Fox T-Bird/Cougar Forums

General => User Rides => Topic started by: Sly1990 on September 01, 2005, 09:18:54 PM

Title: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 01, 2005, 09:18:54 PM
Here's the baby i bought Today.....  :locked:  :D  :deal:  :rolleyes:  :flip:
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 01, 2005, 09:20:05 PM
..
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 01, 2005, 09:22:12 PM
There is no engine, need brake job .... paid 1300$Can
The frame, Body is straith and interior is VERY clean.
It need inspection...

All electric... Windows, Antenna, driver seats and A/C!!

I'm buying a 460 with tranny for 600$CA to put in it :D
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on September 01, 2005, 11:19:34 PM
nice project :)
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: thunderjet302 on September 01, 2005, 11:47:14 PM
 looks cool :D  :bowdown: . I want to get a 67-69 Bird one day to. 460 huh. Shouldn't be to hard to put in there. 68 and 69 Birds had 429 Thunderjets so you should be able to get that 460 in there no problem. A little work and you'll be drivin in style.
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: 30thtbird on September 02, 2005, 02:43:24 AM
now thats a "THUNDERBIRD"!!!!
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: oldraven on September 02, 2005, 10:41:57 AM
What, no Cougar? :eek:

Maybe you're trying to break your curse. ;) Nice 'bird, though. I allways thought the '67-69 were the only true muscle car T-birds. Good buy, too.

:canada:
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 02, 2005, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: oldraven
What, no Cougar? :eek:

Maybe you're trying to break your curse. ;)



thanks...
And yes... i hope the curse will go away....  :D
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Funky Cricket on September 02, 2005, 01:14:12 PM
curse! not with that bueaty! nice car. have you seen gas prices lately. maybe you want to put a turbo 4 into that thing..
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: thunderjet302 on September 02, 2005, 02:48:20 PM
That Tbird is a little big for a 2.3 turbo! There is a 69 (basically the same with a little different grill trim) in my Tbird club and I have seen one up close. They are about 2-3 feet longer and about 1-2 feet wider than a fox Bird and they weigh around 4,000 lbs. I know that with a 429 and a C6 these Birds would run to 60 in about 9 or so seconds. With a built 460 his car should be much quicker. Oh and just so you know 67 was the last year for Ford FE big blocks in Thunderbirds. They had a 300 hp 390ci standard or a 340 hp 428ci optional. In 68 they switched to the 385 serries 429. From 70-76 the 429 was standard with the 460 optional.
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Haystack on September 02, 2005, 05:52:57 PM
Yeah I still say inline 6
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: 88turbo on September 02, 2005, 06:16:42 PM
looks like a nice bird :D  good luck with your engine install
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: mjbtbrd on September 02, 2005, 07:02:22 PM
cool car...I like the mid 1960's to mid 70's birds
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 02, 2005, 07:13:03 PM
Quote from: Funky Cricket
curse! not with that bueaty! nice car. have you seen gas prices lately. maybe you want to put a turbo 4 into that thing..


I did see the gas price... but my car is my drug....  :rolleyes:
I have no choise.... I will pay to get more! :D  :tg:
Too much addictive...  :crazy:


Quote from: thunderjet302
That Tbird is a little big for a 2.3 turbo! There is a 69 (basically the same with a little different grill trim) in my Tbird club and I have seen one up close. They are about 2-3 feet longer and about 1-2 feet wider than a fox Bird and they weigh around 4,000 lbs. I know that with a 429 and a C6 these Birds would run to 60 in about 9 or so seconds. With a built 460 his car should be much quicker. Oh and just so you know 67 was the last year for Ford FE big blocks in Thunderbirds. They had a 300 hp 390ci standard or a 340 hp 428ci optional. In 68 they switched to the 385 serries 429. From 70-76 the 429 was standard with the 460 optional.


It weight (with original 390) 4350lb according to the license.
I knew about the last series of the FE engine. That's why I choose a 460. They made it until 1996? (if im right)


Quote from: Haystack
Yeah I still say inline 6

Yeah right!  :crazy:  :flip:  nice try....  :giggle:  :giggle:
My 1st car was a 1982 "Mustang L" (no X) with an inline six... I swear!, NEVER AGAIN! This engine is strong, but suck at acceleration... Maybe i could use an inline 6 on a lawnmower...  :giggle:
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Thunder Chicken on September 02, 2005, 08:20:14 PM
Here's an idea (put the guns down while you read this): How about a nice late model 7.3 Powerstroke turbodiesel? It would probably fit and would probably produce more power than the factory 390 did. In fact it would probably produce more torque than any Ford car ever produced, and you'd probably do better than 35MPG while you're about it. Get one of those Banks power chips and you'd be smoking the tires all the way to the bank :D And if you REALLY wanna stick it to the government, run home heating oil in it instead of diesel. It's illegal because you're not paying road tax on heating oil, but in the days of buck-and-a-half gas, who cares???

If I had a garage I would build something like that - big, bloated, classy, stinky, loud and cheap to run :D
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 04, 2005, 12:07:11 AM
How much do you think this project would cost?
I'm certainely not goin Diesel.. :giggle:

BTW i just realise this t-bird has 11" front disc power brake... ( those are thick disc... nothing to do with my ex-couar or 5.0 mustang.)
I tought it was 4 drums... I'm impressed and happy because there is 1 less swap to do to the car.... :D

Half of the front end (pass side) is already apart and sanded....

More Photos coming tomorrow.....
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 04, 2005, 01:51:27 PM
.
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 04, 2005, 01:53:36 PM
The car odometer show 38,000 miles....

I'm pretty sure they are original just by looking at the frame....
And the front brakes look like new...  the disc are at least 1½" tick and suspension is Coil over (stock).
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: 88turbo on September 04, 2005, 02:31:20 PM
welcome to the older cars bro,  both of my cougars are set up the same way on the front minus the dual pistion calipers.
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Thunder Chicken on September 04, 2005, 07:41:20 PM
The frame looks good :cheers:

those ain't coil overs, though - that's called an SLA (short-long-arm) suspension. A true coil over has the spring mounted directly to the shock. Your car has the spring mounted to the control arm and frame, with the shock going up the middle of the coil. Most pre-80's cars were set up this way.

The 89-97 T-Bird/Cougar and older Honda Civics have a coil-over front suspension
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: MexCougar on September 04, 2005, 08:09:11 PM
Hey , i like the Diesel idea....Imagine Cruising at 85 at 2000 rpm full loaded and trailing a boat and getting 30 Mpg passing a lot of econoboxes at the higway and getting better mileage than most of them......Sounds very good...

(http://teaca.iespana.es/almacen/Cougar.jpg)
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 05, 2005, 02:18:55 AM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken
The frame looks good :cheers:

those ain't coil overs, though - that's called an SLA (short-long-arm) suspension. A true coil over has the spring mounted directly to the shock. Your car has the spring mounted to the control arm and frame, with the shock going up the middle of the coil. Most pre-80's cars were set up this way.

The 89-97 T-Bird/Cougar and older Honda Civics have a coil-over front suspension


Thanks for the clarification.... and yes, the frame is VERY clean... Only minor surface rust... like in the pics from rear to front....
I dont know anything on car older than 1980... The oldest car I owned and worked on was a 1982....  :crazy:

Are these suspension good? What do they worth?
What about those brakes? They look real good IMHO...  :grinno:

Is there a fuse box in that boat? I didnt see any... Anyway, I will redo all the electricals in the car....

The good news is : Everything works!
But most of the motors/accessories doesnt works unless plugged directly  :mad:

How do you guys find the idea to put a custom made fuse box in the engine bay? (Or one from a recent car) So I could do a Custom wiring. (yes i will print a diagram of it for future reference...)
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: 88turbo on September 05, 2005, 11:38:32 AM
the fuse box should be located under the dash on the drivers side.  kinda set back in a bit shouldnt be hard to find. also a good place for you to ask questions about the older tbirds would be http://www.tbirdforum.com/  or  http://www.tbirdregistry.com  there are alot of people there that can answer your questions
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: 30thtbird on September 05, 2005, 11:42:46 AM
if i remember correctly,those are kelsey-hayes disc brakes on the front.the 66 7litre(428police interceptor)galaxie's had those.don't know for sure if its true,but was told by someone that use to have one,that its kinda difficult to find after market wheels to fit that didnt cost an arm and a leg.of course this was over 10 years ago,so i'm sure you would have better luck now.
a 460 would be awesome in that big ole bird.just do what you gotta do and do it well.
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: chrome302jr on September 05, 2005, 12:58:48 PM
I really like those year Tbirds, they have the muscle car look. Aside from the 57 body, those are probably my favorite body tbirds. Yes I said it.  ;)
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: tbirdscott on September 07, 2005, 02:43:55 AM
jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous

Awesome car, my fav bodystyle aside from the 58-60's had a 69 with the 429 but was too rusty and needed a complete restoration so i had to let it go  :disappoin I prefer the 67/68 tail lights though, great price aswell. those cars look awesome lowered just a bit,nice wheels and a neutral paint tone, they really stand out anywhere you go
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Funky Cricket on September 07, 2005, 12:26:20 PM
Quote from: Sly1990

Yeah right!  :crazy:  :flip:  nice try....  :giggle:  :giggle:
My 1st car was a 1982 "Mustang L" (no X) with an inline six... I swear!, NEVER AGAIN! This engine is strong, but suck at acceleration... Maybe i could use an inline 6 on a lawnmower...  :giggle:



http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24859

NOT slow.. hehe. and pretty cheap. though for that boat, i would prolly go 300 inline out of a truck with the tri-carb aussie intake for style.

chuck W.. you a memeber over there too? i think i just noticed your name.
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 15, 2005, 11:21:48 PM
Here's some progress on the body...  :D

Can you say Shaved Handles?  :tg:  :D  ;)  :grinno:
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 15, 2005, 11:22:28 PM
Its gonna be painted black... so I used Black Primer...  :grinno:
This part is now smooth as a baby's skin....
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Ifixyawata on September 16, 2005, 01:57:20 AM
!  You are making incredible progress on that car!
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Haystack on September 16, 2005, 03:39:45 AM
keep us updated. Even though we hate all non fox cars,.... And all of the 80-82's.
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Funky Cricket on September 19, 2005, 04:09:55 PM
nice, though that looked like alot of bondo... :P

i actually like those rear meats.. those are HUGE!
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 19, 2005, 08:36:21 PM
I got no choice to use lot of light mastic and bondo...

Since the car will be painted black, it would have been a lot wavy if I didnt did that.....
My pass side is almost finished... I started attacking the driver side today...

Did I told ya all?

MY FINGERS HURTS!!!!
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 22, 2005, 02:08:22 AM
Engine is finally out....  :bowdown:

I'm attacking the front of the car tomorrow with the metal brush and rust converter.......  :grinno:  :grinno:
Title: Re: 1967 here i come.... (Updated)
Post by: Sly1990 on September 24, 2005, 09:48:26 PM
here's my final black primer layer on the pass side. (The pic may show strange things but I swear, its smooth and perfect...)
and Front part of the frame painted with Tremclad Anti-Rust (Semi-Gloss)
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 24, 2005, 10:02:30 PM
Here's the custom trunk interior I started to do. I plan to use Polyester Resin, MDF rings, Cloths, bondo and Speaker Carpet....

I will apply 2 layer of Polyester resin tomorow over the aluminum foil and will make 3 parts of this big chunk...

2x 12" sub box and a back plate to hide the light in the trunk that I will cover with Gray carpet....

Here's the link where i got the idea.....
http://web.njit.edu/~cas1383/proj/Glassing2/index.htm
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Haystack on September 25, 2005, 12:34:20 AM
man when you say that you are gonna do something you mean it. So far it looks very nice. When its all fixed up your not gonna start hating the fox bodies or turn into a mustang dick are you? Very impressed
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 25, 2005, 01:10:12 AM
Quote from: Haystack
man when you say that you are gonna do something you mean it. So far it looks very nice. When its all fixed up your not gonna start hating the fox bodies or turn into a mustang dick are you? Very impressed


Nah.... no worries...
If I can, maybe i'll try to find a Fox again as daily driver... I really enjoyed every cougar i owned... It was like driving a lounge seated in my @$$ groove...  :rolleyes:
Not a chance I buy myself a mustang...  :nono:
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Thunder Chicken on September 25, 2005, 09:40:53 AM
Did you notice, Sly1990, that the can of fiberglass resin you've got there has an '83 Thunderbird on it? Perhaps an omen? :D
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 29, 2005, 08:33:37 PM
Yep... I noticed... I hope it will still stck good even if its not a fox body or a boat......  :crazy: :giggle:  ;)

Here's some updates for those who still looking at this thread...  :D
Removing all that gummy stuff from under my fenders was a PITA and terrible...

Finally its over...
I will put bran new Asphalt Spray (Tar coating) after i neutralised all this rust....

Note : If anyone wonder why one side is black and one is white.
black = Final primer
White = Scratch Filler Primer..
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on September 29, 2005, 08:36:46 PM
Now the 1st layer of fiberglass and resin was applied...
And as you can see, i spent almost 4 hours to redo my Gas door hole and door.... Now it look F&*%ing good!
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Clayton on September 29, 2005, 09:51:01 PM
hmmmmm you hev the same problem i do........ Old car ... needs work....... very fun to drive...........one difference.... i have a 66 Chevelle

looks good......keep up the good work
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Haystack on September 30, 2005, 02:25:36 AM
nice looking and I want to see how that fibverglass resin works out. I wanna do it to.
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on October 03, 2005, 09:39:47 PM
 fitting that hood was the worst part i guess...

The hood was still to high by 1½" in the back and I realised the hindge was worn to badly and was kinda torquing in every ways.


After 10hrs spent using lot of equivalent of your "F" word (but in french) at every minutes trying to adjust/shim everything (Fenders, doors and hood) after putting back all the front end togheter, I finnaly decided to remove the springs on my hinges and BOOM! almost Perfect fit....  :screwy:  :bs:

I will finally be able to finish my fenders and hood body work....
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: slamedcat on October 03, 2005, 09:49:52 PM
When you said "1967 here I come" I though you were talking about the car, but you got that greaser look down good in that one pic.

Nice car by the way.
Title: Re: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Funky Cricket on October 04, 2005, 04:58:01 PM
more updates!!!!! need more updates!!!!

specially with the trunk. how hard is that to do?
Title: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on October 10, 2005, 06:21:50 PM
You guys ask for it!
You got it....

:D
Title: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on October 10, 2005, 06:25:25 PM
..
Title: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on October 10, 2005, 06:26:40 PM
Now its drying and will apply 3-4 more resin coating this week...

Also, this is my hood perfectly fitted and front of hood body works and me showing off after all this hard works...
Title: 1967 here i come....
Post by: thunderjet302 on October 10, 2005, 09:04:49 PM
Wow amazing work. Birds going to be black right? Just wondering what type of rims ya going to put on it? I think that American racing Salt Flats would lokk killer on it. Oh and stick that 460 in it so you can drive around and use that killer sound system:D .
Title: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Haystack on October 10, 2005, 09:34:39 PM
cant wait to see it all one color. Keep it up.
Title: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Sly1990 on October 10, 2005, 10:00:38 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302
Wow amazing work. Birds going to be black right? Just wondering what type of rims ya going to put on it? I think that American racing Salt Flats would lokk killer on it. Oh and stick that 460 in it so you can drive around and use that killer sound system:D .


I was planing to get some chromed Cragar 5 spokes.
Do you have any pic of those you talking about?
Title: 1967 here i come....
Post by: thunderjet302 on October 11, 2005, 12:15:37 AM
Hope this works. This is the rim I'm talking about.
Title: 1967 here i come....
Post by: Funky Cricket on October 14, 2005, 10:21:36 AM
looking good. are those custom boxes exspensive or hard to make. and where did you get the materials? I was thinking about making a custom sub myself, but am unsure of where to start.