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Title: Hmm this is interesting
Post by: thunderjet302 on February 05, 2016, 05:25:09 PM
So my wife and I have been casually looking at 4 door mid/full size sedans. We've been looking at front wheel drive sedans as we are looking for something that I won't get the itch to "mod", other wise the obvious answer is 5.7 Charger R/T (even though I'm weary of Chrysler products as they tend to be POS cars). We're looking to buy something in late 2016 or early 2017, around the time her Mustang goes back to sitting for the winter. The front runner thus far has been the Accord V6 due to it being affordable (~32K) and pretty  quick for a FWD mid size car (0-60 in 5.8 seconds is only .4 seconds behind the Thunderbird). However Ford has thrown a wrench in the plans: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/detroit-auto-show/news/a27866/2017-ford-fusion-sport-debuts-detroit/

2017 Fusion Sport has a 2.7 twin-turbo V6 with 325hp and all wheel drive for a projected $34k. I'm thinking wait it out and see if their are any reliability issues but it looks pretty  tempting. It should be a  rocket and practical to boot. I'm really hoping it drives better than the Accord V6, so as to make it an easier decision ;)
Title: Hmm this is interesting
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on February 05, 2016, 07:04:22 PM
Schweet...
Title: Hmm this is interesting
Post by: 50tbrd88 on February 05, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
Wow, sounds impressive.  My wife had a 2010 Fusion Sport that we absolutely loved.  It was quick for a v6 fwd sedan, but this takes the cake.

We have two kids and our Fusion just didn't seem to have enough interior space (I'm 6' 4" and had to drive with my knees in the dash so our kids car seat would fit), otherwise I'd be looking into one of these next time we trade cars
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Post by: jandmmustangs on February 06, 2016, 06:56:16 AM
Check out the new fusions. The interiors are cavernous. The cars are fairly quick with the 2.0 ecoboost and awd is an option. Sadly, there is no longer a manual transmission option available. 2014 was the last year for the stick. My wife has a 14 fusion se sport 1.6 ecoboost and 6 speed manual. Extremely fun car to make the daily commute.
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Post by: Bird of Prey on February 06, 2016, 10:52:41 AM
When you mentioned it was available with a six cylinder engine I had to look it up since all the current models are four cylinder only.  I agree it looks impressive.  My step-daughter's fiance has a new Fusion and the interior is very roomy and I like the simple and graceful lines of the current generation.
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on February 06, 2016, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: jandmmustangs;453710
Check out the new fusions. The interiors are cavernous. The cars are fairly quick with the 2.0 ecoboost and awd is an option. Sadly, there is no longer a manual transmission option available. 2014 was the last year for the stick. My wife has a 14 fusion se sport 1.6 ecoboost and 6 speed manual. Extremely fun car to make the daily commute.


 I will have to look into that in a few years.  Bad thing is my wife HATES the styling on the current body style.  I don't think they're too bad, but do like the look of our old 2010 better.

Right now we have a new Jeep Cherokee trail hawk.  It's not the most "handsome" vehicle on the road but has been a great vehicle so far.  I was apprehensive about buying it as I've never owned a Chrysler (fiat?!?) before, but it has really surprised us.  It gets respectable fuel Economy, is comfy, and does great in the snow.
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 06, 2016, 11:37:35 AM
My father's got a Cherokee Trailhawk. He bought it when I bought my Mustang because he was jealous that I had a new car. It's been good to him so far. Wish the opposite was true - see the "Got rear ended" thread for the things he and my mother have done to it.

I was looking at those Fusion Sports as well. The 2.7 is quite an impressive engine - it's the one the base Ecoboost Mustang should have had (and the 3.5 should have been tuned to 400+ and offered in the Mustang as well)
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Post by: Beau on February 06, 2016, 12:37:21 PM
Taurus SHO too much to be an option, or too big?

The Fusion does sound pretty neat..
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 06, 2016, 03:41:19 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;453718
Taurus SHO too much to be an option, or too big?

The Fusion does sound pretty neat..
I like the SHO - it's a beautiful car, but really cramped on the inside. A Fusion has more room (hell, a Focus probably has more room). With ~325 horses and AWD, the Fusion sport is likely quicker too
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Post by: thunderjet302 on February 06, 2016, 09:09:51 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;453718
Taurus SHO too much to be an option, or too big?

The Fusion does sound pretty neat..

Quote from: Thunder Chicken;453721
I like the SHO - it's a beautiful car, but really cramped on the inside. A Fusion has more room (hell, a Focus probably has more room). With ~325 horses and AWD, the Fusion sport is likely quicker too

This exactly. The Fusion Sport is likely to be quicker than the SHO and also about $8k cheaper. One also won't give up any interior space in the Fusion vs the Taurus.
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Post by: fast Ed on February 07, 2016, 10:18:30 AM
The 2.7 is being used in the 15-up F-150 and Edge Sport already, so it won't be an unproven engine by the time the refreshed Fusions come out.  I've had a Fusion SE FWD 1.5 Ecoboost as a work demo, very comfortable and quiet car with plenty of room.  The new Sport should be a great performer.


cheers
Ed
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Post by: thunderjet302 on February 07, 2016, 10:12:46 PM
I'm still going to wait a bit after the Fusion Sport comes out before pulling the trigger. I just want to make sure Ford works the bugs out of the redesign before I buy a brand new car. You know after the teething problems come out.

Plus I'd like to test drive one. Just to make sure I like it.
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Post by: thunderjet302 on October 06, 2016, 04:03:54 PM
Well I drove a Fusion Sport a few weeks ago. The interior is nice, rides well, and seems to be a great family sedan. The salesman let my wife and I take it for a spin alone. We got to a deserted back road and I nailed it from a stop. My first reaction was "holy shiznit!". With all wheel drive the Fusion shot off like a rocket booster rammed into the trunk lid. It's a couple ticks slower than our Mustang or Thunderbird but it's really close. It's got power and torque all over the place. The sticker is $34K on the base Fusion Sport but we could get one out the door (tax+title+license) for $32.5K. We're not going to buy one though.........

Because there are a couple issues. The biggest one is fuel economy. The Fusion Sport is rated at 17 city and 26 highway. That's less than my wife's Mustang which is rated at 19 city and 30 highway. She routinely gets 18mpg in horrible Chicago traffic. Secondly to get full power you need to run 93 octane in the Fusion Sport. It'll run on 87 octane but give up about 15hp. It's going to be more expensive to fuel the Fusion Sport than her Mustang or the Thunderbird, especially in stop and go Chicago traffic.

We're going to end up with an Accord EX-L V6 sedan. It'll end up being cheaper to operate as a daily driver, cheaper to insure, and cheaper to acquire. The Fusion 2.0T is not an option as the Accord V6 blows it out of the water from a speed stand point. The Accord will be the first non-FoMoCo car I've purchased with my own money. That's gotta say something about it's fun to drive quotient.
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Post by: Tbird232ci on October 07, 2016, 05:02:29 AM
Have you considered a Camry XLE? The V6 is actually pretty potent and is rated 21mpg city and 30mpg highway. I have a buddy who bought one and he absolutely loves it.
Title: Hmm this is interesting
Post by: thunderjet302 on October 07, 2016, 12:00:33 PM
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Have you considered a Camry XLE? The V6 is actually pretty potent and is rated 21mpg city and 30mpg highway. I have a buddy who bought one and he absolutely loves it.

The V6 Accord get similar MPG numbers, 21 city 33 highway.

The main issue with the Camry is my wife refuses to buy a Toyota because they are "cars for people who don't care about driving". Even though that pretty much describes everyone who buys a midsize 4 door sedan...... So even though we could probably get a V6 Camry cheaper than a V6 Accord if she would consider it she refuses to buy a Toyota. The V6 Altima is a no go. The interior is cheap and nasty. The Fusion would have made the cut if it just even had the 3.5 non turbo V6 from the Taurus. The 2.0T is not a replacement for a V6 in any shape or form unless they add about 30 more horsepower to it.
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Post by: Tbird232ci on October 07, 2016, 02:08:44 PM
The main reason I brought up the Camry is because the buddy who bought one does a lot of auto-x, and he felt the Camry was overall a capable car.

Tell her to buy the 2017 Toyota 86 if she wants a drivers car ;)