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Technical => Suspension/Steering => Topic started by: Nate on October 22, 2005, 08:25:19 PM

Title: im gonna punch somebody in the face
Post by: Nate on October 22, 2005, 08:25:19 PM
any suggestions?

wtf this is the second set of springs i got for my car and they are still to low. they are suspension techniques for a v8 83-88 car lowering 1/2 - 1-1/2" and they dropped it like 3+"... i dont even have any ac components, i have an aluminum radiator, no emmissions, long tube headers, even with the battery out its way to low. everyone iv seen has like a 2 finger gap when they use em, im about to get some c springs but i figured sence i could get the ST springs i would jump on it... :bs:
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Post by: 88SptCoupe on October 22, 2005, 11:08:37 PM
any pics? i would like to lower my front some.
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Post by: CougarCoupe88 on October 23, 2005, 12:20:57 AM
hey manson your in jersey right?  look up brunswick spring they used to be based out of new brunswick but now moved to perth amboy. talk to the guys tell them what you want. they can find the rite spring for your or make the spring you want. they were gonna do my back springs but i totaled my car. .  so give that a try . or some spacers
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Post by: Ether947 on October 23, 2005, 11:44:39 AM
Is it any better than last time???
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Post by: bduly on October 28, 2005, 01:27:09 AM
Any luck? Have you figured anything out yet?
Title: im gonna punch somebody in the face
Post by: Nate on October 28, 2005, 05:07:37 PM
i'v been buisy, but hear is a pic. the problem realy isnt the lowness as much as my extended front track width. at first the lip of the fender was contacting the tire just sitting there. now its so that i can cup my hand around the tire, and move it across between tire and fender. their is basicaly a inch of up/down movement available for suspension travle. im not switching to mustang arms tho, so i'll have to figure something else out. what realy gets me tho is that iv tryed 2 types of spring that were basicaly considered safe, with terrable results. the one on it now i have seen on heavyer cars with a taller ride height to. im compleatly stumped... and i have all the parts on to. its not like i forgot the spring isolators.
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Post by: shame302 on October 28, 2005, 10:17:43 PM
ya got me worried now man...i havnt ordered the front arms or the springs yet but was planning on in another week or so....i hope it pans out...

any chance you could pm or post a pic of the car like it is from further away showing the whole car? that would be helpfull...
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Post by: nirvanagod on October 28, 2005, 10:50:33 PM
So i'm curious, I think I saw a pic of some kind of spacer you installed for your struts. Could that possibly be the cause of your problems? Just looking at it and how low your car really is makes me wonder if it's just being pulled down to far by that thing and perhaps if you removed it it would raise up a little bit. :dunno: I'm prolly wrong, just figured i'd throw out the idea.
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Post by: Nate on October 28, 2005, 10:58:39 PM
the only spacer i have in the front end is a 1/4" piece of steel plate on top of the spring pirch above the k-member to fill the gap. i used a mustang k member so i'd have a good selection of motor mounts and they are a close fit, but not exact. the only thing i did to my struts is put in fox kyb's and mm cc plates. was any of them the spacer you were talking about?
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Post by: nirvanagod on October 28, 2005, 11:09:25 PM
I think it was in the pic that you had of the C/C plates that had the shot of some spacer between the plate and the nut on the top.
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Post by: Nate on October 29, 2005, 06:34:42 PM
(http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4316&stc=1&d=1129935324)

which part? i just want to make sure im not retarded and did something wrong... lol. if its as simple as that ill punch myself in the face:rollin:
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Post by: cougarman on October 29, 2005, 06:58:47 PM
well i think some of your problem is that the spacers are supposed to go under the plate they are used to adjust how much of the stut sticks out of the plate, on my bird i had one on top and the rest underneath, does your hood even shut?
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Post by: nirvanagod on October 29, 2005, 09:47:29 PM
Quote from: Manson
(http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4316&stc=1&d=1129935324)

which part? i just want to make sure im not retarded and did something wrong... lol. if its as simple as that ill punch myself in the face:rollin:


That's the picture i'm thinking of. It the spacer that's between the nut and the C/C plate.
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Post by: Ether947 on October 29, 2005, 10:10:08 PM
if the strut is the cause it would be very easy to find out. disconnect it at the top and see what happens. that IS a lot of spacers.... i think i used one at the top. i could used none but MM says to use at least one so i did.

maybe those cobra control arm cups are deeper than regular tbird arms.
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Post by: shame302 on October 29, 2005, 10:10:30 PM
that.........aint right
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Post by: Nate on October 30, 2005, 12:23:13 AM
i was wondering about that, and my hood comes dam near close to not shutting as in if i push down above the strut i can tap the shock mount with the hood. but even with the struts dissconnected its the same height. but that does solve one of the problems. im glad somebody pointed it out, im not ashamed to hear i did something retarded if it solves a problem for me lol
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Post by: MasterBlaster on October 30, 2005, 07:43:24 AM
You did follow the MM instructions, right?

[COLOR="Red"]1. Before dismantling anything on your car, lay a
straight edge across the fenders and measure down
to the top of the strut shaft. Record this dimension,
you will need it later.

15. Install 1/2" washers over the 12mm bolts of the
Bottom Plate. These washers will rest directly on top
of the car’s strut tower.

16. Install the 1/2" inside diameter spacers over the
12mm bolts of the Bottom Plate.

21. Install the strut shaft through the spherical
bearing with five of the 16mm (inside diameter) spacers.

If the car is at stock ride height, place one of the
thinnest spacers on top of the spherical bearing.
Place four remaining spacers under the spherical bearing.

If the car is lowered from stock, position the spacers
so that the top of the strut shaft is higher than the
dimension recorded in step 1 by the same amount
that the car is lowered.[/COLOR]

That still wouldn't explain the lowness, as the springs hold up the car. The struts/mounts just keep the wheels from falling over.
Title: im gonna punch somebody in the face
Post by: Nate on October 30, 2005, 06:10:09 PM
mine actualy didnt come with insturctions... unless they fell out without me noticing them during my crazed excited frenzy of opening the box lol. thanx for posting them tho. i figured it had to be one or the other, guess that  50/50 shot was wrong :P
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Post by: MasterBlaster on October 30, 2005, 08:20:23 PM
Quote
mine actualy didnt come with insturctions...


http://maximummotorsports.com/instructions/MMCC8388r3.pdf