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Title: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: cougrrr302 on August 27, 2005, 11:31:29 AM
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=eadvsearch.asp&SearchType=Engine

It says all you do is pay 200 bucks and everything swaps out. What about the Rear??
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: cougarman on August 27, 2005, 11:37:09 AM
link no workey. ;)
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Ether947 on August 27, 2005, 11:39:03 AM
Link doesn't show anything. I assume you mean this,
 (http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/fms-m-1126-a_w.jpg).

It'll work if you have a 83-85 1/2 Bird/Cougar or a Mustang rear end. That's the kit I used.
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Chuck W on August 27, 2005, 06:58:55 PM
Quote from: darkthunder
Link doesn't show anything. I assume you mean this,
 (http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/fms-m-1126-a_w.jpg).

It'll work if you have a 83-85 1/2 Bird/Cougar or a Mustang rear end. That's the kit I used.

Those axles were the same length as what you took out of there? Or did you move everything in?  I'm pretty sure they're shorter.
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: cougrrr302 on August 28, 2005, 01:39:49 AM
thats not the one. here

FMS-M-2026-C $199.95
Estimated Ship Date:  9/9/05
  Application  Show All 

Brand: Ford Racing Performance Parts
Product Line: Ford Racing Front Brake Rotor Kits
Intended for Street Use: Yes
For Use with Stock Calipers: Yes
Rotor Construction: Vented
Rotor Style: Cross-drilled and slotted surface
Rotor Outside Diameter (in): 11.65
Rotor Material: Iron
Rotor Finish: Natural
Quantity: Sold as a pair.

Brake Rotors, Cross-Drilled/Slotted, Iron, Natural Finish, Rear, Left/Right, Ford, Mustang, Pair

Check to make sure this part fits your application
Change your front rotors to 5-lug types, so you can switch to the wheels you want.
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 This is the only pic i could get of it.
(http://tinypic.com/b8qpsk.jpg)
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Ether947 on August 28, 2005, 08:56:35 AM
Quote from: Chuck W
Those axles were the same length as what you took out of there? Or did you move everything in? I'm pretty sure they're shorter.

Yep. But I have rear out of a Mustang. Which I compared to the rear I pulled from the Bird and they were indentical.

Cougarrr302 - that kit's description is kinda odd. In the title it says it's for the front and in the middle it says it's for the rear. Nevertheless it is still for SN-95 Stangs so no it won't kit without all the other corresponding SN-95 components (spindles, brackets, calipers...).

This kit will work if you have TC or Mustang V8 spindles.
(http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/fms-m-1102-c.jpg)
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=partdetail.asp&autofilter=1&part=FMS%2DM%2D1102%2DC&N=400070+302864&autoview=sku (http://"http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=partdetail.asp&autofilter=1&part=FMS%2DM%2D1102%2DC&N=400070+302864&autoview=sku")

Eric knows of a rotor kit for 10 inch guys, I just don't remember the link at the moment.
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: cougarman on August 28, 2005, 10:01:34 AM
MK VII rotors will also work, actually thats what those look like. ;)
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Chuck W on August 28, 2005, 11:19:47 AM
Quote from: darkthunder
Yep. But I have rear out of a Mustang. Which I compared to the rear I pulled from the Bird and they were indentical.



The housing itself, or the overall axle length?

There is just to much freakiness with these things if so, as those would have been too short to work on my 83-84 rear axles.  Yes the housings are the same length, but in both instances, the axles themselves were the same length as the SN-95 (94-98) stuff.....which are longer than the Fox pieces......
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Ether947 on August 28, 2005, 11:52:36 AM
Housing and axles... not unless someone put a Stang rear in it before I bought it. Which isn't entirely out of the question seeing how the K-member is from a stang to and I never new it until I can to this board and realized that stangs and birds have different motor mounts. lol. I could grab an axle from the yard one day and compare just to make sure.
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: cougrrr302 on August 28, 2005, 01:26:33 PM
Well thanks guys. Im not ready yet for a conversion if I do it. In the end I'll probably find a new rear end.
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Chuck W on August 28, 2005, 01:36:43 PM
Quote from: darkthunder
Housing and axles... not unless someone put a Stang rear in it before I bought it. Which isn't entirely out of the question seeing how the K-member is from a stang to and I never new it until I can to this board and realized that stangs and birds have different motor mounts. lol. I could grab an axle from the yard one day and compare just to make sure.


Is yours an 85 or 86?

I bet the Mustang axles assy was swapped as a whole....
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Ether947 on August 28, 2005, 07:00:33 PM
Quote from: Chuck W
Is yours an 85 or 86?

I bet the Mustang axles assy was swapped as a whole....

85.

Cougarrr, sounds like a good idea. Good luck with it. :)
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Haystack on August 28, 2005, 10:18:38 PM
if it was an 85 it was prolly stock. Didnt the 83-851/2 have the mustang motor mounts too?
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: cougrrr302 on August 28, 2005, 11:34:06 PM
Well it will be a project for another time. Probably years in the future. There are other things I want done before that.
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Chuck W on August 28, 2005, 11:49:38 PM
Quote from: Haystack
if it was an 85 it was prolly stock.


I am going to say doubtful.....we've gone through this discussion before...same housing, longer axles....
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Ether947 on September 05, 2005, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: Chuck W
I am going to say doubtful.....we've gone through this discussion before...same housing, longer axles....

Chuck you were right, same housing different axles/drums. I'll post pics later. :)
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Ether947 on September 05, 2005, 10:36:22 AM
First pic is the Fox Mustang rear with stock axles. Second pic is the TBird rear with stock axles. Third pic is the Mustang and Tbird axles side by side. Obviously the Bird axles are the longer ones. The axles are interchangeable between the two housing, you just need the corresponding drums to complete the swap.
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Ether947 on September 05, 2005, 10:39:07 AM
Drum comparo. TBird drum has the noticeable recess to accommodate the longer axles.
Title: Re: Anybody try this 5 lug conversion?
Post by: Chuck W on September 05, 2005, 12:19:28 PM
Yup, that's how it is on the 83-85's.  :D

If you had an 86 you'd have the odd-ball housing.

Again, just for reference.  Those TBird axles are the same length as the 94-98 Mustang ones too....