Technical => Body/Appearance/Interior => Topic started by: cougrrr302 on August 03, 2005, 02:32:46 AM
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: cougrrr302 on August 03, 2005, 02:32:46 AM
Has anyone thought of a Cougar mixed with a Cobra R? The hood scoop, wing, engine, suspension, exhaust. I came up with some logos as a starter for it. If i can find another cougar, then i will instantly start on it. Just need some info. Support from you guys. What do you think? (http://ct3.jpg) (http://ct2.jpg)
Title: Re: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: cougrrr302 on August 03, 2005, 02:33:14 AM
so much for photos. Soon to be there
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Post by: cougrrr302 on August 03, 2005, 02:35:13 AM
how do you load a photo on here?
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Post by: Ifixyawata on August 03, 2005, 02:41:13 AM
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Post by: Ether947 on August 03, 2005, 09:00:36 AM
I have a Thunder R concept in mind. Mostly suspension/chassis stuff. You know coil-overs, torque arm, watts, k-member, through floor subframe connectors, yadda, yadda... oh yeah Cobra R wheels and side exhaust! Even thought about piecing together a logo. Like you I still need to find another TC to even start on it. And before that I need to finish DarkThunder. *sigh*
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Post by: BEARMAX on August 03, 2005, 08:10:03 PM
I Have Thought Of My 87 Cougar With A Gt 500 Body Kit Kinda Elanor Style
Title: Re: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: cougrrr302 on August 04, 2005, 01:22:04 AM
Yea. Almost exactly what I am thinking. Upgrade all suspension, engine, and some cosmetic features of the Cobra R onto an 84 or 85 Cougar. Thats what years i wanna look into anyway if I can.
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Post by: cougrrr302 on August 04, 2005, 01:22:50 AM
I have logos already made im trying to post them.
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Post by: cougrrr302 on August 04, 2005, 01:24:48 AM
(http://tinypic.com/9vim47.jpg)
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Post by: cougrrr302 on August 04, 2005, 01:25:28 AM
(http://tinypic.com/9vimg3.jpg)
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Post by: cougrrr302 on August 04, 2005, 01:26:51 AM
Those are the two logos I designed. They incorporate both Cobra R and Cougar logos(obviously). Also the way the R overlaps the other logo. Just dont know which to choose from as the finish logo.
Title: Re: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: beaterjeep on August 24, 2005, 02:32:10 AM
I've been planning on using the cobra r wing on my cougar for quite some time now, even before I got it I knew I wanted to do it. Now that I have my cougar, all I need is the wing, which ain't too cheap.
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Post by: Tbird232ci on August 24, 2005, 12:00:24 PM
http://www.coolcats.net/photos/index.php?ID=187
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Post by: oldraven on August 24, 2005, 12:41:21 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
http://www.coolcats.net/photos/index.php?ID=187
Oh, good Lord! Please, no one use that ricer wing. It was bad enough when Ford stuck it on a Mustang. You can get a lot classier than that with spoilers.
Title: Re: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: beaterjeep on August 24, 2005, 04:25:47 PM
OK, after seeing that, I think that if I did go with that wing, I'd have a few inches cut off of it. I guess I never realized how tall it actually is!
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Post by: 88turbo on August 24, 2005, 05:21:35 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
http://www.coolcats.net/photos/index.php?ID=187
IMO I think the car would look better with some chrome cobra r's. never seen one like that but I think I like it. :hick:
Title: Re: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: cougrrr302 on August 24, 2005, 08:21:51 PM
Which logo looks better, I cant decide which way the R should overlap. Wow that wing is a little too much for my likings. I think full engine and suspension swap and definetly the side exhaust. I followed one the other day and that thing sounded so good i thought that I was gonna cream myself. As far as body mods, just a gfx kit and Cobra Rs for sure. Still looking for another Cougar though. 85 preferably. And I think I would go with Black instead of the Cobra R red. Dont know for sure.(http://tinypic.com/b4j0cm.jpg)Sorry for chopping up the pic for this, but the gfx and paint are what im shooting for and then custom hood and spoiler
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: Master_xzavior on February 15, 2006, 02:40:02 AM
just a thought but arent the cobra R grills different as well? you might want to think about a modified grill to go in it as well. perhaps put the honeycomb or mesh material in it.
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: DerikWayne on February 15, 2006, 11:32:25 AM
Quote from: cougrrr302
(http://tinypic.com/b4j0cm.jpg)
That's one badass car! I remember that car from CJ '02... man could that thing haul azz! :bowdown:
...oh, the car next to it looks pretty nice too! lol
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: srv1 on February 15, 2006, 12:48:48 PM
I'm sorry, the "Cougar R" idea is just gay. Ricers put R badges all over their car and now you are thinking about it? Cobra R wheels is cool but calling your Cougar an R model is gay. I see the R getting applied to everything from cars to merchandise. This is just my opinion. Do what YOU think and what YOU want. It is YOUR car and YOUR money. Mine thoughts are just an opinion..
James
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: RTStabler51 on February 15, 2006, 12:57:27 PM
Quote from: oldraven
Oh, good Lord! Please, no one use that ricer wing. It was bad enough when Ford stuck it on a Mustang. You can get a lot classier than that with spoilers.
How is a functional[/b] wing 'ricey'?
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: srv1 on February 15, 2006, 01:07:44 PM
Quote from: RTStabler51
How is a functional[/b] wing 'ricey'?
Functional? How? That wing was wind tunnel tested on a 00 Cobra R not a Cougar. Besides why would anyone want to have a riced wing? Heck I dont like them on the Mustang, but it works. I dont like them on and WRX Sti but it works. I don't like them on a Cougar which doesnt work properly or at all.
James
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: Chuck W on February 15, 2006, 01:17:28 PM
Hehe...looks like svr1 ate his Chuckowheats this morning...."Fortified with 12 essential daily chuckisms and minerals"
I agree...Cougar "R"....silly......
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: Red_LX on February 15, 2006, 01:56:42 PM
Cougars and Thunderbirds can only look good with small spoilers on the trunk lid. I have a feeling either would look absolutely rediculous with a Cobra R wing on them.
Why not just concentrate on making it long, low and mean...what these cars do best?
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: RTStabler51 on February 15, 2006, 04:32:42 PM
Quote from: srv1
Functional? How? That wing was wind tunnel tested on a 00 Cobra R not a Cougar. Besides why would anyone want to have a riced wing? Heck I dont like them on the Mustang, but it works. I dont like them on and WRX Sti but it works. I don't like them on a Cougar which doesnt work properly or at all.
James
The Cobra R wing is an acquired taste, and I intially had the same response as you, until I saw and rode in one. Bottom line is it is functional. Look at some of the hardcore NASA racers and their rear wings.... (http://www.allfordmustangs.com/artman/uploads/pb085572.jpg) not the best picture, but you get the idea.
BTW, I'm not disagreeing with the 'Cougar R' idea, only the fact that the R wing is 'ricey and non-functional'
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: shame302 on February 15, 2006, 04:34:40 PM
still super ghey for a street car...
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: DreWRoolZ on February 15, 2006, 05:17:05 PM
I like the first logo the best. and yeah that spoiler looks really gay. I think the whole cobra thing might look sweet on my 1987 Tbird LX
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: CougarSE on February 15, 2006, 08:44:40 PM
Am I the only one who wonders why this post was brought back from the dead?
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: srv1 on February 15, 2006, 09:01:28 PM
Quote from: RTStabler51
The Cobra R wing is an acquired taste, and I intially had the same response as you, until I saw and rode in one. Bottom line is it is functional. Look at some of the hardcore NASA racers and their rear wings.... (http://www.allfordmustangs.com/artman/uploads/pb085572.jpg) not the best picture, but you get the idea.
BTW, I'm not disagreeing with the 'Cougar R' idea, only the fact that the R wing is 'ricey and non-functional'
Two things to mention. NASA cars aren't really street cars, they are race cars. Some have plates on them but most of those drivers use it to the drive to and from the track. Second is those wings are not just bolted on and they take off 100 mph. They actually adjust them along with other tuning. Slapping a wing on any car doesn't make it functional. Not all NASA guys argree on a wing or a wing that big. Some say it really hurts more than it helps others say vice-versa.
James
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: RTStabler51 on February 16, 2006, 08:36:16 AM
Quote from: srv1
Two things to mention. NASA cars aren't really street cars, they are race cars. Some have plates on them but most of those drivers use it to the drive to and from the track. Second is those wings are not just bolted on and they take off 100 mph. They actually adjust them along with other tuning. Slapping a wing on any car doesn't make it functional. Not all NASA guys argree on a wing or a wing that big. Some say it really hurts more than it helps others say vice-versa.
James
For clarification, I've never debated that on a street car the wing is somewhat retarded, my beef is the whole 'non-functional' comments. Thanks for enlightening me that slapping a wing on any car doesn't make it functional, I had no idea! *note sarcasm* As we have been discussion, specifically the Cobra R wing is functional! And thats it! There are articles out there on it. And almost all the 00 R drivers use there cars for racing and only keep the the functional pieces on them. Guess what you see on all their cars? THE WINGS! Some, because their cars are too low, remove the front splitters, but the wings are still there. If they were NOT functional that would hav been the first thing yanked off by those guys.
Per Car and Driver (http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=39&article_id=3206&page_number=1) (just a quick search) "The new version has a massive, functional (but nonadjustable) rear wing,.."
Same thing was asked few years back at SVT Performance... (http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6949&highlight=Wing+Function)
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: yellow86coogr on February 23, 2006, 06:20:42 PM
I absolutely love the wing on my car, and bought it before you could get an R wing, I like it, and could really care less if anyone does not. As for looking ricey,m whatever, I don't think so. I also know my wing is functional too. At 65 on the highway in the rain, it splatters water on the back window from underneath the wing. I also plan on raising the wing another two inches, or more if they had the extension for it, in the future. Next time I consider what car to buy, or modify, I'll look one of you up...................NOT!:D :sleep: And have a nice day.
(http://users.adelphia.net/~weasle/DSC0003.jpg)
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: oldraven on February 24, 2006, 02:04:16 PM
I'm so happy for you. You can play with whatever toys you want, but not everyone is going to like it.
I happen to think cowl hoods are one of the ugliest, generic, and often riciest things you can put on a street car. But that's my taste. Half the guys on this board either have a cowl hood or want one. All the power to them. Same goes for your Cobra R wing. I'm glad it works for you. You'd never catch something that obtrusive on my car though.
Like was said before, the lines on these cars don't gel with a shelf spoiler that stands up that high, not to mention the shapes are way off. And the wing was wind tunnel tested for the Cobra R, not the 83-86 Cougar. It was designed to work with a fastback, not vertical rear glass.
Bottom line, it's your car. Fill yer boots. Just don't get all pissy when someone decides not to love it. There are probably things about my car that you don't particularly like. I can accept that. I drive a mulletmobile, remember. I catch more flack than you could ever know. The difference is, I chalk it up to personal taste and don't let it bother me.
Have a rice day. :)
Yes, I'm an asshole today.
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: oldraven on February 24, 2006, 02:12:35 PM
On a side note, who thinks the Superbird wing looks cool? It's funcional, yes, and it has historical signifigance. Personally, I think it looks ridiculous, and would look even worse on a 1955 Chrysler 300.
BTW, Nice Mach. I've never seen one that wasn't in red. :headbang:
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: srv1 on February 24, 2006, 05:47:00 PM
Quote from: oldraven
I'm so happy for you. You can play with whatever toys you want, but not everyone is going to like it.
I happen to think cowl hoods are one of the ugliest, generic, and often riciest things you can put on a street car. But that's my taste. Half the guys on this board either have a cowl hood or want one. All the power to them. Same goes for your Cobra R wing. I'm glad it works for you. You'd never catch something that obtrusive on my car though.
Like was said before, the lines on these cars don't gel with a shelf spoiler that stands up that high, not to mention the shapes are way off. And the wing was wind tunnel tested for the Cobra R, not the 83-86 Cougar. It was designed to work with a fastback, not vertical rear glass.
Bottom line, it's your car. Fill yer boots. Just don't get all pissy when someone decides not to love it. There are probably things about my car that you don't particularly like. I can accept that. I drive a mulletmobile, remember. I catch more flack than you could ever know. The difference is, I chalk it up to personal taste and don't let it bother me.
Have a rice day. :)
Yes, I'm an asshole today.
That was what I was trying to say except for the mulletmobile. I don't own one:D
James
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: shame302 on February 24, 2006, 06:40:36 PM
well at least he has got a nice mach 1....
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: EricCoolCats on February 24, 2006, 07:05:44 PM
Victor's car looks MUCH better in person with that wing. I'm neutral on the looks and functionality of the Cobra R wing myself. Sometimes I think it's Ford just giving into a fad, but then if stupid wings weren't all the rage, this one would definitely be one of the classier ones. It was not designed out of haste...there was definitely thought put into it, and on the real Cobra R it's claimed to actually work at track speeds.
I like to say that if you talk the talk, you should be able to walk the walk...in other words, nothing tacked onto the car that isn't functional. Then I went and put a ed cowl hood on the car, with no high-rise intake! D'oh...I hate when that happens.
(At least now I have the tall valve covers and intake spacer...so that means I'm now using the cowl hood for extra clearance). ;)
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: Beau on February 24, 2006, 07:49:01 PM
To each their own...I guess if I don't like the way someone's car looks...well, hope they don't get all pissy when I walk off... At least he hasn't got plastic GFX and duct tape holiong it on! :D If he enjoys it, then job well done, he didn't build the car for MY pleasure ;)
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Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on February 25, 2006, 07:38:54 PM
hmmm...
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: cougrrr302 on February 26, 2006, 06:58:30 PM
Im trying to figure out where you came up with the idea of me using the spoiler. I want a stock looking spoiler. Body wise all I want is the spoiler and body kit of that Cougar I pictured, a custom hood integrating the TC scoops(functional), and the grill will have some work, kinda like Eric's but chrome still but the middle blacked out. Kind of a floating emblem type of style. And I changed the name to Project Cougrrr. So its not "gay" anymore anyways. Plus I like that name better. Sounds mean. Thanks to all the lovers and the haters. To each his own. Let me know what you think.
Title: Concept "Cougar R"
Post by: Weasle on February 26, 2006, 10:11:27 PM
Hey Victor how are you doing man? Long time no see...