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Technical => Body/Appearance/Interior => Topic started by: t-bird85 on October 14, 2005, 03:30:10 PM

Title: Rims
Post by: t-bird85 on October 14, 2005, 03:30:10 PM
Guys i have an 85 t-bird looking a pruchasing new rims can you post some pics of the 83-88 bird or cat with aftermarket rims and rim manufacturer and type.  Thanks in advance for your posts
Title: Rims
Post by: cougarman on October 14, 2005, 03:59:16 PM
My 88 Cougar.:banana:
Title: Rims
Post by: cougarman on October 14, 2005, 04:00:27 PM
whoops wrong ptc, duh.:brick:
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Post by: Turbo Coupe on October 14, 2005, 04:01:12 PM
87 turbo coupe with black 93 cobra replicas 255 45 17 tires
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/2054000-2054999/2054046_6_full.jpg)
they are actually forsale
Title: Rims
Post by: Ether947 on October 14, 2005, 05:23:48 PM
95-96 Cobra Wheels

(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/571000-571999/571236_27_full.jpg)
Title: Rims
Post by: cougarman on October 14, 2005, 06:59:43 PM
FR 500, 18x9.:D
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Post by: Turbo Coupe on October 14, 2005, 08:05:23 PM
Quote from: darkthunder
95-96 Cobra Wheels

(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/571000-571999/571236_27_full.jpg)


i really like how those wheels look. i want to swap to 5 lug but that means i cant keep my 93s :-(
Title: Rims
Post by: Ether947 on October 14, 2005, 08:54:31 PM
ME too... wish I never sold them. I like your wheels, I'd take them off your hands if I had the money.
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Post by: The Hawk on October 14, 2005, 11:04:18 PM
All 3 of my setups:

1st: ROH ZR's (17x8.5's w 275/40-17's)

(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/209000-209999/209646_217_full.jpg)

2nd: FRPP Cobra R's (17x9's with 255/45 and 275/40-17's)

(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/209000-209999/209646_26_full.jpg)

Current set up:

Custom made, 3 piece IForged "Aero"

18x9 w/255/40-18's up front
18x10 w/295/35-18's out back

(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/209000-209999/209646_277_full.jpg)
Title: Rims
Post by: Red_LX on October 15, 2005, 01:09:53 AM
Not sure if any of you guys are interested, but Latemodel Restoration Supply has an ad in 5.0 Magazine that says they have '93 cobra replicas "starting at $590 a set" in satin, black, anthracite and chrome. Doesn't say if they come with center caps or not, but I sure wouldn't mind having a set of those in anthracite...
Title: Rims
Post by: Turbo Coupe on October 16, 2005, 02:11:32 AM
Quote from: The Hawk
All 3 of my setups:

1st: ROH ZR's (17x8.5's w 275/40-17's)
/QUOTE]

did u have to mod anything to fit the 275 40s all the way around?
Title: Rims
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on October 16, 2005, 02:48:21 PM
Quote from: Turbo Coupe
Quote from: The Hawk
All 3 of my setups:

1st: ROH ZR's (17x8.5's w 275/40-17's)
/QUOTE]

did u have to mod anything to fit the 275 40s all the way around?





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btw you can put a 17x10.5 wide wheel under the rear with 315/35/17's  with no clearance issues if you remove the quad shocks.
Title: Rims
Post by: The Hawk on October 16, 2005, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Turbo Coupe
did u have to mod anything to fit the 275 40s all the way around?

On the rear no......the only reason I could get away with 275's up front was thanks to my track alignement settings (-2.5 degrees) With a normal street alignment there's no way in hell it will fit....255's tops.

Quote from: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87
Quote from: Turbo Coupe

btw you can put a 17x10.5 wide wheel under the rear with 315/35/17's  with no clearance issues if you remove the quad shocks.

No you can't. Maybe a set of Nitto drag radial 315's (because they're no wider than a 295) but there's no way you're gonna fit a normal sized 315 in there. I did tons of measuring to see if there was any way it could work....and the bottom line is the wheelwells just aren't deep enough. With my setup now there's only 3/4" of clearance between the sidewall and inner wheelwell and the quads are gone as well....gotta leave room for movement if you plan to go around corners at all and 3/4" is considered the minimum.
Title: Rims
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on October 16, 2005, 03:42:52 PM
Quote from: The Hawk
On the rear no......the only reason I could get away with 275's up front was thanks to my track alignement settings (-2.5 degrees) With a normal street alignment there's no way in hell it will fit....255's tops.

Quote from: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87


No you can't. Maybe a set of Nitto drag radial 315's (because they're no wider than a 295) but there's no way you're gonna fit a normal sized 315 in there. I did tons of measuring to see if there was any way it could work....and the bottom line is the wheelwells just aren't deep enough. With my setup now there's only 3/4" of clearance between the sidewall and inner wheelwell and the quads are gone as well....gotta leave room for movement if you plan to go around corners at all and 3/4" is considered the minimum.




i have pictures to prove that they fit  they were spoogeho 710's
check out my thread in members rides .belive there on the second page.

stock width t/c rear  stock wheel wells  s95 offset wheels (cobra r's)



and ran 275/40's on the front on 17x9's
Title: Rims
Post by: The Hawk on October 16, 2005, 04:14:52 PM
It's hard to tell anything from those pics other than the fact the fronts clearly stick out past the fender and those rears look awful skinny for a 315. I'm not saying they're not 315's...obviously you can read if that's what's on the sidewall, just that they look thin compared to 315's made by BFG, Goodyear, etc. My 295's look bigger IMO

 I should also mention....when I make the declaration that a 315 won't fit....I'm basing that on a lowered T-Bird. If the car is at stock height like your's is, virtually anything will "fit" without hitting. Try fitting 315's on a lowered Bird....it ain't happening.....295 is as big as it gets while keeping the sidewall inside the fenderlip without hitting and avoiding rubbing the inner fenderwell.
Title: Rims
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on October 16, 2005, 09:50:57 PM
Quote from: The Hawk
It's hard to tell anything from those pics other than the fact the fronts clearly stick out past the fender and those rears look awful skinny for a 315. I'm not saying they're not 315's...obviously you can read if that's what's on the sidewall, just that they look thin compared to 315's made by BFG, Goodyear, etc. My 295's look bigger IMO

 I should also mention....when I make the declaration that a 315 won't fit....I'm basing that on a lowered T-Bird. If the car is at stock height like your's is, virtually anything will "fit" without hitting. Try fitting 315's on a lowered Bird....it ain't happening.....295 is as big as it gets while keeping the sidewall inside the fenderlip without hitting and avoiding rubbing the inner fenderwell.





the fronts did stick out because i changed the front suspension around mustang k member with t-bird arms made it about 1.5 wider in the front thats why they arnt on it anymore and i have the welds on it gives a nice stance with the skinnies 

the 315's were auto-x- slicks dunno if that made a diff but they never rubbed doing the twisty thing  i mesured them at 11.00 wide edge to edge

yeah mine is stock height and i had no desire to lower it.


I wasn't trying to argue i know thats how it seemed but i was stating that i had ran them on mine . everyones car is differant due to the assembly line what fits good on one may not fit another at all.


peace __ russell
Title: Rims
Post by: The Hawk on October 16, 2005, 10:44:45 PM
Quote from: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87


the 315's were auto-x- slicks dunno if that made a diff but they never rubbed doing the twisty thing  i mesured them at 11.00 wide edge to edge






Those are the spoogeho's right? They tend to be on the not so wide side much like Nitto drag radials even though their published specs would lead you to believe they're huge (spoogeho claims that tire has a section width of 12.8" and a tread width of 11.9". My 295's measure out to a 10.5" tread width and a 11.5" overall width. Most 315's measure out to a 12.6" total section width with a tread width well over 11" (depending on how round the shoulder of the tire is)

On my car if you measure from the inside of the fenderlip to the inner wheelwell at the widest point it comes out to 12.75" (and that's with the lip rolled) so a common 315 would have fitiment issues with it's 12.6" section width. I really wanted to do 315's but there just was no way it would work without hitting something...especially with all the hard cornering I like to do. My outer sidewall of my tires lines up just inside of the rolled fenderlip so if the suspension were to fully compress, the tire would just clear it without touching and I end up with 3/4" of clearance between my inner wheelwell and sidewall of the tire....it barely clears when coming in a steep driveway though when the body rocks over.

 I'm surprised about your front though....the Mustang K-Member/T-Bird control arm combo should have maintained the stock track width of a TC. When I had Cobra R's up front the standard SN-95 spec offset would not fit (R58's with the 5.95 backspace/24mm offset) and would have stuck out past the fender unless I ran a skinny ass tire on it. I used to run the M-179 version with the 6.42" BS/ 36mm offset and they fit perfect.

:cool:
Title: Rims
Post by: Turbo Coupe on October 16, 2005, 10:52:44 PM
thats what sucks about running mustang offset front wheels on turbo coupes, however my 8.5" (closer to 9) wheels wouldnt clear my struts if they had more backspacing. my cobras stick out past the fenders a bit, to get it right you need to swap to mustang A arms they are like 3/4s of an inch shorter i think.

im with hawk tho, i highly doubt 315s will fit back there with out a lot of work. i have a 89 iroc and we have bigger rear wheel wells then fox bodys and we have to pound the inner fender wells in and roll the lips to fit a 315 comfortably.
Title: Rims
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on October 16, 2005, 11:07:29 PM
Quote from: The Hawk


 I'm surprised about your front though....the Mustang K-Member/T-Bird control arm combo should have maintained the stock track width of a TC. When I had Cobra R's up front the standard SN-95 spec offset would not fit (R58's with the 5.95 backspace/24mm offset) and would have stuck out past the fender unless I ran a skinny ass tire on it. I used to run the M-179 version with the 6.42" BS/ 36mm offset and they fit perfect.

:cool:



yeah they were spoogeho 710's  275/40/17 frnt 315/35/17 rear


yeah the front really had everyone confused

i am using the qa1 k memeber and it also moved them forward too

with the stock t/c arms. i was told mustang arms would bring them back to  normal track width.


i dunno theres lots of stuff odd on mine like the width thing and fitments.
Title: Rims
Post by: t-bird85 on October 17, 2005, 05:10:40 PM
Thanks guys for the pics, I like The hawks rims the one in his sig.  The Hawk how much did those set you back if you dont mind me asking and where would be the best place to find them, is there a store online?  I'M looking at going with a 16x9 in rim.
Title: Rims
Post by: The Hawk on October 17, 2005, 05:28:02 PM
For starters the company doesn't make them that small (18's are as small as they come) and they are expensive as they are custom made 3 piece wheels. Figure on spending $2500+ for a set like mine.

http://www.iforged.com/mainl.html
Title: Rims
Post by: shame302 on October 17, 2005, 06:24:14 PM
how are you liking the new BFG's? are they worth the cashamolah? they look amazing..are they noisy?
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Post by: The Hawk on October 17, 2005, 06:51:05 PM
I love 'em....I've read some people find them noisey but I find they're only noisey when I stand on the throttle in second gear and they start spinning...LOL!! I can easily say they are the best tires I've ever had.....they look cool, they ride nice and they stick very well in the corners and provide very good feedback.
Title: Rims
Post by: shame302 on October 17, 2005, 06:58:50 PM
beautiful.......:banana: