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hehe...."Bubba Drift"
Who else thinks drifting is pointless...raise your hand....
[Me me me me!]
Well its more intersting then watching two cars drive in a straight line. And take more talent than driving in a straight line.
Hey, it takes talent to drive straight! Especially when your car pulls left all the time.
Sorry I sould have made it more clear. I was talking more in terms of the professional stand point.
raises hand
Retarded pseudo-sport.
What really amazes me is that kids will actively seek a RWD ricer (hard to find) and spend thousands to make it able to drift...when they could have bought a Mustang/Camaro/Cougar, kept it stock, and be better off.
it amazes me how the ricer crowd thinks this is new.. ever seen a trans-am race? especially from the 70's? or a rally race? or a off road truck race? or me getting to school on time in high school?
I don't think it is "that" lame. and it is cool to watch, I an know for a fact it is fun to do. just that why spend 30K on a supra or some other car when you can get a 500 dollar american muscle car and have more hp and get it sideways MUCH easier.
and why "drifting' i just thought it was called a power slide, or letting the rear hang out?
Domestics don't drift, they do powerslides. ;) It's nothing new. We've been drifting since the first RWD car had more power than traction.
And any sport that has subjective judging, like figure skating, is hardly a sport at all. Most of all motorsport. Drifting is the slowest way around a track that wastes a huge amount of money. It's the ballroom dancing of the automotive world. You can keep it. I'd rather cut a line than 'kiss' the wall. :rolleyes:
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I agree on that one. You can't tell me it wouldn't be fun to go around a track at least one trying to slide the car around the corners.
is that a screen cap from bullit?
:iagree: Watching drag racing on TV is about as entertaining as watching a pie bake. Going to the races is a whole different story. :) Drifting is pretty cool, I wouldn't do it in my car though.
People spend considerable amounts of money on their show cars just to look good, I don't see how spending money (regardless of amount) on a car for drifting would be any different.
Yup. :D
Sure, powerslides are a shiznitload of fun. It's just not a motorsport. More like recreation.
drifting is a bit different than a power slide, because even cars without power can drift, you have to know what youre doing
and power slides generally arnt controlled nearly as well as a real drift
Toyo has an 05 Mustang to drift. You can go to thier website and enter to win it. :D
You've got to love that gargantuan spoiler on a car that needs LESS rear end grip. gah...
*Raises hands....all 4 of them*
Drifting sucks and is not a legitimate form of motorsports....It's like water ballet is to competitive swimming... :rolleyes:
Yes I can....I'd have more fun keeping all 4 tires in traction and putting the power down and getting around that course as fast as I could....you can keep your "style points"
Yup, that goes to show the idiocy of it all.....
Well thats where G4Tech TV comes in they prolly paid for a good amount of the stuff done to it, and if anyone has seen the "whip set" you will know where im going with this post.
*I'm raising my hand as far as it goes*
Honestly I love sliding corners but controlling it just for tire smoke to win some cash. I'd rather lose in a pink slip race. Plus drifting is legal. Powersliding is more fun for the rush and the fact that you have to try and gain control or your going into the curb.
If I won that thing I would sell it and put the profits to good use. What an abomination of a fine automobile! :yuck: :toilet: :barf:
No kidding
I concur, drifting is pretty ghey. My brother has a 240SX and is all about the drifting junk...and yeah, I don't really get it. I'd much rather watch brackets than a drifting competition.
*shrugs*
I'd rather have something I could use on the street. Drifting, no use. High speed cornering, no use. Acceleration/braking, plenty of use (especially with how many times lately people have began turning into my lane without looking). Even more true now that it seems everyone's driving 10 under the speedlimit on highways this summer (between ~9am-8pm, where its faster before/after those hours)
funny, i use that all the time
I know the guy in the El Camino, his name is Mike and he is form Houston. I met him at the race track here in La. at an open road course and drift session, he was a interesting person to talk to and a really good driver. His has a suppercharged LS1 in that thing and it hauls azz........and burns alot of rubber to!
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This is like nascar guys arguing with F1 Guys. Left turn guys vs road course guys.
I've tried a lil drifiting in a racing simulator. Harder than it looks :P
Maybe it's mounted upside-down, so it actually lifts the rear end off the ground. :grinno:
yeh...like that one time u took that left to sharp and almost put us into the curb? :D
oh and *raises hand* drifting is just pointless to me, its nothing more then what ricers do already except they do stupid shiznit like this in traffic on the street.
yah, that is one thing i don't get about ricers, we "raced" when I was in school, but that was on back dirt roads in 4x4's or just power sliding back road corners with no one around, but these kids do this stuff in traffic on a downtown street.. makes NO sense to endanger everyone else. I have no qualms about killing yourself but don't take out a soccer mom with an suv full of kids with you cause you had to get your cool on in front of the local walmart at 8 at night when everyone is shopping.
but i didnt hit the curb now did i? :hick:
Hey all,
Me and my buddies were 'drifting' about 15 to 20 years ago on gravel roads (which were in abundance where we lived). They just hadn't made up the word yet. I could hang the tail out in my '77 Cougar (Duke-boys style) all day and never lost it once. Mind you, I wasn't sliding from an over-abundance of HP, just a severe lack of traction and that ole' centrifugal (?) force theory. It was even more fun in a FWD (Chevy Citation). It was a hoot on a gravel road (again!). I could just pop the wheel back and forth and stay on the gas and cross it up at will. It was like there were tracks imbedded in the road. How much $$ do those guys go through in tires? I'm just jealous that I can't afford the HP to drag, oval-track, drift or anything right now.
Hey, did anybody catch the episode of Monster Garage where Jesse and his team took a brand new 350Z and hacked it up and put the drivetrain and most of the suspension in an old 240Z. He even broke down by the end of the show and admitted drifting was fun (he thought it was a little 'you-know', too).
Oh, I really like the El Camino, too!
Fordman3
yah, i got yelled by my folks cause i tripped the gas pump safty switch in my moms probe sliding it around back dirt roads.
i like the term whipping $#itiesor doing donuts
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Notice the name on the side, the back, and the rear window?
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Yeah..so it says "Saleen".... who gives a ? He's a hack anyway....
i was thinking Macdonalds but who needs a Big Mac when your spinning the back tires
High-speed cornering is far from useless. Try taking an exit ramp without it and crash your car into a tree.
To a degree. Speed limits are there for a reason...I don't like endangering myself OR other people. There's no reason to go around corners at double the posted speed.
Or maybe the roads around here are just easy compared to elsewhere. I'm all for usability and thats it. Won't spend money on something I'll never use. Only time I'd need to make a high speed turn would be if my brakes go out or an accident happens 200ft in front of my car.
Of course, before all else, practice/training takes all. Just look at the cobra video posted last week. Too much power, too little brain
yeah...too little brain...when the guy made a simple mistake, when he's normally at the track, i guess he should be put in jail, or lynched over a mistake
youre correct about practice/training, but how many of us have access to a driving school, the money for driving school, or a place to go learn?
which is exactly why I don't drive crazy on the street. Something will always go wrong given enough time
Hah! Saleen is a hack. For a huge fee, he'll slap on the most useless 100hp you've ever seen in a Mustang that for some reason can't out-perform a stock GT. $23,054 is a lot of money for a useless supercharger and some extra plastic on the outside.
http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=26&article_id=9484
Ah, the Saleen "club". I've been to many MCA Mustang shows (another one coming up in a few weeks), and to me, Saleen owners are getting more and more like Corvette owners--uppity snobs, looking down upon the "regular" Mustang owners, as if what they own is the greatest thing since indoor plumbing. I know exactly ONE Saleen owner who is down to earth. It's a sad state of affairs in Mustang-dom when such a lukewarm car can overtake the mindset of owners. When the original Saleens came out in '84, they were truly different, and through the Fox body styles the Saleen versions were stylish and a relative bargain. Then Steve's britches got a little big, the ego swelled, and Saleen grew into a giant, uncaring conglomerate that had no problems slapping a huge price tag on a mediocre performance car. The perception of performance is what sells them...that, and the bragging rights of the owners ("I paid more for my Saleen than you did for your Mustang", etc.).
Funny thing is...every Saleen starts as a V6 model. :)
There is only one company that is truly in tune with the new Mustang: CDC (http://www.classicdesignconcepts.com/). They may not have a slew of major performance components, but one look at them leaves no doubt that the company lives and breathes Mustang....something Saleen used to do a long time ago...
ok Ill give ya that, you didnt put us into the curb, but ya did buckle the sidewalls :p
IMHO saleens and roushes are overpriced for what they are. they both come with body kits and wheels and not alot more (unless its like the stage 3 roush) but other then that its still just basically a stock gt...
Wow, I thought I was the only one that thought that.
Once again, you validated my thoughts just like you did when I discovered your site six years ago.
I like the European road rally type racing where they take cars that are much closer in resemblance to their stock versions than our NASCAR "stock cars" and race them over various types of surfaces that require different degrees of "drifting" or whatever to get through the turns and stuff.
yah, but with rally racing, that is the fastest way around the course. and I love WRC and the SCCA Rally, and UKRC.. but alas, i no longer get speed vision..
Don't worry, you're not missing much...it's the NASCAR Channel now...
I'll be glad when the season is over.....
Like it would matter. They'll just show another NASCAR celeb golf tournament, or poker game. NASCAR needs to die. :mad:
really, no more middle of the week midget series. or WRC, or goodwood? weekend Speedvis.. i mean speed channel series road racing, F1, and moto GP? Ilse of Mann? anything? just nascar (and it started before I lost it..) car or bike build up shows (which is getting lame.. lets see some ed racing.. any racing. boats, bikes, cars. two old men in walkers.. just RACE)
That Car and Driver article had the GT at 13.8 in a quarter. 2 months later, they got a CONVERTIBLE to run faster with 160 lbs more weight. Bone stock 5 speeds are running as low as 13.4's and autos running 13.6's. The article also states that some people have turned a 12.7 in the Saleen supercharged version.
It should also be noted that with the Saleen supercharger (as well as the others on the market), the new Mustang runs out of fuel injector at the top end of the rpm band.
I'm rambling.....What I'm tryin to get at is the car mags don't really push cars as hard as they could for a time slip. Every time a Magazine like MM & FF or Hot Rod runs a car that Car and Driver or Motor Trend runs, they smoke them.
Also on the Saleen car, those big stupid ugly rims aint helpin any.
Gimme the Supercharger on my mustang, but Saleen can keep the rest of the stuff they do to those cars.
Oh, they still have all of those programs. You just have to sit through six hours of NASCAR TV to see a two minute commercial on WRC. And you have to be up at three am, on a wednesday, on the other side of the moon, to catch the actual program.
http://www.speedtv.com/home.php
One look at the lineup for any given day, and you'll get your answer. ;)
Tuesday nights are bike nights...which I guess is cool (chick on the one show is hot, but nobody holds a candle to Paulie LOL). Then there's 'Pinks'...yeah, racing for pink slips. Total waste of videotape. 'Unique Whips' was cool for like, 5 minutes. Ugh. The channel has gone downhill completely bro. Like I said, you're not missing much.
The only car show that matters is on Wed. nights at 10pm on Discovery Channel: Top Gear (http://dsc.discovery.com/schedule/series.jsp?series=30445&gid=0&channel=DSC)
I want them to keep trying to kill that pickup.
I can't wait to see that one myself. Though i'm getting a sense that i've missed an episode already. Personally I think Rides and Overhaulin' on TLC are good shows as well. They tend to show more of the technical side of things without being uber "PIMP".
Rides definitely shows the technical side compared to any show other than maybe Hot Rod TV or Trucks on Spike TV. Rides and Overhaulin' are more of an enthusiast aspect. Showing you how to make your ride cool. Oh well I'll stick to it and think up my own ideas.
yah. i get 3 cable channels free with my internet (thank you lack of filters) I get discovery, tlc, and animal planet. I LOVE TOP GEAR. that show is AWESOME. i liked when he was running around with the apache helicopter. that was pretty sweet. and that nissan. that is one tough truck. i think rides, overhaulin' and top gear are the best car shows out right now (and the only ones i can get). but I think top gear is one of my all time favorite car shows. the tall host called the french "cheese eating surrender monkeys" I about fell over laughing.
yah, my dad has speed tv and i will be spending a bunch of time with him (save gas money, man this is getting ridiculous) and it was all nascar all the time. nascar golf, nascar talk shows, nascar talk shows, nascar talk shows, bush replay, nascar talk shows, and then some stupid "we have a moron non-mechanic and a prick shop ower build a bike" show. very sad. and I saw an add for WRC for sunday night at 11 pm. nice. i can really watch that... jerks. like i want to see 4 good ol' boys chat about rubbin paint for 4 hours. I LIKE nascar, but lately.. ugh.
Well speedvision is dead to me now. I have not had Satelite TV since I moved out on my own and I was looking at getting a satelite next year to specifically watch speed. Well I guess I'm goin' to cable ugh!!
If you do get satelite tv, avoid dish network like the plague. Direct Tv is pretty good and get a good basic package that has speedvision in it.
Heed my advice we used to have Dn and it sucked.