I am hearing everywhere, and had e-mail tonight at work asking everyone to NOT buy gas tomorrow. It is said that this will cost the industry billions of dollars (if enough people will partite). They are also asking everyone o limit travel Labor day weekend as this is another reason for the hike. If we all do our part, will it really make a difference?
Dave
That is quite an old e-mail forward. It won't change a thing.
Opp's I Just Filled Up Two Of My Truck's Today At $2.65 After I Paid And Was Pumping They Changed The Price To $2.85 Just That Fast. This Really Hurt's Me Being I Am In The Lawn Care Buisnes Therfore Im Using Gas And Oil All Day Every Day.. I Dont Know What To Do I Guess I Can Pull My Trailer With My Bike
I have one better for you.
yeah i got that email too...
great pic of the mower btw... lol
gashiznit $2.89 here planning to walk to work until it goes back down
i think im gonna invest in the inner tube my bike needs. at least i can have fun riding to work again. back roads. curbs. cut threw traffic. redlights . stop if safe then go.
but i also dont think that a boycot will work. to many people depend on their cars for the way they live and such. also if we tryed to make a dent in the oil companies now for one day. i belive that it would come back worse they would simply raise the prices just wait for winter when the real wattered down gas comes in. and the oil men get even richer
the cheapest place i seen on the way home from work today was $2.95 gal.another place a seen was $3.09 gal.
A one day boycott would not work because we'd all buy our gas today or Friday. At the end of the week there would be zero difference.
Now if we could somehow get people to boycott a single company (I nominate Petro Canada here in Canada as they're always the first to raise their prices and the last to lower them), and let the companies know that those who raise their prices would be brutally punished it might make a difference, but not much of one. They're screwing us and the only way we can reduce it is to burn less gas. I know this is not possible for many, but it's the sad truth.
One thing that really me off is that the oil companies seem to be immune to anti-gouging laws. After a disaster it is against the law to take advantage of needy people by raising the price. For example, if a tornado rolls through a town it is against the law to raise the price of plywood. If a blizzard buries a city it's against the law to raise the price of snow shovels. If a prolonged power outage happens it's against the law to raise the price of generators and batteries (this was actually enforced here in Halifax after hurricane Juan, when several small store owners jacked up their prices on batteries and such. They were bitch slapped, heavily fined, and publicly embarrassed). So why are oil companies getting away with raising the prices due to a disaster that temporarily limits the supply? I guess when you've got enough oney and influence you make your own laws...
I'd go for the boycott petro canada idea. In Man. they often try to raise their prices first, but unlike what I hear from you, we have some price competition in Rural Manitoba. For example some stations are still selling for 99.9 cents a liter. The norm here is about $1.05.
Around here, we are all part of a fuel cooperative (Red River Co-op) who supplies our fuel. You must buy shares of the cooperative to become a member. At the end of the year the profits are divided between the members. I usually get back about 10 cents a liter, but still pay the same price (or less) as the other stations. In a way I see this as boycotting the major fuel retailers (shell, petro, esso, husky, fas gas etc...) because I only do business with the coop.
The payouts really kick in for bulk diesel purcases for works equiptment :)
the difference between generators, and batteries and such, is that the cost to produce them doesnt change in time of disaster, duracell doesnt say "they got hit by a hurricain, its costing more to produce batteries, lets jack up the price", the oil costs rise and fall with the market, so the gas station prices rise and fall
while i do agree that the stations are gouging, my dad was telling me that he saw a thing on TV, where one station was asking 3.55 a gallon for regular, and a block down the street, it was 2.73 or something like that for regular
gas stations will gouge, but you gotta consider that some of it is due to the rise and fall of oil prices
if only we had more refineries, we wouldnt have so much of a problem...considering we havnt had any new refineries since the 70's
The real way is to only boycott 1 company, the largest, forever. If everybody just stopped buying Exxon/Mobil, they would seriously drop pricing. So, everybody stop going to Exxon, Mobil, Chevron, and any other gas station that uses their fuel. Ever.
honestly, i doubt that they would lower prices, because they cant pull all the customers back, but there are loyal customers that will come and buy certain gas for whatever price, i always try to run Exxon in my car, because its the only gas that performs as well as it does in my car, and i dont mind paying a cent or 2 more for it
hell, they might raise prices trying to recoupe for the loss of money in case of a boycott
Wish I could ride a bike to work, my daily one way trip is @ 35 miles. Been looking for work closer to home, figure I could take a $200 month cut with the difference in gas savings. Not much luck yet.
That may be true, but considering that the crude oil prices actually DROPPED yesterday while gas stations were raising the prices more than 25% it leaves oil companies with some questions to answer... that is if the governments were interested in answers.
Yes, overall the price of crude over the past week is up (it started the week at $65 and was at $68 yesterday), but that 5% increase in crude costs does not add up to a 25% increase at the pumps. There was a so-called "independent oil buttstuffyst" on TV yesterday that was just stammering for answers as the localk news anchor was asking him questions.
Steve Murphy (the news anchor) asked "Why does the gas that's already in the tanks under the stations cost 25% more"
The buttstuffyst had no answer.
Steve said "Why did the prices go up on a day that the price of crude went down?"
The buttstuffyst started with the typical "well, it takes awhile for reductions in prices to trickle down, and a drop of a dollar a barrel only corresponds to a few cents at the pumps..."
Steve interrupted: "Wait a minute - if it takes awhile for the changes to trickle down to the retail level why did gas skyrocket almost before the hurricane was even finished?"
The buttstuffyst had no answer
Steve then asked: And if a dollar change only adds up to a few cents at the pumps, why does a three dollar change result in a 25% jump at the pumps?"
The buttstuffyst, at this point, finally (but very carefully) conceded that "some oil companies may be taking advantage of the perceived shortage".
Now then, we Canadians know which ones those "some oil companies" represent. Petro Canada, Imperial Oil, and Irving oil refine all of the gas we use in eastern Canada. They refine it, so they get to set the prices. They also own individual stations and jack the prices up there. And since they control the wholesale prices (even their competitors must buy the bulk gas from them) even their competitors must raise the prices, because they can't sell for less than wholesale.
That sounds like good ol' gouging to me. I think the s should be strung up by their intestines and put on public display so the people can spit on their disemboweled corpses.
there is an economic factor in selling what you have in stock at current market prices no matter what you paid, look at computer parts, you buy instock a new video card for 250, your price, then 2 months later it hasn't sold, and the retail price is under that 250, you can actually make money by selling it at a lose and replaceing stock with cheaper stock.
BUT, this won't effect oil supplies as most of our oil comes from canada and russia, NOT the gulf of mexico. Aslo, the oil companies are the MOST profitable companies in the US, they can take a small hit and still be very very profitable. AND, why is canadian gas affected, they use no foreign oil, and none from the gulf of mexico, it is just plain gouging or companies pushing market prices around for profit, and something needs to be done about it.
yeah chrude oil prices went up but are the refineries running that were hit by the storm. are the oil rigs in the ocien still there. no right now there shut down. so of corse thats gonna raise prices because there not making there full production numbers so higher the price the less some will spend or none at all so there is more gas for someone elts. also they are thinking there might be a gas shortage. and i belive that can actually happen.
We've all been had! Everyone ran out to get gas last night while it was still cheap. Ange saw about 20 cars lined up when she went, and saw over 30 at another station on the way there. She got Supreme for 97c, because Esso ran out of regular and midgrade.
But when we look at the prices today, they're on average actually cheaper than yesterday! It's bullshiznit, and we were gullible enough to fall for it. Everyone in NA just went out and spent a shiznitLOAD on gasoline for no reason at all.
****, but I'm sick of oil. Bring on the canola!
Edmonton
Today-Yesterday-One Week Ago-One Month Ago-One Year Ago
99.787--99.976------100.585--------90.831--------77.322
Canada
Today-Yesterday-One Week Ago-One Month Ago-One Year Ago
109.530-108.435-----103.435--------95.157--------83.296
Not here, if you didn't get gas yesterday, you won't be able to walk straight for a week.
For regular:
Yesterday 2.51 One year ago 1.89 Two years ago 1.19 TODAY 3.09
Gas has never been more expensive here, and we have (always had) the lowest prices in the US (new jersey). However in retrospect, we're finally paying over here what Kalifornny has been for almost 2 years now.
i agree with what i could actually read from this guy :giggle:
he is right though, we could have all the crude oil in the world, we'll still have a gasoline shortage because we have very few refineries, hell, a boycott would probably would be more helpful for the company than hurtful, since theyd be able to have a supply of gas back up
but do you think theyd tell the public that they had some gas reserves now? hell no, theyll let them thing its a shortage, and keep selling it for the high price
Off Topic But..... That shiznit runs good in a TC huh?? When I had the 5.0 Mustang I kept hunting a low speed bucking problem. After filling up at the Amoco station instead of Exxon I was frequenting, my bucking dissappeared. That was over 9 years ago and I've bought Exxon exactly twice since then, both times I was away from home and got just enought to make it to a Shell or Amoco...
ive run Shell, Texaco, BP (made from tree leaves or some shiznit), and Crown, Crown ran good, but when i switched to Exxon, my car felt like it had some balls, like another cylinder jumped in there, and 2 more psi
i hope gas prices come down a bit soon being the end of summer and all. i think (sorry to all american members of the board) that canada should close the borader to oil since were one of the biggest oil produceing contries in the world. our prices would come down alot i saw gas for 1.35/Liter today
Z
I have had the same problems with both my 5.0's and in my tempo. I stopped going there after leaving the pump unatended and hit 27 1/2 gallons. I think that the water down the gas too.
Around here the speedway gas seams to run best, (whoever makes it). But any of the small town stations that buy form Bazel oil (Local?) seem to have the worst gas. I put twenty bucks of sunoco gas in and it seems to have lasted as long or longer than the citgo and the car idles better.