a thing. Got fed up and pulled the tranny out, will take it to some one to look it over and fix.
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 31, 2005, 08:41:15 AM
Check to make sure the lever on the side of the tranny that the TV cable attaches to is moving freely. They're pr0ne to sticking, especially if the donor car has been sitting awhile, and when they stick they tend to do so in the WOT position, preventing the 1-2 upshift (it doesn't actually prevent it, it just delays it until redline).
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: Go Roush on October 31, 2005, 01:46:57 PM
No it is not stuck moves very freely
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: ButtSlappingPirate on November 01, 2005, 02:30:26 PM
I think you already mentioned that you had pulled the tranny, but the way to check if you actually have the cable adjust correctly, is to hook up a pressure line to the TV port on the pass. side of the tranny. Depending on whether or not you have a shift kit in it, it should be reading around 2-3 psi at idle. If all else is well, I am thinking that there is either a linkage problem at the throttle body end, that, or the TV lever inside of the tranny, right at the valve body, is tweaked, probably during tranny removal from the Lincoln. I would pop the tranny pan off, and see if the lever is pushing the TV valve in properly, or if it is even touching anything. Second question: Did you actually swap over the EFI out of the lincoln also? Or did you use a carb? If you used a carb, how exactly did you hook the TV linkage up? A Lokar kit? Or did you use the Ford C-4/C-5/C-6/FMX kickdown linkage that is on most holleys and Ford carbs? Unless you use the Lokar kit, those kickdown setups do not work, as the TV requires full range of motion, following the same arc at the throttle valve....
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: t-bird85 on November 01, 2005, 03:52:20 PM
Quote from: ButtSlappingPirate
I think you already mentioned that you had pulled the tranny, but the way to check if you actually have the cable adjust correctly, is to hook up a pressure line to the TV port on the pass. side of the tranny. ..
Anyway you can post a pic of the port your reering to, Im doing a rebuild on mine now and would like to check that. Not to familiar with tanny's hopefully i can learn something.
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: ButtSlappingPirate on November 01, 2005, 04:28:47 PM
Are you personally doing the rebuild on your AOD?
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: t-bird85 on November 01, 2005, 05:00:59 PM
rebuilding the motor but when i get it all back together would be something i would like to check the AOD is fine just triing to familiarize my self with it a bit
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: Go Roush on November 02, 2005, 08:21:19 AM
Quote from: ButtSlappingPirate
I think you already mentioned that you had pulled the tranny, but the way to check if you actually have the cable adjust correctly, is to hook up a pressure line to the TV port on the pass. side of the tranny. Depending on whether or not you have a shift kit in it, it should be reading around 2-3 psi at idle. If all else is well, I am thinking that there is either a linkage problem at the throttle body end, that, or the TV lever inside of the tranny, right at the valve body, is tweaked, probably during tranny removal from the Lincoln. I would pop the tranny pan off, and see if the lever is pushing the TV valve in properly, or if it is even touching anything. Second question: Did you actually swap over the EFI out of the lincoln also? Or did you use a carb? If you used a carb, how exactly did you hook the TV linkage up? A Lokar kit? Or did you use the Ford C-4/C-5/C-6/FMX kickdown linkage that is on most holleys and Ford carbs? Unless you use the Lokar kit, those kickdown setups do not work, as the TV requires full range of motion, following the same arc at the throttle valve....
I have the lincoln motor and tranny in the truck, and still no progress on whats wrong but will keep checking out your guys ideas thanks a bunch..
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: MasterBlaster on November 02, 2005, 09:26:01 AM
It's not an AOD-E is it? What year is (was) the Mark VII?
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: ButtSlappingPirate on November 02, 2005, 10:18:45 AM
The last year of the Mark 7 was 1992, which still used an AOD...the 1993 was the all-new 4.6, 280 hp Mark 8 with the 4R70W
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: bondocougar on November 03, 2005, 07:43:44 PM
Quote from: t-bird85
Anyway you can post a pic of the port your reering to, Im doing a rebuild on mine now and would like to check that. Not to familiar with tanny's hopefully i can learn something.
Here is a view of the passenger side of the tranny. There are several bolts to measure pressure. I have the TV pressure bolt removed in these photo's.
I was stupid and tried to remove the bolt in a hurry, ended up stripping it. Then I had the bad idea to dremel new flats onto the rounded bolt. Now there aint nothing left to work with. So if its stuck, be sure to take your time, remove the tranny crossmember to drop the tranny to allow you better access if needed.
Title: AOD Problem
Post by: t-bird85 on November 03, 2005, 07:48:08 PM
Thanks very much, Ill make sure to "play " with that when i get mine back together.