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Title: Custom burned chips
Post by: 1badchicken on August 29, 2005, 11:20:57 PM
I need  to find some1 who burns chips to specifics. I mean to the mods on my car. Help.
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: greg wys on August 30, 2005, 06:02:32 AM
I'll ask my brother who burned his chip for his 05 cobra and get back with you
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: Chuck W on August 30, 2005, 08:01:25 AM
Well, since not all can be burned...you need to be more specific on what you actually have.  What mods are done to the car? 

Besides, unlesss you have a chip flashed while testing the car on the dyno, you don't really know if the tune is going to work for you.  Regardless of if two engines are built with the same components, they still won't use exactly the same tune.
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: Bob on August 30, 2005, 09:08:21 AM
what mods you got on your car 1badchicken?
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: Tbird232ci on August 30, 2005, 12:47:26 PM
the only cars you can get chips for a car with the A9 processors, which is a mass air, HO mustang computer
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: Funky Cricket on August 30, 2005, 01:03:41 PM
and you can always use a program like twEECer instead of a custom chip.
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: Mercoug302 on August 30, 2005, 05:19:47 PM
http://www.blueovalchips.com
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: 1badchicken on August 30, 2005, 10:49:57 PM
Ok guys, heres all I got.
    First off its an 88 5.0 speed density. I wasnt sure if I can even purchase anything for that computer to begin with.  Here's why i ask about the chip. 
    If i'm at a dead stop and turn left and hammer it as to slide the car a little bit, it will bog out and when the car gets level (a mere second later) it picks right back up and boogies.  I'm not to fuel injection savvy so I spoke to my boss who is the owner of G Body Parts which is a dealer in Grand National parts and he said to through 8 GN injectors in it which are 28lb-ers because the problem is that the car is leaning out at the higher RPM.  He told me to get a chip made so i can run the injectors with all my other mods without a problem. 
    I have BBK shorties with a cat-less BBK h-pipe and flowmasters, explorer intake and 65mm t/b, underdrive pulley, electric fan, Cool air intake and a T/C rear with 3.55's
What do i need?
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: Bob on August 30, 2005, 11:23:20 PM
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I'm not to fuel injection savvy so I spoke to my boss who is the owner of G Body Parts which is a dealer in Grand National parts and he said to through 8 GN injectors in it which are 28lb-ers because the problem is that the car is leaning out at the higher RPM.


Don 't do that.

Is this 5.0 an HO or the stock SO 5.0 ?
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: Funky Cricket on August 31, 2005, 11:43:45 AM
yah. you basically have a mustang. this can be solved with ford parts that won't mess everything up.
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: 1badchicken on September 01, 2005, 01:30:53 PM
This isnt a HO motor to my knowledge. What Ford parts?  Whats wrong with using the 28# injectors?
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: Haystack on September 01, 2005, 02:14:02 PM
all that you really need to finish the ho converison is an ho cam shaft and the computer. That with the 19 lb fuel injectors would basically get you a stock 225hp mustang engine and fix all of your woes
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: EricCoolCats on September 01, 2005, 02:29:44 PM
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If i'm at a dead stop and turn left and hammer it as to slide the car a little bit, it will bog out and when the car gets level (a mere second later) it picks right back up and boogies.


Change the fuel filter lately?
How about a fuel pressure test?
Scan the computer for codes?

Could be a bad TPS, EGR, O2, etc.

It would be wise to cover the basics first before throwing money around on a chip that may not solve the problem...
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: Bob on September 01, 2005, 03:41:26 PM
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Whats wrong with using the 28# injectors?


could you imagine what 28# injectors would run like with a EEC cal'd for 14#ers...
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on September 01, 2005, 09:12:46 PM
Quote from: 1badchicken
This isnt a HO motor to my knowledge. What Ford parts?  Whats wrong with using the 28# injectors?


It'll run like shiznit and go about half as far on twice as much gas...

The bogging problem is because something is wrong, not because the injectors are to small(well they are too small if you want to make any real power, but you'll have to swap computers & cam, if you want to use larger injectors)... As far as a chip for your computer... it ain't happnin'.

You already have part of the makings for a HO engine. You should consider doing the HO upgrade with Mass Air. A good set of aluminum heads will make a huge difference, with the larger injectors and computer.

Also you said the problem was when turning left, is that the only time??? How much gas you have in it??? These tanks are 22gal., when they have only 6-7 gal of gas it's possible to get a bog under certain conditions.
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: 1badchicken on September 01, 2005, 09:35:45 PM
You guys are amazing!  Does the mass-air conversion require a WHOLE harness and computer?  I can just pull it off any HO motor right?
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: Haystack on September 02, 2005, 01:45:35 AM
I wouldnt go mass air unless you are looking for major mods. Also it is easy to convert to mass air down the line. You should have to use the harness and you will need the computer. For non mass air you will want 87-88 for mass air go with 89-93. As far as a mark computer, mark 7 that is, they have speed limiters of like 106 mph.
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: Tbird232ci on September 02, 2005, 09:21:31 AM
the Mark computer is speed density

all you need is a conversion harness, and a MAF computer for a Mustang, preferable an 89-93, as they have a more aggressive tune than the 94-95's

if you search for something like "mustang MAF conversion" on google, youll probably find a good how to on the subject
Title: Re: Custom burned chips
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on September 02, 2005, 04:20:23 PM
Quote from: 1badchicken
You guys are amazing!  Does the mass-air conversion require a WHOLE harness and computer?  I can just pull it off any HO motor right?


As far as wiring here is all you need.

If you are thinking CAM or HEADS I'd definatly go with the Mass Air.  Ebay is also full of A9L - A9P EECs and Air meters you will need.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mustang-Ford-Mass-Air-Flow-Conversion-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33598QQitemZ7997006980QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW