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General => General Fox T-Bird/Cougar Discussion => Topic started by: slamedcat on November 16, 2004, 05:40:07 PM

Title: Are these factory rims?
Post by: slamedcat on November 16, 2004, 05:40:07 PM
http://www.motorheadtrader.com/userpics/MH110903181153A.JPG (http://www.motorheadtrader.com/userpics/MH110903181153A.JPG)

Found some rims for sale wanting to know if they are factory or aftermarket.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: tbirdscott on November 16, 2004, 06:03:34 PM
factory to what? think I might have seen something like that on the late 70's early 80's pintos, and mustangs. Maybe the cobra or rally versions :dunno: will flip throught the brochures and see what I can find.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Ifixyawata on November 16, 2004, 06:31:11 PM
Those are a BBS-style wheel.  Pretty rare and very desirable.  Not sure what, if anything, they came stock on.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: foxford on November 16, 2004, 06:41:43 PM
I was thinking they were an einkie wheel, but BBS sounds to be a possibility too.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: slamedcat on November 16, 2004, 06:48:35 PM
Here is the original ad for them.



1987 - thunderbird and mustang
09/09/2004 - OR - For Sale - A set of new summit p225/60r15 tires on gold keystone mags. These are 4 lug FORD. They came off my sisters one owner Thunderbird and have less than 500 miles on them. make offer -
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on November 16, 2004, 07:19:16 PM
They're not factory on a T-Bird, but they did come on Saleen Mustangs. Very nice wheels
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Cougars 2 go on November 16, 2004, 11:06:39 PM
How about Cragar Keystone Klassic aftermarket wheels?
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: JWolt on November 17, 2004, 02:35:08 PM
I like the cragar keystone klassic's.  I really want to do the five lug swap so I can get a set of those.

Jim
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: cougarcragar on November 17, 2004, 04:01:47 PM
Those look like those Australian aftermarket wheels. I've never seen that crown logo on a centercap before.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Tbird232ci on November 17, 2004, 07:24:57 PM
Saleen mustangs got the ARE's, those arnt ARE's, but i dont know what they are, they almost look like the early (somewhere in 79-82ish) stang wheels when they had the cobra or GT or similar model
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Bird351 on November 17, 2004, 07:40:55 PM
Was it the "King Cobra" you were thinking of? I think they used that name from the end of the Mustang II thru the beginning of the Fox.

http://www.phoenixgraphix.com/ford/sk702.htm?

(the graphics are butt-ugly)
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Rwolf on November 18, 2004, 01:37:04 AM
Only other factory Mesh rims I can think of was the ASC Mclaren Capri and stang. However there mesh rim dosen't quite look like the one posted.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: SSX on November 18, 2004, 02:20:12 AM
King Cobra looks like it has bigger center caps.
(http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/74-78/78/KingCobra-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: SSX on November 18, 2004, 02:24:53 AM
Yeah, it's not an ASC McLaren wheel either:
(http://www.ascmclaren.com/PARTS/New%20Folder/2/3/rim0010.jpg)
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: cougarcragar on November 18, 2004, 10:52:32 AM
We have to solve this or it's going to drive me nuts.
Did anybody see "Mad Max" or "The Road Warrior?" Some of the cars in those movies are all modded out, and I swear I've seen those wheels before.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: slamedcat on November 18, 2004, 04:18:48 PM
If i remember correctly the honey comb wheels on the mustang II were 13 in rims. These are 15 in.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Tbird232ci on November 18, 2004, 04:22:28 PM
i actually mean on the early fox stangs, there was some sort of package on it that i could swear had those rims
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Bird351 on November 18, 2004, 04:24:35 PM
The early packages were King Cobra and the Pace Car.. don't recall seeing any other packages when I looked this up. There's an Edmunds "generations" article on the Mustang that lists a lot of that stuff.. but I don't have a link to it.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: cougarman on November 18, 2004, 04:34:17 PM
King Cobra was a Mustang II package, the Pace car was a fox Mustang. :)
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Bird351 on November 18, 2004, 04:36:19 PM
Clicky the link in my first post, it'll show you an '80 King Cobra.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Tbird232ci on November 18, 2004, 04:38:12 PM
yeah, but those rims arnt factory, those look like some Primes
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Bird351 on November 18, 2004, 04:43:36 PM
OK, according to Edmunds:

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/generations/articles/93320/article.html

There was a Cobra package for '79 and '80.. it just wasn't the King Cobra name, or at least they don't specifically say King Cobra in the article. It's possible that the site selling graphics up there (the other link I provided) was erroneously tacking King onto it.

The Pace Car had the TRX wheels.. don't know what the Cobra packages had.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: cougarman on November 18, 2004, 04:46:12 PM
Yep almost bought one of these when they were brand new. They were just called Cobra, basically rebadged Pace cars. :)
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Bird351 on November 18, 2004, 04:50:27 PM
[all-out hijack]

Quote

The most desirable of all '79 Mustangs would turn out to be the 6,000 Indy pace car replica fastbacks, which featured a unique hood scoop, unique front air dam, unique rear spoiler, black and silver paint with orange graphics and an interior blessed with genuine Recaro front seats. The pace car was available with either turbo four or V8 power and included the TRX wheel and tire package.

With the Ghia trim back on the coupe and a "Cobra" package available on the hatchback (which had a fake hood scoop but no spoilers), the '79 Mustang was a hit. A healthy 369,936 Mustangs were built that model year.


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All the spoilers and scoops used on the '79 pace car were now part of the '80 Cobra package, which also included a tasteless oversize cobra hood decal. In what was the worst year ever for Mustang engine performance, Ford sold 271,322 examples of the breed.


In other words: Yes and no.

[/all-out hijack]
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: cougarman on November 18, 2004, 04:52:32 PM
lol yea those '79 Cobras were kinda of plain, much better in '80. I've always loved those pace cars, one of the best looking 'stangs imo. :ies:
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Bird351 on November 18, 2004, 04:56:43 PM
I prefer pre-'83 Capris over Mustangs of similar age.. but that's prejudice from owning two of them. :p (an '80 4-banger and an '81 I6 w/ T-tops)

That Cobra pic doesn't really help things much, does it? Wheels look aftermarket to me.. but then again, I'm not exactly an expert on wheels.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: cougarman on November 18, 2004, 05:03:25 PM
Capris are cool, always wanted one of these too. Special "Detroit Grand Prix" edition Capri. :banana:

( the hijack is on...lol)
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: cougarcragar on November 18, 2004, 06:00:21 PM
Now those are AREs.
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: Cougars 2 go on November 18, 2004, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: cougarcragar
Those look like those Australian aftermarket wheels. I've never seen that crown logo on a centercap before.


Here is a picture of that centercap logo:
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=productdetail.asp&p=4792&view=2047
Title: Re: Are these factory rims?
Post by: cougarcragar on November 19, 2004, 10:37:44 AM
That's very, very close.
So those are Cragars?
This is where I really love my 5-year-old username.
:D
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