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Title: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Cad-T-Bird 500 on September 22, 2005, 01:53:00 AM
There has been two birds listed on ebay recently that I think had a pretty good bid but did not meet the reserve.  I would have taken the money on either one.  Are the value going up on the turbo coupe.  I looked at one recently for $500 and did not buy, but it was beat.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4575734865&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4575004601&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

What do you guys and gals think?

TED
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Dogcharmer on September 22, 2005, 03:23:42 AM
Hell yeah I would've taken the money! Especailly on the second one. I need to put my bird up on E-bay!
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Ether947 on September 22, 2005, 07:59:42 AM
, that second one is immaculate! Eh, I would have kept the car. I get monies to buy more car(s)/parts. :)
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: EricCoolCats on September 22, 2005, 09:28:20 AM
The second one is 15 miles from my house...amazing that I never saw it before.  that thing is clean.
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Tbird232ci on September 22, 2005, 10:14:18 AM
The thing is, the era of cars we have are now starting to pop out of people garages and being sold for the latest and greatest badass toy.

My buddy thats into 3rg gens was telling me about how there are alot of garage kept camaro's and trans am's for sale all over the place, people trying to get 6,500+ for them

people pull them out of the garage, not knowing what they really sell for, try to sell them high, then a lot of other people see that, and try to sell high too
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: EricCoolCats on September 22, 2005, 10:30:40 AM
4th Gens are even worse, Shawn. The trade-in value of my brother's 1997 WS6 Ram-Air 6-speed is like $13-15K. Which would be great except the ed thing has 1500 miles on it. Not thousand, hundred. The plastic is still on the carpeting; there's an extra set of new floormats in the box; and he has a spare OEM hood that's been discontinued, still in the box. Car has every option but the power driver's seat (even has the Monsoon stereo system with the 10-disc changer). This is a once-in-a-lifetime find for someone, when and if he decides to sell. $15K isn't nearly enough money for something like this. But like you said, you put it out there, see what people are willing to spend, and go from there. There is a lot of perceived value with vehicles and sometimes things are artificially inflated for no good reason.

Like with this : http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=186677407&dealer_id=56677965&car_year=1988&search_type=both&make=MERC&distance=0&model=COUGAR&sponsorModel=&address=44512&certified=&advanced=&max_price=&bkms=1127399275767&min_price=&end_year=1988&start_year=1988&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=1560

$10,500 for a 1988 Blue Max with a V6 and 130K miles...on a rebuilt engine.
Bite my ass. :)
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Tbird232ci on September 22, 2005, 11:25:46 AM
that, and you do get people that seriously think theyre car is worth so much more than it really is

my dad has an 89 thunderbird, its starting to rust pretty bad in some spots, the interior is going to shiznit, need 4 new springs, shocks and struts, balljoints, all kinds of stuff, and because he had a new engine put in it, he thinks he can get 4K for it, because thats what the engine costed him

he paid 3K for it back in the early 90's

some people....
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: slamedcat on September 22, 2005, 11:33:06 AM
My 88 XR7 doesn't have a glove box light does that mean it worth $10,500 also?  :hick:

That was the problem I ran into when looking for a TC. I found 1 for $1700 but was worth s.

Ride control broke
Drivers mirror broke
4 Bald tires
half a dash (most trim pieces missing)
exhasut was falling off
Passangers door and trunk lock bondoed over
Had V8 spring in the front
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Funky Cricket on September 22, 2005, 11:37:50 AM
 that second car is clean though.... real clean.
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Tbird232ci on September 22, 2005, 12:07:40 PM
Quote from: slamedcat
My 88 XR7 doesn't have a glove box light does that mean it worth $10,500 also?  :hick:

That was the problem I ran into when looking for a TC. I found 1 for $1700 but was worth s.

Ride control broke
Drivers mirror broke
4 Bald tires
half a dash (most trim pieces missing)
exhasut was falling off
Passangers door and trunk lock bondoed over
Had V8 spring in the front


when i bought mine, the previous owner wanted 1,000 for it, and there was a lot about the car i didnt know, but i knew it wasnt worth 1,000, heater core was bypassed, powersteering kept leaking all the fluid out, the exhaust was rotten and almost ready to fall off, i unbolted the hangers, and broke the tailpipes apart by hand, needed new tires BADLY, broken swaybar endlinks, it had a rear quarter put on it, a lot of bondo in the car, the nose was tweak, passanger side window was off the tracks, there was countless amounts of problems, ones that im STILL working on and trying to iron out, i got the car for 500, in running shape, but im questioning if the car was worth that mcuh
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Haystack on September 22, 2005, 12:14:04 PM
in reality, any car that starts and drives is worth around $500. Your tc really is not bad looking and I would say that it is worth around $1000. Then again, I bought 3 cougars for about $1100 and one of them is missing all of the lock (including the steering colum) and I have put over $500 just junkyard parts. Not to mention all of the things that I bought new. And I payed $110 for that one. Your car is in pretty good shape for a $500 car
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Ether947 on September 22, 2005, 12:18:13 PM
Quote from: EricCoolCats
Like with this : http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=186677407&dealer_id=56677965&car_year=1988&search_type=both&make=MERC&distance=0&model=COUGAR&sponsorModel=&address=44512&certified=&advanced=&max_price=&bkms=1127399275767&min_price=&end_year=1988&start_year=1988&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=1560 (http://"http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=186677407&dealer_id=56677965&car_year=1988&search_type=both&make=MERC&distance=0&model=COUGAR&sponsorModel=&address=44512&certified=&advanced=&max_price=&bkms=1127399275767&min_price=&end_year=1988&start_year=1988&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=1560")

$10,500 for a 1988 Blue Max with a V6 and 130K miles...on a rebuilt engine.
Bite my ass. :)

What a maroon. He may as well bubble wrap that car and put it in a time capsule because it ain't going nowhere for that price... at least not until inflation catches up with it.
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Tbird232ci on September 22, 2005, 12:20:18 PM
Quote from: Haystack
in reality, any car that starts and drives is worth around $500. Your tc really is not bad looking and I would say that it is worth around $1000. Then again, I bought 3 cougars for about $1100 and one of them is missing all of the lock (including the steering colum) and I have put over $500 just junkyard parts. Not to mention all of the things that I bought new. And I payed $110 for that one. Your car is in pretty good shape for a $500 car

it looks good NOW

it didnt look nearly as good when i bought it, the main thing the car had going for it was there wasnt much rust (enough body work to make sure of that), and the interior

it also doesnt have the proper engine in it, its got an 86 engine in it, so i have no idea what else is haggared up with this car
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: 88turbo on September 22, 2005, 12:50:40 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
its got an 86 engine in it, so i have no idea what else is haggared up with this car


how can you tell what year of engine you have?
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Bird351 on September 22, 2005, 01:21:11 PM
I like both my Birds and both my Marks.. but we haven't paid more than $1250 for any one of them. Don't know that I would break that trend by paying what they want for either of those auctions listed in the O.P.. no matter how clean they are. In fact, the cleaner they are, the more reluctant I'd be to buy them. I hesitate to do things to my '89 LSC because, for example, the dash was in such good condition I felt really bad putting holes in it to mount four gauges. But now I've managed to crack the dash in one spot and I'm starting to not feel so bad about modifying it.

Oh, for anyone who wonders why I wouldn't pay $3-6,000 (if I had it) for one of those cars when I said I'd pay $13,000-ish (if I had it) for that Capri in the other thread: It's a McLaren. Whole different set of rules in my book. For a car like that, I'd pay the $13,000 and build its garage by hand if needed. :p
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Tbird232ci on September 22, 2005, 02:10:14 PM
Quote from: 88turbo
how can you tell what year of engine you have?

It helped that it said "86 Tbird" on it in grease pen

you can usually tell by the valve cover, 83-84 have on style, 85-86 has another, 87-88 has another, and the intake manifolds
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: SirChirpAlot on September 22, 2005, 02:10:28 PM
Well frist one i would not pay 3000US for it, I could get one like that in canada for 1500 to 2000 easy,

2nd one is at 6500 US and its a very nice car but its still not anything more then what it is.  That car would go for 4500 here and seeing how 4500 here works out to what around 3000US, 

But its same with other makes of cars people think there on a gold mind when its just a car, and its only worth what other ones like it are going for.
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: Red_LX on September 22, 2005, 06:43:44 PM
I got my TC for $1250 from an older guy who was the car's third owner...Sure, the engine was covered in oil and some rust on the rear quarter panels behind the tires, but it had a good straight body and had never been wrecked, and he had all the receipts and records of ALL the maintenence he had done (it had 121K on it when I bought it). I still think it was a good buy :)


Oh, and speaking of over-valued cars, here's one I see ALL the time...Monte Carlo SS's. I still don't get why people think they can sell such an un-special car for $6500.
Title: Re: How much do you love your bird?
Post by: SirChirpAlot on September 22, 2005, 06:53:59 PM
Because its a red neck car and they hope another red neck will buy it