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Technical => Electrical Tech => Topic started by: vinnietbird on May 06, 2018, 12:15:24 PM

Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: vinnietbird on May 06, 2018, 12:15:24 PM
First, I'm using the factory Sport tach in my car. Not aftermarket.

I hooked up an MSD Street Fire ignition kit. It has a gray wire that states it goes to the tach. I didn't hook it up, and now I have no tach. (1988 SPORT).

Which wire is the tach wire under the hood so I can hook it up?
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: vinnietbird on May 06, 2018, 12:42:19 PM
OK....I'm told it's the green wire to the coil......but there are two green wires. Does it matter which one?
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: vinnietbird on May 06, 2018, 02:11:14 PM
OK....I tried touching the MSD wire to both green wires to the coil....one at a time. either way...no start, no run.
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: vinnietbird on May 06, 2018, 03:50:29 PM
Nevermind....I pulled it. It needs a tach adapter to work the tach and I'm not in the mood to mess with that. SO, it is brand new and on the bench.
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: 50RACER on May 06, 2018, 09:34:55 PM
I don't know if you've looked at the D.U.I. distributors, but they are great. It is basically a GM high output distributor modified to work with Ford, or any other brands. I used one on my race car for a lot of years with no problems. Much less hassle to hook up as well. You've got a hot wire and a tach wire and that's it.

http://performancedistributors.com/
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: vinnietbird on May 07, 2018, 08:11:45 AM
Not worth replacing the distributor. Mine has literally 100 miles on it. I pulled the ignition box and harness back off the car and stuck it on the work bench.
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: Aerocoupe on May 07, 2018, 04:11:14 PM
Yeah, all the stock Ford Fox tachs needed this adapter for the MSD ignition.  I am pretty sure the other Ford cars of this era did too but I do not have any experience with them.  Have you looked out on http://www.okdhm.com to see if anyone has one of these laying around for $20 they want to get rid of?
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: vinnietbird on May 08, 2018, 07:44:15 AM
I have decided to let the box be bench decor at this time. I appreciate the replies.
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: jcassity on May 08, 2018, 11:18:01 AM
sorry i missed this,,, ive been piddling all morning here and could have chimed in earlier if i had noticed... hope all is ok
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: thunderjet302 on May 08, 2018, 12:58:29 PM
Why the MSD box Vinnie? We have similar setups and stock Motorcraft stuff works great for me.
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: vinnietbird on May 09, 2018, 08:05:46 AM
I was going to try it. I got the whole MSD kit in a trade from a local car friend. Distributor, coil, Street Fire box, harness and wires. No loss if I don't use it. It'll be fine on the bench at this point.
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: vinnietbird on May 09, 2018, 08:06:55 AM
Quote from: jcassity;465626
sorry i missed this,,, ive been piddling all morning here and could have chimed in earlier if i had noticed... hope all is ok

All is good. I was hoping the gray wire from the box didn't need a tach adapter, but apparently it does. I'm not investing any money into it.
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: thunderjet302 on May 09, 2018, 01:38:29 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;465654
I was going to try it. I got the whole MSD kit in a trade from a local car friend. Distributor, coil, Street Fire box, harness and wires. No loss if I don't use it. It'll be fine on the bench at this point.

I don't think you'll notice any improvement vs. stock Motorcraft components. The stock stuff is actually quite overbuilt and can handle a bunch more than either of our cars have.
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: vinnietbird on May 10, 2018, 08:04:28 AM
I am using an aftermarket distributor. My factory piece gave out a long time ago. I'd like to have an NOS distributor, not rebuilt, but in the meantime, I have what I have, an MSD Street Fire distributor. I also have a brand new billet DUI hot forged distributor on the shelf. It came with two TFI modules, one for an auto, one for a 5 speed. I may swap it in just because I have it.
Title: MSD ignition box......now no tach....
Post by: marianadeeps on June 08, 2018, 05:02:40 PM
This is an interesting thread.  I was just wondering if anyone had installed a fully electronic ignition in our birds.  Rip out the dizzy and plug the hole?  It would be sweet to just dial in timing on the fly.  Not sure if there are other advantages worth the money i.e. performance.