Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: MY83T on February 15, 2015, 01:08:23 AM
Post by: MY83T on February 15, 2015, 01:08:23 AM
I have enjoyed membership in this wonderful forum since 2009. I have some really wonderful friends, learned a tremendous amount of tech and at times been able to contribute back here as well. There has always been for the most part, a certain harmony, respect and decorum shown here, which has made this a bit of an oasis in a desert of bullshiznit and drama so prevalent in automotive related forums.
All of that being said, there has been a recurring problem and instrument of discord, that has largely and inexplicably been ignored. Far be it from me to tell the Mods, and Admins how to run their site and message board, but i have had enough of it, and several other non trouble making regulars here have as well. I am now along with Paul (V8Demon) going to take a break here and see what happens moving forward. I can be reached by any and all at davidconn1@mac.com or 516-978-5988 if anyone needs to contact. I will be on all the Facebook pages, so its not a farewell, just a moving on to places with no BS and drama, at least for now until this situation hits some kind of critical mass and resolves. I will be checking PM's so again reach out any way you can.
Here is the link to the discussion that has pushed it to the limit: Scroll to bottom
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?37686-For-my-next-trick/page2
All of that being said, there has been a recurring problem and instrument of discord, that has largely and inexplicably been ignored. Far be it from me to tell the Mods, and Admins how to run their site and message board, but i have had enough of it, and several other non trouble making regulars here have as well. I am now along with Paul (V8Demon) going to take a break here and see what happens moving forward. I can be reached by any and all at davidconn1@mac.com or 516-978-5988 if anyone needs to contact. I will be on all the Facebook pages, so its not a farewell, just a moving on to places with no BS and drama, at least for now until this situation hits some kind of critical mass and resolves. I will be checking PM's so again reach out any way you can.
Here is the link to the discussion that has pushed it to the limit: Scroll to bottom
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?37686-For-my-next-trick/page2
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 15, 2015, 01:35:39 AM
Post by: Beau on February 15, 2015, 01:35:39 AM
Every word Paul said in the other thread can likewise be said to have come from my own keyboard.
I don't mind when he's giving factual, unbiased help, but to be condescending, much less to a board veteran, is simply unacceptable. I don't say this because I'm biased against one make, or for another. I'd feel the same way if he was strictly Ford, through and through.
I also don't give a toss about owning other makes...hell, I've had Jeeps, Dodges, 4 Chevy vehicles, long-term drove a Toyota, and own a Kia. In addition to having had 2 F trucks, 4 Fox Thunderbirds, 1 MN12 Thunderbird AND Cougar, and owning 5 Mustangs and one Capri over the years.
I respect longevity and knowledge. But arrogance because of those I won't put up with. I too have had some absences from this forum, and likely will again at some point. I just get fed up with the same ole, same ole....same guy always arguing, or posting that "my way is the only right way and you are shaging wrong" just gets old, you know.
And it's not that Tom is complete asshole, he and I have PM'ed a few times, he seems like a good guy, but, I'm not straddling the fence.
I also know when to toe the line, and if I slip up, once is all it takes to be told and it doesn't happen again.
First it was hand written letters. CB radio. Then chat rooms went bye bye. Now forums are the chatrooms 5 years ago....a dying breed. Look at corral, for example. If that place can get sold and go to utter shiznit, any car forum can, especially one that's for out of production nameplate.
All you other old timers...I say that in relativity, as I've only been here since 2004....all you long haulers...the writing is on the wall. Not saying to click "log out" and forget the URL, but we......we are the last of the dinosaurs....and that meteorite is hurtling towards our little sparkly ball...know what I mean.
Bad attitudes only make things that much worse. Peace, homies.
I don't mind when he's giving factual, unbiased help, but to be condescending, much less to a board veteran, is simply unacceptable. I don't say this because I'm biased against one make, or for another. I'd feel the same way if he was strictly Ford, through and through.
I also don't give a toss about owning other makes...hell, I've had Jeeps, Dodges, 4 Chevy vehicles, long-term drove a Toyota, and own a Kia. In addition to having had 2 F trucks, 4 Fox Thunderbirds, 1 MN12 Thunderbird AND Cougar, and owning 5 Mustangs and one Capri over the years.
I respect longevity and knowledge. But arrogance because of those I won't put up with. I too have had some absences from this forum, and likely will again at some point. I just get fed up with the same ole, same ole....same guy always arguing, or posting that "my way is the only right way and you are shaging wrong" just gets old, you know.
And it's not that Tom is complete asshole, he and I have PM'ed a few times, he seems like a good guy, but, I'm not straddling the fence.
I also know when to toe the line, and if I slip up, once is all it takes to be told and it doesn't happen again.
First it was hand written letters. CB radio. Then chat rooms went bye bye. Now forums are the chatrooms 5 years ago....a dying breed. Look at corral, for example. If that place can get sold and go to utter shiznit, any car forum can, especially one that's for out of production nameplate.
All you other old timers...I say that in relativity, as I've only been here since 2004....all you long haulers...the writing is on the wall. Not saying to click "log out" and forget the URL, but we......we are the last of the dinosaurs....and that meteorite is hurtling towards our little sparkly ball...know what I mean.
Bad attitudes only make things that much worse. Peace, homies.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on February 15, 2015, 02:03:16 AM
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on February 15, 2015, 02:03:16 AM
I agree Beau. What's the saying? 1 bad apple.... It's just a shame 1 person is going to cause this site to go down. It sounds like it might get a little lonely here.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 15, 2015, 09:52:38 AM
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 15, 2015, 09:52:38 AM
Workin' on it, guys. Things are happening. You'll see a difference soon enough...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Chooglin on February 15, 2015, 10:13:08 AM
Post by: Chooglin on February 15, 2015, 10:13:08 AM
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?37258-I-enjoyed-my-stay-here-!!!
No disrespect to you Thunder Chicken, but read post #23..............he may have tons of knowledge, but his arrogance and ego do not belong on this forum !!!!!
No disrespect to you Thunder Chicken, but read post #23..............he may have tons of knowledge, but his arrogance and ego do not belong on this forum !!!!!
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 15, 2015, 11:29:05 AM
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 15, 2015, 11:29:05 AM
I know, I know. I haven't kept up my end of the bargain. In my defence, I don't read every thread. I did not know this was going on until Paul messaged me through Facebook. Things are under way now though...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: EricCoolCats on February 15, 2015, 11:37:50 AM
Post by: EricCoolCats on February 15, 2015, 11:37:50 AM
And that brings about a great point.
The admins don't always see everything or know that there's an issue unless we get a notification from someone. Please don't assume that we don't care or choose to ignore something...we simply may not know what's going on. Let us know and we will take the appropriate actions.
The admins don't always see everything or know that there's an issue unless we get a notification from someone. Please don't assume that we don't care or choose to ignore something...we simply may not know what's going on. Let us know and we will take the appropriate actions.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 15, 2015, 11:42:49 AM
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 15, 2015, 11:42:49 AM
I'm glad to see that things are being handled. I'd hate to see this forum and it's membership go away due to one members lack of tact.
When it gets to the point that valued members are leaving it's time to pull the plug on that one individual, regardless of his knowledge.
When it gets to the point that valued members are leaving it's time to pull the plug on that one individual, regardless of his knowledge.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: fast Ed on February 15, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
Post by: fast Ed on February 15, 2015, 12:45:02 PM
I'm a new guy here, but not to auto-related Internet forums in general. People on any vBulletin boards should remember they have the option of using that little exclamation point in the triangle to the bottom left of every post to report something to the mods / admins that they feel is an issue. They also have the option of utilizing the "ignore user" feature to not see the posts from that person.
But I certainly agree, anyone who is rude and condescending to other forum members should be dealt with, regardless of their knowledge and helpfulness otherwise.
cheers
Ed
But I certainly agree, anyone who is rude and condescending to other forum members should be dealt with, regardless of their knowledge and helpfulness otherwise.
cheers
Ed
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: TOM Renzo on February 15, 2015, 01:46:29 PM
Post by: TOM Renzo on February 15, 2015, 01:46:29 PM
Just for the record as i am sure i will be kicked off shortly i was just fooling around with that statement about the power plant. I was just kidding
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: vinnietbird on February 15, 2015, 02:13:15 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on February 15, 2015, 02:13:15 PM
I love it here. I'd like to think I have never been mean or rude to anyone here, but, I have had a few act in a fashion I can do without, but I generally just respond nicely and let them choke themselves. I won't list the names of those people, but, they know very well who they are. I won't be leaving the forum, and, I'm hoping it picks up to the activity level it used to be at. It's still the best forum for me, although I do look at a couple more. But this one is "home'. It'll be a cold day before somebody runs me off. I consider the source, then keep moving forward.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: MY83T on February 15, 2015, 03:57:48 PM
Post by: MY83T on February 15, 2015, 03:57:48 PM
To the credit of the admins, i know its difficult to know every issue or tangent going on here, and furthermore i know its behavior that is not condoned or sanctioned. This has been a long time issue, and if its being addressed i think that is proactive and great. I think as a suggestion, moving forward, a 3 strikes and your out policy might be a good thing to consider. Once, anyone can goof or have a brain fart, twice, you were warned and obviously don't care or are just borderline dumb, and third time, take a hike and look for new victims of your stupidity. We are all supposed to be grown ups, and need to put on the big boy underwear and just be civil and courteous. I learned every useful social grace by the time i was 5 years old. Please, excuse me and thank you, or at worst i respectfully disagree are all that are required for civlil discourse on a public message board. I did not feel run off here, but i do think that there is a line in the sand, and when people cross it, if you are a self respecting person you need to do what you think is right. Message boards are fighting tooth and nail to hang on. They are a wonderful and useful place to gather and research info and archive it. Social media, Facebook, twitter, etc are making the social parts we all have enjoyed here, somewhat redundant. I don't purposely bypass the forum to chat with pals from here, but i am mostly using FB messenger and texts as well as posting on the various car pages devoted to our beloved foxes. Thanks for everyone taking time to discuss this issue in an adult manner.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Haystack on February 15, 2015, 04:35:37 PM
Post by: Haystack on February 15, 2015, 04:35:37 PM
I've been on this forum since i was 16, back in the sleezy board days. For the most part, this has been the best forum I've ever been on. Its not uncommon for people to stick around for years after they sell the only fox they ever owned.
I know I've been on the wrong end of a few people over the years. Hopefully no grudges were held.
Renzo can be annoying, but I've just started ignoring him as a whole.
I know I've been on the wrong end of a few people over the years. Hopefully no grudges were held.
Renzo can be annoying, but I've just started ignoring him as a whole.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: vinnietbird on February 15, 2015, 04:58:10 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on February 15, 2015, 04:58:10 PM
I have no grudges with anyone here. Usually when things go a little off center, things usually work themselves out pretty good. Everybody has a bad day, and sometimes things are said without thinking. We move on and work it out. For a small forum, we pretty much can't ask for much more, and for the most part, we take care of each other pretty well.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 15, 2015, 05:36:11 PM
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 15, 2015, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: Haystack;444673
I've been on this forum since i was 16, back in the sleezy board days. For the most part, this has been the best forum I've ever been on. Its not uncommon for people to stick around for years after they sell the only fox they ever owned.
I know I've been on the wrong end of a few people over the years. Hopefully no grudges were held.
Renzo can be annoying, but I've just started ignoring him as a whole.
I can personally vouch for that - I sold my T-Bird back in 2010. I'm here more because it's like a meeting place for old friends. I will have another Fox some day, though.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: vinnietbird on February 15, 2015, 05:40:27 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on February 15, 2015, 05:40:27 PM
Wow, I just looked, I've been here for ten years. I had no idea it's been that long. Cool.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 15, 2015, 05:51:45 PM
Post by: Beau on February 15, 2015, 05:51:45 PM
I can vaguely remember the EZ board days, but I was only on two or three times a month. When the change happened, I was lucky enough to have stumbled on to the redirect just after it happened, so I signed up "here", too. Though I didn't become a really active poster until sometime in mid-late 2005.
We can all count on hand the truly asshole posters we've had here....I wouldn't call Tom in that same group, even...
There was that Mustang guy who didn't last very long, what a douche he was. There was that little shiznit heel mikey that ripped some folks off. And IGAH, who can forget IGAH. And that other guy...can't remember his name, but he posted a pic once of a wad of cash and an airsoft pistol...
Not sure what in hell THAT was about. Unless we're hunting, target shooting, or we're being attacked, keep your guns holstered until such need for them to be drawn arises. Please use judicious aim, as well.
So yeah...in over 10 years we've had probably the amount of assholes that the Corral used to have in one day. Can't beat that. We can also say the "f" word....I tend to be free in my speech, but even so, I try to curtail it and only use it as a magnifier for the sake of the sentence...and I'm thankful that we don't have the level of censorship that most other forums have.
We are blessed here. I hope this place can stand the test of time.
We can all count on hand the truly asshole posters we've had here....I wouldn't call Tom in that same group, even...
There was that Mustang guy who didn't last very long, what a douche he was. There was that little shiznit heel mikey that ripped some folks off. And IGAH, who can forget IGAH. And that other guy...can't remember his name, but he posted a pic once of a wad of cash and an airsoft pistol...
Not sure what in hell THAT was about. Unless we're hunting, target shooting, or we're being attacked, keep your guns holstered until such need for them to be drawn arises. Please use judicious aim, as well.
So yeah...in over 10 years we've had probably the amount of assholes that the Corral used to have in one day. Can't beat that. We can also say the "f" word....I tend to be free in my speech, but even so, I try to curtail it and only use it as a magnifier for the sake of the sentence...and I'm thankful that we don't have the level of censorship that most other forums have.
We are blessed here. I hope this place can stand the test of time.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jay4cars on February 15, 2015, 05:51:49 PM
Post by: jay4cars on February 15, 2015, 05:51:49 PM
I'm kinda new here and this forum has help me with so much info and ideals, that this is my only car forum i use. I look at all the forums and threads here: new and old. So i thank the older members for all the wisdom and knowledge they leave and give to us newbies. I hope they can look past the few and see the many newbies who want to listen and learn.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 15, 2015, 05:54:47 PM
Post by: Beau on February 15, 2015, 05:54:47 PM
While we're at it, I'd like to throw in a protest for warm beer, cold coffee, sinus infections, florescent lights in the wintertime, and people who simply can't drive in more than a dusting of snow. That is all.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: MY83T on February 15, 2015, 06:01:53 PM
Post by: MY83T on February 15, 2015, 06:01:53 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;444681
While we're at it, I'd like to throw in a protest for warm beer, cold coffee, sinus infections, florescent lights in the wintertime, and people who simply can't drive in more than a dusting of snow. That is all.
you forgot traffic, people who take up 2 parking spaces, and taxes. ;)
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 15, 2015, 06:03:41 PM
Post by: Beau on February 15, 2015, 06:03:41 PM
Yup! ;)
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 15, 2015, 06:25:56 PM
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 15, 2015, 06:25:56 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;444681
While we're at it, I'd like to throw in a protest for warm beer, cold coffee, sinus infections, florescent lights in the wintertime, and people who simply can't drive in more than a dusting of snow. That is all.
In all fairness my coffee is usually cold by noon. I still drink it, I'm strange like that.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 15, 2015, 07:38:52 PM
Post by: Beau on February 15, 2015, 07:38:52 PM
Well, I suppose I can overlook the cold coffee...I'm too lazy to get up and warm it up, I'll just grit my teeth, chug it down, and then grab a new cup.
As long as you don't drink your beer warm though. That's a cardinal sin. :D
As long as you don't drink your beer warm though. That's a cardinal sin. :D
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 15, 2015, 08:15:34 PM
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 15, 2015, 08:15:34 PM
No sir. The beer is ice cold at the warmest. As a matter of fact with the arctic weather here as of late my case of beer is buried in the snow next to the shop.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: MY83T on February 15, 2015, 09:11:54 PM
Post by: MY83T on February 15, 2015, 09:11:54 PM
Cold suds on a hot day = perfection
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on February 15, 2015, 09:58:25 PM
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on February 15, 2015, 09:58:25 PM
Thanks guys for taking care of the issue. A lot of the time if someone has an issue with another member it gets worked out without the admins. having to step in. Which we should be able to as adults. But in his case there was no other way. It was almost like he was daring you to ban him. I've always enjoyed this site and the people on it, hell I have quite a few of you as friends on facebook, that says a lot about the guys here. I do spend more time on facebook but it's nice to know this site is still here for us.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: My10-80 on February 15, 2015, 10:13:48 PM
Post by: My10-80 on February 15, 2015, 10:13:48 PM
I haven't been around here very long to know of some of the people you oldster's are talking about. But Vinnie said "It's still the best forum for me" and I have to agree with him on my behalf. Others have said how useful it is for them and I again have to agree. I am not now, nor will I ever probably completely mod out my car as I have chosen to drive the stock road or slightly less than stock to be honest. But I thoroughly enjoy the forum non the less. for the ideas, the pics you good folks out there that are modding these cars out and sharing that experience as you are doing that i find very interesting. I look forward each night to getting on the forum and looking at what is new. I have come in contact with many that have things to share that I have a need for. Bought several parts from the ones on this forum. But mostly i'd have to say to be able to share with others my passion for these beautiful cars. I too own a mustang and enjoy that car more than ever. However I currently have two fox bodies birds now and have had a total of 6 in my lifetime so these cars have a spot in my heart that I won't ever be able to get out. Hell, I'd buy another if I could find the right one that speaks to me. I might have to sleep in it, but I love these cars and for what its worth love sharing this with all of you. I hope we can come to a solution to this issue and get the ones talking again that have the knowledge that some of us here are looking for.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1WLD BRD on February 16, 2015, 11:37:34 AM
Post by: 1WLD BRD on February 16, 2015, 11:37:34 AM
Tom isn't worth getting talking. The board was perfectly fine before him and it will be perfectly without him. Actually it will be a lot better with out him around from what I have seen. Glad to see something being done about him. I have been on this forum for years and left for awhile because this place seemed to be attracting a lot of tools..... and not the useful kind. Glad to see it seems to have settled back down a bit.
Fast Ed will be an asset to this board. I know him from a local Mustang board and have dealt with him on buying and selling parts. Stand up guy and knows his stuff.
Fast Ed will be an asset to this board. I know him from a local Mustang board and have dealt with him on buying and selling parts. Stand up guy and knows his stuff.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: ZondaC12 on February 16, 2015, 01:34:43 PM
Post by: ZondaC12 on February 16, 2015, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;444679
IThere was that little shiznit heel mikey that ripped some folks off. And IGAH, who can forget IGAH.
Totally drawing a blank on IGAH. Good brainteaser I'll have to think about it for awhile!
As for the former...every time someone finds one of those on CL or posts a picture of one or I hear that endorsing brand mentioned I cannot help but immediately think of him and shake my head laughing. What a shiznitshow he was...
It's sad and strange that the mind associates items that strongly. Mainly BAD things, and the memories haunt you for years.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 16, 2015, 05:06:32 PM
Post by: Beau on February 16, 2015, 05:06:32 PM
IGAH = "imgayashell" or some shiznit about like that. Go search his posts....hilarious, and still infuriating. Might've been before your time, maybe? Not sure...it's been some time since I stumbled across some of the shiznit he was involved in..LOL
Personally, I think IGAH was a board regular just having a little too much fun, but like I said...the goober had the rare ability to piss me off and make me laugh at the same time. That's a rare talent, in this world today...;)
Personally, I think IGAH was a board regular just having a little too much fun, but like I said...the goober had the rare ability to piss me off and make me laugh at the same time. That's a rare talent, in this world today...;)
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 16, 2015, 05:10:21 PM
Post by: Beau on February 16, 2015, 05:10:21 PM
Ahhh, here we go:
IGAH 1 (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2104-Battery&highlight=stout")
IGAH 2 (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2123-single-or-double-traction&highlight=stout")
IGAH 3 (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2148-wax-which-is-good-and-bad&highlight=stout")
There's some more, but you get the general idea. LOL.
More:
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2067-514-a-good-idea&highlight=stout
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2226-throttle-problem&highlight=stout
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2371-302-over-to-514&highlight=stout
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2922-need-answer-quick&highlight=stout
Different jackass, and equally idiotic:
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?9317-Boss-Project&highlight=stout
IGAH 1 (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2104-Battery&highlight=stout")
IGAH 2 (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2123-single-or-double-traction&highlight=stout")
IGAH 3 (http://"http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2148-wax-which-is-good-and-bad&highlight=stout")
There's some more, but you get the general idea. LOL.
More:
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2067-514-a-good-idea&highlight=stout
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2226-throttle-problem&highlight=stout
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2371-302-over-to-514&highlight=stout
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?2922-need-answer-quick&highlight=stout
Different jackass, and equally idiotic:
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?9317-Boss-Project&highlight=stout
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 16, 2015, 05:15:23 PM
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 16, 2015, 05:15:23 PM
Oh come on, guys, IGAH "P A I D E D" his dues...
*EDIT* just had to go back and change that. I forgot that I'd set the board software to change the word "p a i d e d" (without the spaces) to "molested" :rollin:
*EDIT* just had to go back and change that. I forgot that I'd set the board software to change the word "p a i d e d" (without the spaces) to "molested" :rollin:
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: ZondaC12 on February 16, 2015, 06:06:53 PM
Post by: ZondaC12 on February 16, 2015, 06:06:53 PM
I'm gay as hell!!????? WOW I wish I was around for that. That's...brilliant.
P a i d e d. Oh man. That poor kid. I remember the body shop just painting over a big dent in his door. But the paint scheme and wheels looked pretty cool on that cougar. Forget his username. He wouldn't stop messing up "paid". He worked his ass off, guy was pulling 50-60 hours a week regularly.
P a i d e d. Oh man. That poor kid. I remember the body shop just painting over a big dent in his door. But the paint scheme and wheels looked pretty cool on that cougar. Forget his username. He wouldn't stop messing up "paid". He worked his ass off, guy was pulling 50-60 hours a week regularly.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: thunderjet302 on February 16, 2015, 06:33:24 PM
Post by: thunderjet302 on February 16, 2015, 06:33:24 PM
So is a certain person gone from the forum? I don't see any of his posts anymore.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: BornInAFord on February 16, 2015, 06:41:22 PM
Post by: BornInAFord on February 16, 2015, 06:41:22 PM
(http://data2.whicdn.com/images/13613436/he-who-must-not-be-named-133165-430-324_large.jpg)
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 16, 2015, 06:45:25 PM
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 16, 2015, 06:45:25 PM
Quote from: BornInAFord;444752
(http://data2.whicdn.com/images/13613436/he-who-must-not-be-named-133165-430-324_large.jpg)
Hahahahahaha
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: ZondaC12 on February 16, 2015, 06:45:50 PM
Post by: ZondaC12 on February 16, 2015, 06:45:50 PM
I understand.........in death, a member of Project Mayhem has a name.
And his name...is
And his name...is
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 16, 2015, 07:20:24 PM
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 16, 2015, 07:20:24 PM
Bob had bitch tits
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 16, 2015, 08:07:39 PM
Post by: Beau on February 16, 2015, 08:07:39 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;444744
Oh come on, guys, IGAH "P A I D E D" his dues...
*EDIT* just had to go back and change that. I forgot that I'd set the board software to change the word "p a i d e d" (without the spaces) to "molested" (http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/images/smilies/rollin.gif)
:bowdown:
Quote from: ZondaC12;444748
I'm gay as hell!!????? WOW I wish I was around for that. That's...brilliant.
P a i d e d. Oh man. That poor kid. I remember the body shop just painting over a big dent in his door. But the paint scheme and wheels looked pretty cool on that cougar. Forget his username. He wouldn't stop messing up "paid". He worked his ass off, guy was pulling 50-60 hours a week regularly.
carpimp1987, or some such shiznit...had the multicolor red, white and blue Tbird...I thought the kid was a drug dealer, for all the money he was puttin' into his cars lmao.
Maybe he was...anybody know what he was slingin'?
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: thunderjet302 on February 16, 2015, 10:02:24 PM
Post by: thunderjet302 on February 16, 2015, 10:02:24 PM
Oh that guy. I swear he worked at Sonic or something. I always wondered where the hell he got all the money for his car parts.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on February 17, 2015, 12:35:02 AM
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on February 17, 2015, 12:35:02 AM
I didn't join until 09 so he was way before my time. I never knew this site existed before then. lol! I was way behind in the computer world.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 17, 2015, 04:18:14 AM
Post by: Beau on February 17, 2015, 04:18:14 AM
Quote from: thunderjet302;444768
Oh that guy. I swear he worked at Sonic or something. I always wondered where the hell he got all the money for his car parts.
If he worked at Sonic and was pulling in that kind of bank, he was either dealin' smack with every brown bag special, or he was giving 5 dollar handjobs. My cousin worked at Sonic when she was in high school...she didn't make that kind of money lol.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 17, 2015, 12:09:18 PM
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 17, 2015, 12:09:18 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;444774
If he worked at Sonic and was pulling in that kind of bank, he was either dealin' smack with every brown bag special, or he was giving 5 dollar handjobs. My cousin worked at Sonic when she was in high school...she didn't make that kind of money lol.
$5 hand jobs... Well, I suppose when you consider his user name...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: thunderjet302 on February 17, 2015, 02:17:04 PM
Post by: thunderjet302 on February 17, 2015, 02:17:04 PM
Maybe Sonic was where he got his car money (ie second job)?
Or he "worked" out of Sonic?
Or he "worked" out of Sonic?
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 50tbrd88 on February 17, 2015, 03:09:33 PM
Post by: 50tbrd88 on February 17, 2015, 03:09:33 PM
I just want to say that I've been on this forum for years, and I too left for awhile because of Renzo. His arrogance and attitude were more than I could take. Overall though, this is my favorite forum. Its a small/close nit community that I hope continues on for a long time.
And why'd we have to bring up carpimp1987...I'd happily blocked that guy from memory.
And why'd we have to bring up carpimp1987...I'd happily blocked that guy from memory.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: V8Demon on February 17, 2015, 03:11:35 PM
Post by: V8Demon on February 17, 2015, 03:11:35 PM
Carm and David both filled me in on the fact that changes were made and what exactly has been done. I'm grateful. To be fair the comment he let out with was small in the grand scheme of things and compared to his previous actions, but it was a last straw kind of thing with him.
Personally I always thought that there were PLENTY of members here who were polite, courteous, helpful, and knew just as much or more than he did concerning these vehicles. I also think some of his "fixes" were full-out kludges (the IAT just sitting on the intake manifold? Really?).
Don't get me wrong, I'm not perfect. I've had a few arguments on here; although they seem to be with all the morons who were banned from here or were just about to be, but left of their own accord before it happened. I've always found this place to be a great resource and had I not found it, I likely would have never gotten my car to what it has become today. My car is an expression of my passion, but it is also a culmination of knowledge; a great portion of it gained from the good people at this very place. I hope some of my previous experience and posts have helped people with issues they have had or perhaps given them ideas and inspiration for their own cars. I've been on these boards since 1998 and this always has been my "go to."
Thanks,
Pauly
Personally I always thought that there were PLENTY of members here who were polite, courteous, helpful, and knew just as much or more than he did concerning these vehicles. I also think some of his "fixes" were full-out kludges (the IAT just sitting on the intake manifold? Really?).
Don't get me wrong, I'm not perfect. I've had a few arguments on here; although they seem to be with all the morons who were banned from here or were just about to be, but left of their own accord before it happened. I've always found this place to be a great resource and had I not found it, I likely would have never gotten my car to what it has become today. My car is an expression of my passion, but it is also a culmination of knowledge; a great portion of it gained from the good people at this very place. I hope some of my previous experience and posts have helped people with issues they have had or perhaps given them ideas and inspiration for their own cars. I've been on these boards since 1998 and this always has been my "go to."
Thanks,
Pauly
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1WLD BRD on February 17, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
Post by: 1WLD BRD on February 17, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
Glad to see you back Paul.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jcassity on February 17, 2015, 06:25:57 PM
Post by: jcassity on February 17, 2015, 06:25:57 PM
hum,, I missed all this........
what the hell is a peaceful protest anyway....
im gonna miss Renzo ,, I knew how to work with him... a type A personality isn't a disease,, your just born with it..
he is a pain in the ass but so are most of us.
what the hell is a peaceful protest anyway....
im gonna miss Renzo ,, I knew how to work with him... a type A personality isn't a disease,, your just born with it..
he is a pain in the ass but so are most of us.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: V8Demon on February 17, 2015, 06:34:27 PM
Post by: V8Demon on February 17, 2015, 06:34:27 PM
Scott, There are probably quite a few type A's here who are regulars, myself included. I do not think any of them stirred the pot the way he did for as long as he did.
If I'm not mistaken, he was a contributing factor as to why the original Tom (TurboCoupe50) has been absent.
THERE'S someone I miss.
If I'm not mistaken, he was a contributing factor as to why the original Tom (TurboCoupe50) has been absent.
THERE'S someone I miss.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: mcb82gt on February 17, 2015, 06:37:10 PM
Post by: mcb82gt on February 17, 2015, 06:37:10 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;444774
or he was giving 5 dollar handjobs..
That made me LOL, thanks.
Quote from: V8Demon;444791
I've always found this place to be a great resource and had I not found it, I likely would have never gotten my car to what it has become today.
I agree totally. I really enjoy this site and truly like these cars.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: BLKBRD88 on February 17, 2015, 08:21:49 PM
Post by: BLKBRD88 on February 17, 2015, 08:21:49 PM
I am a member of another forum that is for early Fox body cars which has a button that we can select to ignore any posts from obnoxious or filthy language members.
I have never been able to find that button on this site, but it sure would be a help in the case of strong language users, Mustang & 2.3 haters, and trouble makers like the one that this thread addresses.
It saves a member from even thinking about leaving a valuable forum like this one because of a couple of problem posters.
This is the only Fox-body Tbird site that I have found where one can expect to get a good informative answer to questions even though your not part of the incrowd.
Ron
I have never been able to find that button on this site, but it sure would be a help in the case of strong language users, Mustang & 2.3 haters, and trouble makers like the one that this thread addresses.
It saves a member from even thinking about leaving a valuable forum like this one because of a couple of problem posters.
This is the only Fox-body Tbird site that I have found where one can expect to get a good informative answer to questions even though your not part of the incrowd.
Ron
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 17, 2015, 09:08:27 PM
Post by: Thunder Chicken on February 17, 2015, 09:08:27 PM
BLKBRD88, I think that's because we're all the "incrowd". This forum isn't really big enough to have cliques, and that's why it's so successful. The fact that it's probably the only forum dedicated to all Fox birds and cats, regardless of engine, helps too.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Chuck W on February 17, 2015, 09:30:54 PM
Post by: Chuck W on February 17, 2015, 09:30:54 PM
Guess I've just been too busy with other things to even notice that this was going on.
*shrug* Can't say I'm really going to miss him. Some kids just don't play well with others.
*shrug* Can't say I'm really going to miss him. Some kids just don't play well with others.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 17, 2015, 09:41:39 PM
Post by: Beau on February 17, 2015, 09:41:39 PM
Another thing is...a lot of the folks here have either met, or have spent some time with one another, mostly due to CatJam of years past.
I've personally only met two members of the board, 88turbo and jcassity...both are guys you'd want with you in a se of any sort.
It's funny how I met up with Scott and his wife...almost by accident, though I'd taken some parts with me to swap with him. We were visiting my sis-in-law's cabin, and it was dark when I made my return trip. Not being overly familiar with the road I needed, I turned off on Scott's road by mistake. Followed it a ways...saw a Cougar. Then saw the porch of his mansion...recognized it from pics he posted here. At least he didn't shoot me on sight though...I was unsure how we'd be received. Even though he was sick as shiznit, he took the time to show me around.
Turned out his place is only a few hundred yards from the cabin that my sis in law was working on. Turned out to be some drama with her and the guy she was seeing...he got caught dipping into someone's cookie jar while the sis in law was away...ouch.
Graham and I have hung out a time or two, one of the more memorable nights was going to wal mart about 2 AM....wonder we didn't get kicked out lol.
Yep, it's a tight knit group. I'm ok with being a little part of it. Lot of names and cars of people who no longer come here that I can remember though...kinda sucks to see people drift away. It's inevitable, I suppose, but it sucks.
One of the guys I remember talking to was Sick88Tbird...Don. He had the 351w EFI Bird that he put together with various parts and it ran quite well. He was building an even better 351w engine, I think with some sort of forced induction, and all of a sudden he left. I bought my DA1 off of him...hope he's doin ok. Hell of a nice guy..
I've personally only met two members of the board, 88turbo and jcassity...both are guys you'd want with you in a se of any sort.
It's funny how I met up with Scott and his wife...almost by accident, though I'd taken some parts with me to swap with him. We were visiting my sis-in-law's cabin, and it was dark when I made my return trip. Not being overly familiar with the road I needed, I turned off on Scott's road by mistake. Followed it a ways...saw a Cougar. Then saw the porch of his mansion...recognized it from pics he posted here. At least he didn't shoot me on sight though...I was unsure how we'd be received. Even though he was sick as shiznit, he took the time to show me around.
Turned out his place is only a few hundred yards from the cabin that my sis in law was working on. Turned out to be some drama with her and the guy she was seeing...he got caught dipping into someone's cookie jar while the sis in law was away...ouch.
Graham and I have hung out a time or two, one of the more memorable nights was going to wal mart about 2 AM....wonder we didn't get kicked out lol.
Yep, it's a tight knit group. I'm ok with being a little part of it. Lot of names and cars of people who no longer come here that I can remember though...kinda sucks to see people drift away. It's inevitable, I suppose, but it sucks.
One of the guys I remember talking to was Sick88Tbird...Don. He had the 351w EFI Bird that he put together with various parts and it ran quite well. He was building an even better 351w engine, I think with some sort of forced induction, and all of a sudden he left. I bought my DA1 off of him...hope he's doin ok. Hell of a nice guy..
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: thunderjet302 on February 17, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
Post by: thunderjet302 on February 17, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
In June I'll have been here 10 years. . Same car the whole time. I'd had it for three years when I joined.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: BLKBRD88 on February 17, 2015, 10:04:21 PM
Post by: BLKBRD88 on February 17, 2015, 10:04:21 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;444828
BLKBRD88, I think that's because we're all the "incrowd". This forum isn't really big enough to have cliques, and that's why it's so successful. The fact that it's probably the only forum dedicated to all Fox birds and cats, regardless of engine, helps too.
I think that was what I was trying to say, but you put it into clearer words.
Being one of the later joiners can be a tough experience on many car forums.
Ron
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Haystack on February 17, 2015, 10:26:56 PM
Post by: Haystack on February 17, 2015, 10:26:56 PM
I don't hate 2.3's, but i have never owned one. I try very hard to not post on things i don't actually have experience with.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: bodyman on February 17, 2015, 11:30:39 PM
Post by: bodyman on February 17, 2015, 11:30:39 PM
Quote
BLKBRD88
I am a member of another forum that is for early Fox body cars which has a button that we can select to ignore any posts from obnoxious or filthy language members.
I have never been able to find that button on this site, but it sure would be a help in the case of strong language users, Mustang & 2.3 haters, and trouble makers like the one that this thread addresses.
It saves a member from even thinking about leaving a valuable forum like this one because of a couple of problem posters.
This is the only Fox-body Tbird site that I have found where one can expect to get a good informative answer to questions even though your not part of the incrowd.
Ron
I think if you click on the user name you want to block and go to the view profile page there is an "ignore this user" to click on. I have never used it, but have noticed it.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: BLKBRD88 on February 17, 2015, 11:46:06 PM
Post by: BLKBRD88 on February 17, 2015, 11:46:06 PM
Quote from: Haystack;444849
I don't hate 2.3's, but i have never owned one. I try very hard to not post on things i don't actually have experience with.
I have owned about a dozen 5.0s & probably 8 or 10 2.3s both turboed & N/A.
Both the V8 and the boosted four bangers have their positive points and both are fun to drive, because they respond to WOT so differently. One being torquey from the git go, and the other one feeling like an afterburner kicks in at around 2700rpm.
I still own both and can't really say which I prefer...........'causen I likes to run dem both!
Ron
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: CoogarXR on February 18, 2015, 08:52:47 AM
Post by: CoogarXR on February 18, 2015, 08:52:47 AM
I'm always behind on technology. I only joined up here when the Usenet (alt.autos.mercury.cougar) finally fizzled out, LOL.
I have been on umpteen car forums (and other types of forums), and this is the most civil, level-headed forum around, and I hope it never fizzles out. I would hate to have to join Facebook just to get some quality cougar fellowship, hehe. Hats off to the mods and great guys on here.
I have been on umpteen car forums (and other types of forums), and this is the most civil, level-headed forum around, and I hope it never fizzles out. I would hate to have to join Facebook just to get some quality cougar fellowship, hehe. Hats off to the mods and great guys on here.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 50tbrd88 on February 18, 2015, 09:08:16 AM
Post by: 50tbrd88 on February 18, 2015, 09:08:16 AM
Quote from: V8Demon;444809
Scott, There are probably quite a few type A's here who are regulars, myself included. I do not think any of them stirred the pot the way he did for as long as he did.
If I'm not mistaken, he was a contributing factor as to why the original Tom (TurboCoupe50) has been absent.
THERE'S someone I miss.
I had noticed his absence as well. I hope he comes back around as he was very knowledgeable about not only these Fox cars but automobiles in general!
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: marianadeeps on February 18, 2015, 12:38:00 PM
Post by: marianadeeps on February 18, 2015, 12:38:00 PM
I can't really add to the great things everyone's already said about this forum and the people in it - it's all true. I was mainly on motorcycle forums before I bought my fox bird and really didn't know squat about them besides digging the look. I'm sure it must get tiresome answering the same questions over and over again as you guide newbies through all the issues and upgrades. My fox is freaking bad*** now and it's mainly due to your patience and willingness to help. I feel bad about Tom as some of my threads might have helped precipitate the arguments. Like jcassity, I didn't have an issue with his attitude. Yeah, he poked fun at me but I did a lot of dumb things (like trying to measure vacuum at the hose that goes to my EGR plate).
Anyway thank you all for being here and sticking with it. It's too bad you all live so far way. Let me know if you ever come out to northern CA.
Anyway thank you all for being here and sticking with it. It's too bad you all live so far way. Let me know if you ever come out to northern CA.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: MY83T on February 18, 2015, 02:35:43 PM
Post by: MY83T on February 18, 2015, 02:35:43 PM
Quote from: jcassity;444807
hum,, I missed all this........
what the hell is a peaceful protest anyway....
im gonna miss Renzo ,, I knew how to work with him... a type A personality isn't a disease,, your just born with it..
he is a pain in the ass but so are most of us.
Scott, i wasn't trying to be passive/agressive when i began this thread. I merely wanted to frame a conversation, not an argument, so that something constructive could be figured out without any drama. I personally had no issue with Tom regarding anything i have posted, merely because i never sought his opinion or expertise, and the one time i did post in that way regarding my flooded 83 Heritage, the thread was derailed instantly by him with a g match about whose way is the right way. That said, i have defended him several times here for being attacked when i judged it unfair or uncalled for. Most recently i had PM'ed him and posted several times for him to get in touch as i had some business to refer his way in his local area, he never even had the courtesy to reply to me let alone say thank you. When i saw that Paul (V8 Demon) was going to walk away from the forum, i said enough is enough. He is a forum pal, and a local friend that i spend a lot of time with, and he is the last person who deserves to be run off of a forum like this. This man would do anything to help a friend at any hour of the day. I don't have any personal dislike for Tom. I never met him, or spoke with him, and i am sure over some beers and stories he is an ok guy. That said when the harmony of a great place like this is threatened for as long as it has, at the least a open discussion with cool heads and the mods involved seemed prudent. Time for a group hug and to move on to Fox Bird/Cat talk.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jcassity on February 18, 2015, 05:21:22 PM
Post by: jcassity on February 18, 2015, 05:21:22 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;444809
Scott, There are probably quite a few type A's here who are regulars, myself included. I do not think any of them stirred the pot the way he did for as long as he did.
If I'm not mistaken, he was a contributing factor as to why the original Tom (TurboCoupe50) has been absent.
THERE'S someone I miss.
I cant seem to get ahold of him anymore,,, and I worry ,, he has grand kits and to be honest, I worry because he just went POOF.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 18, 2015, 05:27:08 PM
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 18, 2015, 05:27:08 PM
Quote from: jcassity;444880
I cant seem to get ahold of him anymore,,, and I worry ,, he has grand kits and to be honest, I worry because he just went POOF.
I doubt that. Maybe he's just lying low and cooling off.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jcassity on February 18, 2015, 05:31:10 PM
Post by: jcassity on February 18, 2015, 05:31:10 PM
Quote from: MY83T;444877
I never met him, or spoke with him.
haahahaahaha
well,, for the record I have spoke to him.
for the record,, of how he is in "vocal person",,, just think of any given post of his.
the only difference is that here on the board,,you could finish what you were say'in................ get it!
its like going down a crowded interstate,,, all the other cars are tom and your trying to get somewhere,,, but all those other fuggers are out doing you.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 18, 2015, 05:36:59 PM
Post by: jandmmustangs on February 18, 2015, 05:36:59 PM
Does anyone know the name of his shop? I'm not trying to stir the pot but I do find it odd that as a business owner he is under the radar as far as quick net searches go.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jcassity on February 18, 2015, 05:44:48 PM
Post by: jcassity on February 18, 2015, 05:44:48 PM
I was going to show you but ,, well all evidence is gone.
for the record,, the eraser button some powerful god has really does the trick.
Im sure many facebook users would love to have someone with that kind of power,, especially on their job interview.
If anything was done wrong by tom,, there sure as hell isn't any proof.
as they say...... "if at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you ever tried"
for the record,, the eraser button some powerful god has really does the trick.
Im sure many facebook users would love to have someone with that kind of power,, especially on their job interview.
If anything was done wrong by tom,, there sure as hell isn't any proof.
as they say...... "if at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you ever tried"
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: mcb82gt on February 18, 2015, 06:01:26 PM
Post by: mcb82gt on February 18, 2015, 06:01:26 PM
As echoed by all the posts, With this site, I have a feeling of trust, especially wanting to buy or sell something. I dont have that trust, or familiarity with other sites. This site is very important to me and these cars.
Meeting in person with fellow members is a great thing, I wish I could have been to able to make it to some. Wishing we could have more of that. Catjam.....................:beatyoass::beatyoass:
Meeting in person with fellow members is a great thing, I wish I could have been to able to make it to some. Wishing we could have more of that. Catjam.....................:beatyoass::beatyoass:
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jcassity on February 18, 2015, 06:34:45 PM
Post by: jcassity on February 18, 2015, 06:34:45 PM
turbocoupe50 pinged,,, ping returned... nice to lure him back over here because its about time he dust off his user name.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Haystack on February 18, 2015, 09:33:52 PM
Post by: Haystack on February 18, 2015, 09:33:52 PM
Tom (not renzo, turbocoupe50) has been hit or miss on this forum for quite a few years, before tom (renzo) ever posted.
I do wish he came back. He was very knowledgeable and shared quite a bit with everyone. And master blaster. That guy was like jcassity, tom renzo(when he wasn't a prick), seek and just about anyone else you could think of rolled into one person. King of searches, information,but god did he need to get rid of his dial up...
I do wish he came back. He was very knowledgeable and shared quite a bit with everyone. And master blaster. That guy was like jcassity, tom renzo(when he wasn't a prick), seek and just about anyone else you could think of rolled into one person. King of searches, information,but god did he need to get rid of his dial up...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 18, 2015, 10:05:34 PM
Post by: Beau on February 18, 2015, 10:05:34 PM
I think if Tom (tc5.0) went to that big ole car show in the sky, we'd have heard about it. Or I'd like to think somehow, the grapevine would let us know if so. But I too think he just got tired of all the bullshiznit. He'll pop in again...bet on it.
As for Renzo, his kid has a FB page...I peeped it one time. I don't think they have a shop, I think they just got hired by some rich barstid to change his oil a few times and they kinda went with the swelled head. Maybe I'm wrong..who gives a shiznit, yanno?
He had good info, he also had an asshole side and he made it apparent one time, not long after he started getting active here. He posted some pics of his fabbed up rear caliper brackets to mount SN95 discs on a TC rear. I asked him what he'd charge to make some for me, and to name whatever price he thought was fair.
Crickets. Not even a "no, I don't condescend to even tell you f*ck off", not a reply of any kind.
A few days later, he was an ass to a newer guy and that made up my mind.
I'm no peach, and I've done my share of ashedhole stunts, but by and large I'm willing to help out too. If he didn't want to bother with making me some brackets, I wouldn't have batted an eye or thought any more about it. I've been told no a couple of times before that, LMAO.
A lot of folks who have been absent...shawn, brian, slamedcat, shame302, thundergrowl, jim miller, sick88tbird, bret from iowa, shiznit, bunches of folks.
Life goes on, I guess...people keep on movin along. Guess i am nostalgic..got a lot of new blood though...we got traditions to continue. Let's roll!
As for Renzo, his kid has a FB page...I peeped it one time. I don't think they have a shop, I think they just got hired by some rich barstid to change his oil a few times and they kinda went with the swelled head. Maybe I'm wrong..who gives a shiznit, yanno?
He had good info, he also had an asshole side and he made it apparent one time, not long after he started getting active here. He posted some pics of his fabbed up rear caliper brackets to mount SN95 discs on a TC rear. I asked him what he'd charge to make some for me, and to name whatever price he thought was fair.
Crickets. Not even a "no, I don't condescend to even tell you f*ck off", not a reply of any kind.
A few days later, he was an ass to a newer guy and that made up my mind.
I'm no peach, and I've done my share of ashedhole stunts, but by and large I'm willing to help out too. If he didn't want to bother with making me some brackets, I wouldn't have batted an eye or thought any more about it. I've been told no a couple of times before that, LMAO.
A lot of folks who have been absent...shawn, brian, slamedcat, shame302, thundergrowl, jim miller, sick88tbird, bret from iowa, shiznit, bunches of folks.
Life goes on, I guess...people keep on movin along. Guess i am nostalgic..got a lot of new blood though...we got traditions to continue. Let's roll!
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: MY83T on February 18, 2015, 10:35:41 PM
Post by: MY83T on February 18, 2015, 10:35:41 PM
Beau, its consistent with what i wrote here earlier when i tried to connect him with some work, and he never replied, say thanks or anything. His deal is a shady one, and any business person i know, would jump at the opportunity to market their business for free here. I did some research online. It would seem that his BS here is repeated on several other forums. His son uses Tfaclonieri on Turbo Ford and apparently has a lifetime ban over there.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 18, 2015, 11:55:31 PM
Post by: Beau on February 18, 2015, 11:55:31 PM
Might just be in poor taste to joke about the only-recently...departed, but it would seem that Toms of a feather troll together..
I knew Renzo, Sr, got kicked off of a couple of forums, I stopped in to sniff the breeze as I did infrequently on I believe it was TurboFord, or maybe it was 4 eyed pride, and there was a huge to-do about him and they really gave him the axe there. Chuck W even warned him when he first got silly here that his shiznit wasn't going to fly like it did on some other boards..
Of course, the uptight admin(s) at FEP wouldn't have put up with his for more than 10 seconds, so maybe it was TF...
I don't mean to sound like I'm bashing the guy, but that bit about him going back and deleting or editing his posts was pretty half-assed too. Anyone ever figure out what was up with that? It's one thing to be an arrogant old man, pushy, and full of yourself...type A, or whatever, but then to be a little bitch about it and go back and edit out all your posts...I did have him on ignore for awhile, but still, seeing only half the drama with him made me want to see the he was posting, so off the list he came.
Still, he's only the third person I've ever put on ignore here. The other one was that dick-socket that asked a time or two what needed done to swap in a 351w. I replied that it's all been hashed out before, run a search and spend a bit reading...
He got all pen 15y and said he didn't have time to read, he was busy building. Ignore coming up in 3..2..1..
Chuck told him off too. When the board made the sever change a couple of years ago, that shiznitheel got lost in the switch. And I think the other guy I put on iggy was that one little brat...the one that had the car named after the shoe brand..the one who ripped off a few folks..
Wait..there's one other...that guy in new england who conned vinnie for some junky go kart tires. I know one of the FB groups he's on...he ever makes a deal with someone, I'll warn them off.
Other than that, people here are awesome.
I knew Renzo, Sr, got kicked off of a couple of forums, I stopped in to sniff the breeze as I did infrequently on I believe it was TurboFord, or maybe it was 4 eyed pride, and there was a huge to-do about him and they really gave him the axe there. Chuck W even warned him when he first got silly here that his shiznit wasn't going to fly like it did on some other boards..
Of course, the uptight admin(s) at FEP wouldn't have put up with his for more than 10 seconds, so maybe it was TF...
I don't mean to sound like I'm bashing the guy, but that bit about him going back and deleting or editing his posts was pretty half-assed too. Anyone ever figure out what was up with that? It's one thing to be an arrogant old man, pushy, and full of yourself...type A, or whatever, but then to be a little bitch about it and go back and edit out all your posts...I did have him on ignore for awhile, but still, seeing only half the drama with him made me want to see the he was posting, so off the list he came.
Still, he's only the third person I've ever put on ignore here. The other one was that dick-socket that asked a time or two what needed done to swap in a 351w. I replied that it's all been hashed out before, run a search and spend a bit reading...
He got all pen 15y and said he didn't have time to read, he was busy building. Ignore coming up in 3..2..1..
Chuck told him off too. When the board made the sever change a couple of years ago, that shiznitheel got lost in the switch. And I think the other guy I put on iggy was that one little brat...the one that had the car named after the shoe brand..the one who ripped off a few folks..
Wait..there's one other...that guy in new england who conned vinnie for some junky go kart tires. I know one of the FB groups he's on...he ever makes a deal with someone, I'll warn them off.
Other than that, people here are awesome.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: MY83T on February 19, 2015, 12:04:42 AM
Post by: MY83T on February 19, 2015, 12:04:42 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;444931
Might just be in poor taste to joke about the only-recently...departed, but it would seem that Toms of a feather troll together..
I knew Renzo, Sr, got kicked off of a couple of forums, I stopped in to sniff the breeze as I did infrequently on I believe it was TurboFord, or maybe it was 4 eyed pride, and there was a huge to-do about him and they really gave him the axe there. Chuck W even warned him when he first got silly here that his shiznit wasn't going to fly like it did on some other boards..
Of course, the uptight admin(s) at FEP wouldn't have put up with his for more than 10 seconds, so maybe it was TF...
It was turbo ford, and there was an alias (supposedly his son Tom jr.) TFalconieri that was banned there also.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: V8Demon on February 19, 2015, 03:25:32 AM
Post by: V8Demon on February 19, 2015, 03:25:32 AM
Quote from: jcassity;444892
turbocoupe50 pinged,,, ping returned... nice to lure him back over here because its about time he dust off his user name.
Nice!
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: vinnietbird on February 19, 2015, 07:46:05 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on February 19, 2015, 07:46:05 AM
TC5.0 was the reason I did the first H.O swap in my car. Great help. The Kitz gets the blame for bigger cam and Mass Air.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 50tbrd88 on February 19, 2015, 11:14:39 AM
Post by: 50tbrd88 on February 19, 2015, 11:14:39 AM
I always thought it was cute how Tom posted tons of pics of "his cars". Dude must have "owned" 20+ cars. Really dude?
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: BLKBRD88 on February 19, 2015, 04:36:33 PM
Post by: BLKBRD88 on February 19, 2015, 04:36:33 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;444931
.................Of course, the uptight admin(s) at FEP wouldn't have put up with his for more than 10 seconds, so maybe it was TF..............
I enjoyed reading your last post as I have all of the posts on this thread, but remember:
Running a tight ship does not necessarily mean that you are up-tight.
Four eyes & this forum are two of the best car forums that I have visited, and the tight ship effect is partly what keeps them good, because it attracts good folks!
Ron
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 19, 2015, 07:15:56 PM
Post by: Beau on February 19, 2015, 07:15:56 PM
Well, they ARE an uptight group there. The last time I was there, I mentioned that my '84 needed a dash, and that I was considering swapping in a dash from a '94.
You'd have though I just called their mothers ws, for the reactions it got. That was enough for me, I logged out, and haven't ever been back, nor will I. Plus, one of the admins there is a real work. Maybe by now it's calmed down...but if you like it there and have a great time, I'm sincerely happy.
I don't think it's a good thing to roast someone for wanting to put a newer dash in an '84 3.8 car that's little more than a shell as it is. And when i bought it, it didn't have the original dash, previous owner pitched it because it was py.
It's not like it was a '79 Pace Car, though I've seen several of them that are modified to beat hell...those cars must give the purists a righteous old fit. LOL
In the end, these cars are just so many hunks of metal, with a few cleverly placed screws and nuts holding the pieces together. If one of those guys wants to send me a perfect dash for a 4 eye car, I'll be glad to have you pass along my mailing addy. ;)
You'd have though I just called their mothers ws, for the reactions it got. That was enough for me, I logged out, and haven't ever been back, nor will I. Plus, one of the admins there is a real work. Maybe by now it's calmed down...but if you like it there and have a great time, I'm sincerely happy.
I don't think it's a good thing to roast someone for wanting to put a newer dash in an '84 3.8 car that's little more than a shell as it is. And when i bought it, it didn't have the original dash, previous owner pitched it because it was py.
It's not like it was a '79 Pace Car, though I've seen several of them that are modified to beat hell...those cars must give the purists a righteous old fit. LOL
In the end, these cars are just so many hunks of metal, with a few cleverly placed screws and nuts holding the pieces together. If one of those guys wants to send me a perfect dash for a 4 eye car, I'll be glad to have you pass along my mailing addy. ;)
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on February 20, 2015, 12:34:33 AM
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on February 20, 2015, 12:34:33 AM
Quote from: jcassity;444892
turbocoupe50 pinged,,, ping returned... nice to lure him back over here because its about time he dust off his user name.
I thank every one for thinking about me, I'll be cruising through on a more regular basis...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: MY83T on February 20, 2015, 01:26:42 AM
Post by: MY83T on February 20, 2015, 01:26:42 AM
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;445004
I thank every one for thinking about me, I'll be cruising through on a more regular basis...
Welcome back pal........
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 20, 2015, 01:33:36 AM
Post by: Beau on February 20, 2015, 01:33:36 AM
I'd hoped this day would come. I've always enjoyed your posts and your wit. :)
Did you get the TC back in order, or how's things with that?
Did you get the TC back in order, or how's things with that?
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: MY83T on February 20, 2015, 01:51:24 AM
Post by: MY83T on February 20, 2015, 01:51:24 AM
the only thing missing here is...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eHVbfgdXDo
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on February 20, 2015, 11:41:13 AM
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on February 20, 2015, 11:41:13 AM
He's back!! lol!!
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on February 20, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on February 20, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;445010
I'd hoped this day would come. I've always enjoyed your posts and your wit. :)
Did you get the TC back in order, or how's things with that?
It's still in pieces but have almost everything to complete the 331 swap, I have it in storage and plan on getting back on it when the weather breaks...
For the last couple years if I did anything, was usually with the '72 Comet GT... It still need lots of little detail work but at least is licensed and moves under it's own power.. Too much time spent correcting issues like, new Holly carb that leaked every Tuesday but only if there was a southerly breeze, mismatched strut rod bushings(new kit), rattling spring perches(again new),, etc etc...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Chrome on February 20, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
Post by: Chrome on February 20, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: 1Bad88tbird;445021
He's back!! lol!!
One down, several more to go. With Renzo gone, this should be a much calmer and friendlier place. When is the last time anyone heard from Steve?
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Lightningbird on February 20, 2015, 09:38:16 PM
Post by: Lightningbird on February 20, 2015, 09:38:16 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;444809
Scott, There are probably quite a few type A's here who are regulars, myself included. I do not think any of them stirred the pot the way he did for as long as he did.
If I'm not mistaken, he was a contributing factor as to why the original Tom (TurboCoupe50) has been absent.
THERE'S someone I miss.
I miss the original Tom too. He knew everything! Talk about a mentor. I truly miss the ez board days when there was a big group of us guys that were all figuring this stuff out and having fun. I was deployed to GTMO and chatting every day in 2003 contrary to Uncle Sams beliefs about message board usage.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Tbird232ci on February 27, 2015, 07:13:54 AM
Post by: Tbird232ci on February 27, 2015, 07:13:54 AM
You're all cry babies.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Loaded87IROC on February 27, 2015, 08:01:54 AM
Post by: Loaded87IROC on February 27, 2015, 08:01:54 AM
Quote from: Tbird232ci;445342
You're all cry babies.
Who let this F-body troll in?
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: V8Demon on February 27, 2015, 08:39:40 AM
Post by: V8Demon on February 27, 2015, 08:39:40 AM
Quote from: Tbird232ci;445342
You're all cry babies.
Ha!
Where YOU been hiding, Shawn?
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1WLD BRD on February 27, 2015, 08:48:59 AM
Post by: 1WLD BRD on February 27, 2015, 08:48:59 AM
Shawn is an asshole. No one listens to him anyways lol. J/k How's it going Shawn? :-)
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 27, 2015, 08:58:38 AM
Post by: Beau on February 27, 2015, 08:58:38 AM
Quote from: Loaded87IROC;445343
Who let this F-body troll in?
I wouldn't call him a troll, though his taste in signature images is questionable.
I seem to recall that at one time he daily drove a modded TC...his cred is sufficient ;)
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on February 27, 2015, 09:31:13 AM
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on February 27, 2015, 09:31:13 AM
He's another one we've not seen or heard from in a long time.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Tbird232ci on February 27, 2015, 02:49:26 PM
Post by: Tbird232ci on February 27, 2015, 02:49:26 PM
Quote from: Loaded87IROC;445343
Who let this F-body troll in?
I seem to remember asking the same question when you joined the forum :hick:
Not only am I an F-body troll, I'm also an FRS troll now.
Quote from: V8Demon;445344
Ha!
Where YOU been hiding, Shawn?
Plain sight pretty much. I'm still on facebook but I'm just not very active. I'm not too hard to find.
Quote from: 1WLD BRD;445345
Shawn is an asshole. No one listens to him anyways lol. J/k How's it going Shawn? :-)
You're absolutely right! Ha. Thing's have actually been pretty good lately. I've seen you've been busy hacking...er...wrenching on a Tbird in the cold north ;-)
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;445346
I wouldn't call him a troll, though his taste in signature images is questionable.
I seem to recall that at one time he daily drove a modded TC...his cred is sufficient ;)
I wonder if your lack of a signature picture is indicative of your taste. It's actually funny to see my current picture, the car hasn't had stock wheels and ride height for a few years now.
I daily drove two different TCs, had the 3.8L bird I was building, an 88 LX that got rear ended and another TC that was entirely too rusty for me to do anything with. If my car ownership was cred enough, the post count is pretty helpful :giggle:
All joking and razzing aside, I figured I was due for popping on the forum and seeing what was going on. It's crazy to see so many names and faces that I haven't seen for years. I've been keeping my eyes peeled on facebook hoping to see something like CatJam pop up to where I could pull the random cameo like I used to. Glad to see this forum hasn't died off like a lot of smaller forums have.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on February 27, 2015, 05:19:42 PM
Post by: Beau on February 27, 2015, 05:19:42 PM
I could put up a sig pic, but at this point, everyone and their dogs know what an LX Mustang on Bullits looks like. :hick:
Got any updated pics of your 'Bird? (Fire, since the Thunder was sold) ;)
I actually like the look of the last couple generations of Firebirds...they seemed more swoopy than the Camaro, and the interior looked better too, IMO.
I actually almost bought an LT1 Firebird about a year and a half ago. Needed a transmission, but the biggest reason I didn't get it was because I simply didn't want to hear all the shiznit from the GM guys saying "oh, you finally got a real car" blah blah.
I met the guy, looked it over, started it, listened to it, we tried to drive it but it slipped so bad it wouldn't pull itself. 2500 bucks. I should've bought, but like I said, didn't want to hear the shiznit. :D
Got any updated pics of your 'Bird? (Fire, since the Thunder was sold) ;)
I actually like the look of the last couple generations of Firebirds...they seemed more swoopy than the Camaro, and the interior looked better too, IMO.
I actually almost bought an LT1 Firebird about a year and a half ago. Needed a transmission, but the biggest reason I didn't get it was because I simply didn't want to hear all the shiznit from the GM guys saying "oh, you finally got a real car" blah blah.
I met the guy, looked it over, started it, listened to it, we tried to drive it but it slipped so bad it wouldn't pull itself. 2500 bucks. I should've bought, but like I said, didn't want to hear the shiznit. :D
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jcassity on March 02, 2015, 07:15:19 PM
Post by: jcassity on March 02, 2015, 07:15:19 PM
I was on the phone with another member,, he mentioned people showing up again.. and now shawn pops up.
next will be Master Blaster and Bondo Cougar,, who knows
next will be Master Blaster and Bondo Cougar,, who knows
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 02, 2015, 08:40:45 PM
Post by: Beau on March 02, 2015, 08:40:45 PM
Let's hope so. Lots of good people are MIA.
Still.
Still.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on March 02, 2015, 08:42:17 PM
Post by: jandmmustangs on March 02, 2015, 08:42:17 PM
It's almost spoogebaya time lol.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 02, 2015, 10:10:52 PM
Post by: Beau on March 02, 2015, 10:10:52 PM
:d
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: MY83T on March 02, 2015, 11:46:11 PM
Post by: MY83T on March 02, 2015, 11:46:11 PM
Guys, for those that missed this exchange on the Group FB page the other night, this was the exchange between Tom Jr. and I. Evidently he is a member on that page. Here is the transcript before one of them deletes their posts like always.
TOM JR:
Tom Falconieri Well coming from me ( Tfalconier) I can assure you my father didn't think twice about being banned, while working on the 959 Porsches, la Ferraris, and all the other super cars he works on daily.
Me, well I'm not quite as lucky, while I am certified in Porsches, Land Rover, Jags, and Audis, it really doesn't compare to the stuff he works on. But hey, you guys are building tbirds and Cougars, what does that have on the cars we build
I'm sure he will be sad not looking at 9 pages of cup holders and the 300 wheel horsepower you guys make.
Pretty classy after my dad shared his years of experience, gave free parts to members, and answered all questions you guys had.
I must ask, what's in your garage?? Here's two cars we are building right now, they might not have nice cup holders or trumpet horns with 500 relays, but running 8's and 9s for street cars should suffice
ME:
February 26 at 8:45pm · Like
David Conn I think i just heard a fart in the breeze
February 26 at 8:51pm · Like · 1
Tom Falconieri That might just be that slow ass car you built
February 26 at 8:58pm · Like
Andrew Drewstang Vogt Long time lurker, first time caller. I see both sides here and I think you guys are having a clash of personalities. David, there is an ignore feature on VB that you can use and you will never see another post from Tom. I've read his posts to go back and try to reference it later and find everything deleted because someone's ass got chapped. He's full of knowledge and obviously trusted by owners with alot more cash than most of us. If I was an admin, I'd unban him and monitor his and everyone elses posts for personal attacks, but let him post what he wants. Lets face it. These cars and the knowledge base with them is getting rarer by the day. We need those with good input to post when there is an issue that can't be solved by normal thinking.
February 26 at 8:59pm · Like · 1
David Conn Andrew, the deleted posts you mentioned were all deleted by tom himself, not the admins. This is his pattern. The truth is the forum is a happier place, and he has done nothing but anger, divide and be disrespectful multiple times to multiple forum members. This is not a personal thing. I have nothing against a man i have never met or spoken to. I do have issue with people who demand respect but show none to others. Its not the message, its the messenger. He has been banned on other forums for the same behavior. I am sure there is a forum out there worthy and deserving of his perfect knowledge of everything. I along with 99% of the forum, most of whom are long time members manage to communicate over thousands of posts and threads with respect and friendship. Even when in disagreement. I dont have to ignore him because he is gone and i wish him luck in his internet journey. I respect his skills, but not the man.
February 26 at 9:08pm · Like
Tom Falconieri And that's what's funny Andrew, we have built tons of these cars, tons of 5.0s, my dads been working on 2.3s since 1974 with my moms new pinto and my dad and I have built dozens and dozens of award winning cars, not only at shows but the track.
People get on the Internet and everybody can tell you how to do something, and they have never done it, my father and I have been there, and done it, between us both we have had 6+ fox tbirds, and I'd say 10 mustangs. You could ask my dad anything and he would help someone in a jam in a heartbeat, he's forgotten more things then " professionals " know.. But with that, you get morons like David that's probably built 1 car in his life but will preach to people like us and it's just funny. Every day I see people of forums spreading absolute garbage and false information and have 20 people that agree with them, it's priceless
We got banned from turboford.. Who cares? Does that stop us from building cars? No. Do we lose sleep over it? No, the funny thing is guys on these pages need guys like us that actually have correct information, we don't need them. I got banned years ago and built plenty of fox cars with no forums
February 26 at 9:12pm · Like
Beau McKenzie Like father. Like son. When called out on your arrogance all you shagwits do is throw about these bad ass cars that you work on. Who gives a shag? Not I.
February 26 at 9:14pm · Like
Tom Falconieri What do you work on beau? What certifications do you have? Does anybody hand you the keys to their 4 million dollar car?
Hell do you even have a car over 400whp
February 26 at 9:15pm · Like
Beau McKenzie Grow up. Both of you. Tom,Tom junior. Act like babies when you don't get your way.
February 26 at 9:16pm · Like
Tom Falconieri Get my way? What way don't we get? Answer my questions
February 26 at 9:17pm · Like
David Conn Tom , i am not a moron, nor do i claim to be a mechanic of any kind. I know very basic auto repair, and listen intently to those who know more than i, your dad included. I never derided your fathers skill or ability, or experience. Try and read my words instead of picking a fight where there isnt one. What you just did here is exactly what your dad does. You ignore whats relevant and choose to sidestep the actual conversation which is about his behavior and manners. Your answer instead of looking inward to see why are all these people so set on banning us, is to muddy the discussion with irrelevant things about builds, budgets and experience.
February 26 at 9:19pm · Edited · Like
Tom Falconieri Prove my point even more, love the guys that run their mouths and don't even have ONE nice build under their belt
February 26 at 9:19pm · Like
Beau McKenzie It's not a matter of what I have. I do not have an arrogant....my way is the only way mindset like you guys do. Big shagin whoop what my car does. It makes me happy. I couldn't physically give less of a shiznit what you think makes a bad ass car. 400 horse. ..399..398....who shaging cares..asshole.
February 26 at 9:19pm · Like
Tom Falconieri You posted the video above but I'm irreverent? Good call
February 26 at 9:20pm · Like
Andrew Drewstang Vogt
Andrew Drewstang Vogt's photo.
February 26 at 9:21pm · Like
David Conn A man looks inwards at his shortcomings, admits them and takes responsibility. Thats all i have to say. I wish you and your dad luck in your endeavors and good health.
February 26 at 9:23pm · Like
Tom Falconieri Dave it's just funny, you say he has a lot of knowledge and have learned from him yet post things and say so long.
He would help each and every person on that page if he could, no matter how he comes off online
February 26 at 9:42pm · Like
David Conn Read my previous comments tom. I just prefer harmony, and a peaceful forum with old friends and no drama. I have not said a single negative comment about your skill, knowledge or ability. I dont debate your builds, budgets or clients. This is about showing dignity and some class, and taking ownership of the fact that an entire group of basically very nice regular car guys want him gone. Are we all crazy? This is not a lynch mob. There have been dozens of warnings this was coming. Just for the record, i tried sending your dad business 3 months ago. I sent 3 pm's, posted on the forum, and recieved no reply or even a thank you.
And there you have it.
TOM JR:
Tom Falconieri Well coming from me ( Tfalconier) I can assure you my father didn't think twice about being banned, while working on the 959 Porsches, la Ferraris, and all the other super cars he works on daily.
Me, well I'm not quite as lucky, while I am certified in Porsches, Land Rover, Jags, and Audis, it really doesn't compare to the stuff he works on. But hey, you guys are building tbirds and Cougars, what does that have on the cars we build
I'm sure he will be sad not looking at 9 pages of cup holders and the 300 wheel horsepower you guys make.
Pretty classy after my dad shared his years of experience, gave free parts to members, and answered all questions you guys had.
I must ask, what's in your garage?? Here's two cars we are building right now, they might not have nice cup holders or trumpet horns with 500 relays, but running 8's and 9s for street cars should suffice
ME:
February 26 at 8:45pm · Like
David Conn I think i just heard a fart in the breeze
February 26 at 8:51pm · Like · 1
Tom Falconieri That might just be that slow ass car you built
February 26 at 8:58pm · Like
Andrew Drewstang Vogt Long time lurker, first time caller. I see both sides here and I think you guys are having a clash of personalities. David, there is an ignore feature on VB that you can use and you will never see another post from Tom. I've read his posts to go back and try to reference it later and find everything deleted because someone's ass got chapped. He's full of knowledge and obviously trusted by owners with alot more cash than most of us. If I was an admin, I'd unban him and monitor his and everyone elses posts for personal attacks, but let him post what he wants. Lets face it. These cars and the knowledge base with them is getting rarer by the day. We need those with good input to post when there is an issue that can't be solved by normal thinking.
February 26 at 8:59pm · Like · 1
David Conn Andrew, the deleted posts you mentioned were all deleted by tom himself, not the admins. This is his pattern. The truth is the forum is a happier place, and he has done nothing but anger, divide and be disrespectful multiple times to multiple forum members. This is not a personal thing. I have nothing against a man i have never met or spoken to. I do have issue with people who demand respect but show none to others. Its not the message, its the messenger. He has been banned on other forums for the same behavior. I am sure there is a forum out there worthy and deserving of his perfect knowledge of everything. I along with 99% of the forum, most of whom are long time members manage to communicate over thousands of posts and threads with respect and friendship. Even when in disagreement. I dont have to ignore him because he is gone and i wish him luck in his internet journey. I respect his skills, but not the man.
February 26 at 9:08pm · Like
Tom Falconieri And that's what's funny Andrew, we have built tons of these cars, tons of 5.0s, my dads been working on 2.3s since 1974 with my moms new pinto and my dad and I have built dozens and dozens of award winning cars, not only at shows but the track.
People get on the Internet and everybody can tell you how to do something, and they have never done it, my father and I have been there, and done it, between us both we have had 6+ fox tbirds, and I'd say 10 mustangs. You could ask my dad anything and he would help someone in a jam in a heartbeat, he's forgotten more things then " professionals " know.. But with that, you get morons like David that's probably built 1 car in his life but will preach to people like us and it's just funny. Every day I see people of forums spreading absolute garbage and false information and have 20 people that agree with them, it's priceless
We got banned from turboford.. Who cares? Does that stop us from building cars? No. Do we lose sleep over it? No, the funny thing is guys on these pages need guys like us that actually have correct information, we don't need them. I got banned years ago and built plenty of fox cars with no forums
February 26 at 9:12pm · Like
Beau McKenzie Like father. Like son. When called out on your arrogance all you shagwits do is throw about these bad ass cars that you work on. Who gives a shag? Not I.
February 26 at 9:14pm · Like
Tom Falconieri What do you work on beau? What certifications do you have? Does anybody hand you the keys to their 4 million dollar car?
Hell do you even have a car over 400whp
February 26 at 9:15pm · Like
Beau McKenzie Grow up. Both of you. Tom,Tom junior. Act like babies when you don't get your way.
February 26 at 9:16pm · Like
Tom Falconieri Get my way? What way don't we get? Answer my questions
February 26 at 9:17pm · Like
David Conn Tom , i am not a moron, nor do i claim to be a mechanic of any kind. I know very basic auto repair, and listen intently to those who know more than i, your dad included. I never derided your fathers skill or ability, or experience. Try and read my words instead of picking a fight where there isnt one. What you just did here is exactly what your dad does. You ignore whats relevant and choose to sidestep the actual conversation which is about his behavior and manners. Your answer instead of looking inward to see why are all these people so set on banning us, is to muddy the discussion with irrelevant things about builds, budgets and experience.
February 26 at 9:19pm · Edited · Like
Tom Falconieri Prove my point even more, love the guys that run their mouths and don't even have ONE nice build under their belt
February 26 at 9:19pm · Like
Beau McKenzie It's not a matter of what I have. I do not have an arrogant....my way is the only way mindset like you guys do. Big shagin whoop what my car does. It makes me happy. I couldn't physically give less of a shiznit what you think makes a bad ass car. 400 horse. ..399..398....who shaging cares..asshole.
February 26 at 9:19pm · Like
Tom Falconieri You posted the video above but I'm irreverent? Good call
February 26 at 9:20pm · Like
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February 26 at 9:21pm · Like
David Conn A man looks inwards at his shortcomings, admits them and takes responsibility. Thats all i have to say. I wish you and your dad luck in your endeavors and good health.
February 26 at 9:23pm · Like
Tom Falconieri Dave it's just funny, you say he has a lot of knowledge and have learned from him yet post things and say so long.
He would help each and every person on that page if he could, no matter how he comes off online
February 26 at 9:42pm · Like
David Conn Read my previous comments tom. I just prefer harmony, and a peaceful forum with old friends and no drama. I have not said a single negative comment about your skill, knowledge or ability. I dont debate your builds, budgets or clients. This is about showing dignity and some class, and taking ownership of the fact that an entire group of basically very nice regular car guys want him gone. Are we all crazy? This is not a lynch mob. There have been dozens of warnings this was coming. Just for the record, i tried sending your dad business 3 months ago. I sent 3 pm's, posted on the forum, and recieved no reply or even a thank you.
And there you have it.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: V8Demon on March 03, 2015, 07:09:08 AM
Post by: V8Demon on March 03, 2015, 07:09:08 AM
I replied.
If he was so willing to help people why then did he not contact you when you reached out to him for a person local to him that needed assistance?
I see he left a trumpet horn comment. I laughed!
If he was so willing to help people why then did he not contact you when you reached out to him for a person local to him that needed assistance?
I see he left a trumpet horn comment. I laughed!
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 03, 2015, 07:40:21 AM
Post by: Beau on March 03, 2015, 07:40:21 AM
I LOL'ed at the horn thing too...
I guess it's ok for them to poke fun at trumpet horns and cars with less than 400 horsepower...I mean, they're big rollers, you know. Ferrari mechanics, and all. LMFAO..
I guess it's ok for them to poke fun at trumpet horns and cars with less than 400 horsepower...I mean, they're big rollers, you know. Ferrari mechanics, and all. LMFAO..
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: V8Demon on March 03, 2015, 07:45:15 AM
Post by: V8Demon on March 03, 2015, 07:45:15 AM
Right, if that were the case they wouldn't be building TC's and F-bodies that are id dire need for paint.
NO PERSON who owns a LaFerrari (how many of those are in the US now anyway, ONE? -- Edit 120 -- color me shocked it was that many) would go outside the Ferrari network for it; even to a shop with Ferrari certified techs (not buying that either). That car is an investment and will likely only see a few hundred miles in a decade. If the work isn't done at an actual Ferrari dealership, the value will plummet.
NO PERSON who owns a LaFerrari (how many of those are in the US now anyway, ONE? -- Edit 120 -- color me shocked it was that many) would go outside the Ferrari network for it; even to a shop with Ferrari certified techs (not buying that either). That car is an investment and will likely only see a few hundred miles in a decade. If the work isn't done at an actual Ferrari dealership, the value will plummet.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Loaded87IROC on March 03, 2015, 08:36:02 AM
Post by: Loaded87IROC on March 03, 2015, 08:36:02 AM
Renzo did have some good information sometimes but quite honestly I would rather struggle through and figure things out myself than accept assistance from him with his assholish, condescending, know-it-all attitude. He seemed to operate with the mentality that there was the Renzo way and the wrong way with room for nothing in between.
Does anybody know the name of the "shop" that they own/work at? I think it would be interesting to read through online reviews of it and see what his customers think. I can't imagine him interacting with paying customers with his lack of people skills. I always did find it odd that he never mentioned his shops name (or I might have missed it...) considering how proud he was of the work the constantly shoved in our faces.
Does anybody know the name of the "shop" that they own/work at? I think it would be interesting to read through online reviews of it and see what his customers think. I can't imagine him interacting with paying customers with his lack of people skills. I always did find it odd that he never mentioned his shops name (or I might have missed it...) considering how proud he was of the work the constantly shoved in our faces.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 50tbrd88 on March 03, 2015, 08:39:16 AM
Post by: 50tbrd88 on March 03, 2015, 08:39:16 AM
If they are so above us and our lowly Fox T-bird/Cougars with custom cupholders and trumpet horns, then why even come around here in the 1st place? Bottom line, they are a couple of arrogant jerks. Every thread Tom posted in turned into a convoluted MESS. Good riddance! Ride off into the sunset on your high horse, d-bag.
Hey, my car has (maybe) an unimpressive 230 hp and was modified by me (a "shadetree mechanic"), so its irrelevant I guess? I came on this site around 10 years ago to learn how to wrench on these cars and make mine better and thoroughly enjoyed it up until Tom showed up. He and he alone really soured this forum for me for quite some time. I am hopeful it will go back to the positive and helpful atmosphere I remember back in the day.
We all need to remember that our goal should be to help each other keep these cars alive for future generations!
Hey, my car has (maybe) an unimpressive 230 hp and was modified by me (a "shadetree mechanic"), so its irrelevant I guess? I came on this site around 10 years ago to learn how to wrench on these cars and make mine better and thoroughly enjoyed it up until Tom showed up. He and he alone really soured this forum for me for quite some time. I am hopeful it will go back to the positive and helpful atmosphere I remember back in the day.
We all need to remember that our goal should be to help each other keep these cars alive for future generations!
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jcassity on March 03, 2015, 09:14:40 AM
Post by: jcassity on March 03, 2015, 09:14:40 AM
I also reached out last spring to simply get tom to build my youngest boys motor "toms way".
I did hear back but the replies swaged way off the topic that I never could get a yes or no.
I totally forgot to bring that up ............
after reading the FB drama, at the end of the day the Toms are right in their own right I should say.
however,
I did happen to notice that when I was having extraordinarily high level tech talk about electrical,, I couldn't get an answer.
*example... "what is the millivolt range on the shunt lead for the buttstuffog cluster ammeter?"
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?38452-Working-AmpMeter-people-chime-in
with that question asked so many times, and to this thread,, I can say many of us have stumped tom Renzo on several occasions. Many of you never noticed because your not really catching the threads.
softtouch provides the knowledge that the shunt lead is a micro-volt range.. that piece helped.
hell, I sound condescending in my posts now that I look at it.
so, at the end of the day, he did know his limitations and learned he did not know everything.
either way like I said,, I didn't mind tom... I could see he was just like the people who trained me up in the past,, it was a "shut up and listen""my way or the highway" experience that I personally think everyone (especially young bucks) need to experience. it teaches being able to take verbal, and mental abuse ,,, many disagree but you've never been through boot camp if you do.
I get it,, yes its condescending,, yes it hurts your feels,,, yeah you get tired of the dram,,, so what.
I did hear back but the replies swaged way off the topic that I never could get a yes or no.
I totally forgot to bring that up ............
after reading the FB drama, at the end of the day the Toms are right in their own right I should say.
however,
I did happen to notice that when I was having extraordinarily high level tech talk about electrical,, I couldn't get an answer.
*example... "what is the millivolt range on the shunt lead for the buttstuffog cluster ammeter?"
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?38452-Working-AmpMeter-people-chime-in
with that question asked so many times, and to this thread,, I can say many of us have stumped tom Renzo on several occasions. Many of you never noticed because your not really catching the threads.
softtouch provides the knowledge that the shunt lead is a micro-volt range.. that piece helped.
hell, I sound condescending in my posts now that I look at it.
so, at the end of the day, he did know his limitations and learned he did not know everything.
either way like I said,, I didn't mind tom... I could see he was just like the people who trained me up in the past,, it was a "shut up and listen""my way or the highway" experience that I personally think everyone (especially young bucks) need to experience. it teaches being able to take verbal, and mental abuse ,,, many disagree but you've never been through boot camp if you do.
I get it,, yes its condescending,, yes it hurts your feels,,, yeah you get tired of the dram,,, so what.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: V8Demon on March 03, 2015, 09:26:43 AM
Post by: V8Demon on March 03, 2015, 09:26:43 AM
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I can say many of us have stumped tom Renzo on several occasions. Many of you never noticed because your not really catching the threads.
Oh, it was noticed.
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I could see he was just like the people who trained me up in the past,, it was a "shut up and listen""my way or the highway" experience that I personally think everyone (especially young bucks) need to experience.
Problem is just as you said though. There ARE other ways in instances and stumping him just shows he's one that should not be taking the "my way or the highway" mentality.
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I get it,, yes its condescending,, yes it hurts your feels,,, yeah you get tired of the dram,,, so what.
Scott, if I wanted that, I'd start an argument with the wife. I think it's safe to say that many people don't come here for that. It grows tiresome. Sure, you can put a person on ignore on a forum, but when they are a prolific poster, you lose the flow of the conversation on occasion.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 03, 2015, 10:44:32 AM
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 03, 2015, 10:44:32 AM
The biggest thing that made me realize how much of an idiot he was, was when he brought up torque specs for worm gear clamps.... seriously? Who the f**k would dig out a torque wrench to tighten a clamp?!? Tom was the reason I left this board for a few years. Oh wow they built an 8 second car. You must be special. I can do that with a s yard 6.0L LSX and a Chinese gt45 turbo.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: V8Demon on March 03, 2015, 11:21:28 AM
Post by: V8Demon on March 03, 2015, 11:21:28 AM
...And watch it last 1 1/2 passes!
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on March 03, 2015, 12:14:51 PM
Post by: jandmmustangs on March 03, 2015, 12:14:51 PM
Long and short of it, both Tom and his kid have a case of very sandy c00ch. Nobody will every extract all the grains.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Haystack on March 03, 2015, 12:33:06 PM
Post by: Haystack on March 03, 2015, 12:33:06 PM
Every replace the sepentine belt on an amg wagon? No thanks. It must have been 300 feet long with about 5 belt tensioners. Turn signal on a maserati? At least 6 hours. Never did work on the bosses ferarri, but in glad i didn't. Tom can keep his $1500 bmw water pumps (have to remove the whole front engine accessories, and the thermostat is built into the PLASTIC waterpump housing) and impress and brag to all the people who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
Ill stick to my 10 minute $5 thermostat.
Ill stick to my 10 minute $5 thermostat.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 03, 2015, 01:51:30 PM
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 03, 2015, 01:51:30 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;445525
...And watch it last 1 1/2 passes!
You haven't been living under a rock lately have you Paul ? Try 1 1/2 seasons
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 03, 2015, 01:57:00 PM
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 03, 2015, 01:57:00 PM
Quote from: jcassity;445488
I was on the phone with another member,, he mentioned people showing up again.. and now shawn pops up.
next will be Master Blaster and Bondo Cougar,, who knows
Myself, I'm waitin' for Crystal...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Chuck W on March 03, 2015, 02:37:27 PM
Post by: Chuck W on March 03, 2015, 02:37:27 PM
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;445532
Myself, I'm waitin' for Crystal...
+1
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: V8Demon on March 03, 2015, 03:34:29 PM
Post by: V8Demon on March 03, 2015, 03:34:29 PM
Quote from: 1WLD BRD;445531
You haven't been living under a rock lately have you Paul ? Try 1 1/2 seasons
Not if you use their turbo piping ;)
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;445532
Myself, I'm waitin' for Crystal...
He sent her packing too? I thought she just had other stuff in life going on.....
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 03, 2015, 03:53:50 PM
Post by: Beau on March 03, 2015, 03:53:50 PM
All else I can say is...thanks...prolific thanks to whomever took the trash out.
And that I'm glad to see some "legacy" screen names back in here.
It seems Tom works out of his own garage, and then he and junior work for some sort of "custom" shop. Tom's own garage consists of the standard repair stuff...on his FB page I saw a pt cruiser, a sable, and some other...most decidedly NOT exotic cars.
No idea what they do at the custom shop, nor do I give a rat's fat ass. I'll stick to my beater Mustangs, my beater Mountaineer, and not have to worry scratching a 10,000 dollar paint job because I decided to take my shiznit to the timber to cut wood.
I'm done here, but again, I reiterate....I'm glad the shiznit is behind us and some original folks are filtering back around.
And that I'm glad to see some "legacy" screen names back in here.
It seems Tom works out of his own garage, and then he and junior work for some sort of "custom" shop. Tom's own garage consists of the standard repair stuff...on his FB page I saw a pt cruiser, a sable, and some other...most decidedly NOT exotic cars.
No idea what they do at the custom shop, nor do I give a rat's fat ass. I'll stick to my beater Mustangs, my beater Mountaineer, and not have to worry scratching a 10,000 dollar paint job because I decided to take my shiznit to the timber to cut wood.
I'm done here, but again, I reiterate....I'm glad the shiznit is behind us and some original folks are filtering back around.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jcassity on March 03, 2015, 06:17:55 PM
Post by: jcassity on March 03, 2015, 06:17:55 PM
Quote from: TurboCoupe50;445532
Myself, I'm waitin' for Crystal...
and Joefriday
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 03, 2015, 06:39:51 PM
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 03, 2015, 06:39:51 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;445536
He sent her packing too? I thought she just had other stuff in life going on.....
Yeah I think you are correct, but we can always hope she makes a entrance again, if nothing else someone may need something welded...
I believe she finally junked her T-Bird due to reoccurring rust issues...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 03, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 03, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;445536
He sent her packing too? I thought she just had other stuff in life going on.....
Yeah I think you are correct, but we can always hope she makes a entrance again, if nothing else someone may need something welded...
I believe she finally junked her T-Bird due to reoccurring rust issues...
Quote from: jcassity;445544
and Joefriday
Yeah no doubt, are several MIA we'd all like to see in the hallways again...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Clayton on March 03, 2015, 06:51:50 PM
Post by: Clayton on March 03, 2015, 06:51:50 PM
Most of us are backyard tinkerers. If I made 7+ figures a year and had all the free time in the world I would be popping cars out of the garage left and right. I think the renzo's didnt know the difference between pride and proud. You work on ferrari's? thats cool dude. I just want to wreck one, just to say I did. I think they were waaaaaay to proud of what they had done that they couldnt see the pride we take in what we've done. Its a fine line ya know? Just because you've slated the "tried and true" method, doesn't mean there isn't another way to do it all together.
I've got a decent chunk sunk into my turd, its uglier than a mud fence and it only runs about half the time but it shes getting there:hick: If anybody
came to me with a question on how I did this or that I'd gladly tell them. Maybe they could take it and make it work for them. I sure as hell ain't going to tell them that's how its GOT TO BE.
I think that was the renzo's biggest faults. They'd tell you how its s'posed to be done, which isn't necessarily the easiest way of going about it, and when someone out foxed them, they got all butthurt about it.
I'm glad to see some of the veterans of the forum are starting to come back around feels like a flashback to 2004.
I've got a decent chunk sunk into my turd, its uglier than a mud fence and it only runs about half the time but it shes getting there:hick: If anybody
came to me with a question on how I did this or that I'd gladly tell them. Maybe they could take it and make it work for them. I sure as hell ain't going to tell them that's how its GOT TO BE.
I think that was the renzo's biggest faults. They'd tell you how its s'posed to be done, which isn't necessarily the easiest way of going about it, and when someone out foxed them, they got all butthurt about it.
I'm glad to see some of the veterans of the forum are starting to come back around feels like a flashback to 2004.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 03, 2015, 07:18:32 PM
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 03, 2015, 07:18:32 PM
Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;445550
I've got a decent chunk sunk into my turd, its uglier than a mud fence and it only runs about half the time but it shes getting there:hick: If anybody
came to me with a question on how I did this or that I'd gladly tell them. Maybe they could take it and make it work for them. I sure as hell ain't going to tell them that's how its GOT TO BE.
I think that was the renzo's biggest faults. They'd tell you how its s'posed to be done, which isn't necessarily the easiest way of going about it, and when someone out foxed them, they got all butthurt about it.
I'm glad to see some of the veterans of the forum are starting to come back around feels like a flashback to 2004.
Yeah not all of us(actually I'd be surprised if anyone does) live by the statement in Renzo's sig, "I build cars with money I don't have to impress people I don't know"...
I've charged a few things for my cars, but nothing I couldn't pay off in two or three months(Hell I've only financed four vehicles in my life, still own two of those), main difference is I don't give a rat's ass what anyone else thinks, I built it for myself...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 03, 2015, 07:59:51 PM
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 03, 2015, 07:59:51 PM
^ like.
I am the same way. I like the tbirds and cougars because around here they are more rare then a Ferrari or lambo. And I like surprising mustangs and camaros at the strip
I am the same way. I like the tbirds and cougars because around here they are more rare then a Ferrari or lambo. And I like surprising mustangs and camaros at the strip
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 03, 2015, 08:08:43 PM
Post by: Beau on March 03, 2015, 08:08:43 PM
Exactly right. This Mustang I'm working on...it's nothing hot, or special. Just a GT40-ized 5.0 HO bottom end, will have an E cam soon, and a Cobra intake topping it off.
I don't care if it impresses 25, one, or none. It's mine and I did most of the work to date on it, save for putting the springs in the heads. I went with a mild "build" because I knew that assembled correctly, it would give reliable power, a bit more than stock, and not cost me 3,000 dollars. It will be plenty fast for me for awhile...and later on there's always the definite possibility of a little boost.
Yeah, I've got a thread on it, but it's not to stroke my ego. If I feel like I need to be fluffed up, I've got other skillsets that are much more developed than my ability to put a few puzzle pieces together in a proper sequence.
Renzo can build a hotrod (maybe..wouldn't quite swear to it, myself) but I bet i can outshoot him, and with a hunting knife, I'm pretty ed good at gutting and peeling deer and such.
Then again, I've only been shooting since I was 6 years old...but don't take my word for it...ask 88turbo here in a few weeks...we're gonna meet up again, and go "hunt" some paper plates that have an apparent death wish. :D
I'll leave the tales of my ability with a Walther and a Winchester up to him...I got out of the bragging stage concerning bullet placement before I was into my teens. ;)
One other thing...I can play a meaner air guitar than most, too. Getting me to actually do it however takes more alcohol than I ever plan to drink again, so you'll just have to believe me on that one LOL.
I don't care if it impresses 25, one, or none. It's mine and I did most of the work to date on it, save for putting the springs in the heads. I went with a mild "build" because I knew that assembled correctly, it would give reliable power, a bit more than stock, and not cost me 3,000 dollars. It will be plenty fast for me for awhile...and later on there's always the definite possibility of a little boost.
Yeah, I've got a thread on it, but it's not to stroke my ego. If I feel like I need to be fluffed up, I've got other skillsets that are much more developed than my ability to put a few puzzle pieces together in a proper sequence.
Renzo can build a hotrod (maybe..wouldn't quite swear to it, myself) but I bet i can outshoot him, and with a hunting knife, I'm pretty ed good at gutting and peeling deer and such.
Then again, I've only been shooting since I was 6 years old...but don't take my word for it...ask 88turbo here in a few weeks...we're gonna meet up again, and go "hunt" some paper plates that have an apparent death wish. :D
I'll leave the tales of my ability with a Walther and a Winchester up to him...I got out of the bragging stage concerning bullet placement before I was into my teens. ;)
One other thing...I can play a meaner air guitar than most, too. Getting me to actually do it however takes more alcohol than I ever plan to drink again, so you'll just have to believe me on that one LOL.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on March 03, 2015, 09:13:10 PM
Post by: jandmmustangs on March 03, 2015, 09:13:10 PM
Do you still headbang when you play the air axe?
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 03, 2015, 09:23:39 PM
Post by: Beau on March 03, 2015, 09:23:39 PM
Yes sir...and I duckwalk like Angus Young, too ;)
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on March 03, 2015, 09:25:41 PM
Post by: jandmmustangs on March 03, 2015, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;445567
Yes sir...and I duckwalk like Angus Young, too ;)
Christ, I'd like to see that sometime...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on March 03, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on March 03, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
No wonder you need some adult beverage. lol!!
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Thunder Chicken on March 04, 2015, 11:31:36 AM
Post by: Thunder Chicken on March 04, 2015, 11:31:36 AM
You guys all realize you're trying to justify your hobby to somebody who (a) is now gone, (b) doesn't care, and (c) doesn't matter, right? We all like the cars we like because we like them, and I don't think many of us really care about the opinions of others, as Tom pointed out. If we did we'd all be lasting after Camaros and Mustangs instead of 80's T-Birds & Cougars.
Tom should have added a little bit to that "money I don't have, etc" signature. Something about "cars I don't own".
If Rezno's measure of success is working on other people's expensive cars I pity him. I've just spent the morning working on a quarter million dollar tractor. That's more expensive than most Ferraris and Lambos. And because I work on it, that makes me as rich and important than the guy that owns it, right? ....right? Should I start posting pics of the cars (and tractors) I work on so you'll all think I'm cool? Actually, don't answer that - I work at a honda dealership, so cars that impress are few and far between...
Tom should have added a little bit to that "money I don't have, etc" signature. Something about "cars I don't own".
If Rezno's measure of success is working on other people's expensive cars I pity him. I've just spent the morning working on a quarter million dollar tractor. That's more expensive than most Ferraris and Lambos. And because I work on it, that makes me as rich and important than the guy that owns it, right? ....right? Should I start posting pics of the cars (and tractors) I work on so you'll all think I'm cool? Actually, don't answer that - I work at a honda dealership, so cars that impress are few and far between...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 04, 2015, 11:42:58 AM
Post by: Beau on March 04, 2015, 11:42:58 AM
I've got 2 Case 1270's, a Ford 4000 gas, a Ford 5000 diesel, an 8N, and a Centennial. Not to mention 4 John Deere combines.
They may not all be worth as much a Ferrari, but I can I can tell you the google earth coordinates if you want to see them for yourself LOL.
"Oh, you have a $50,000 Corvette that you drive 6 months out of the year?
Bitch, please. We have 300,000 dollar combines we drive for two weeks every fall."
Farm logic, north missouri style. :D
They may not all be worth as much a Ferrari, but I can I can tell you the google earth coordinates if you want to see them for yourself LOL.
"Oh, you have a $50,000 Corvette that you drive 6 months out of the year?
Bitch, please. We have 300,000 dollar combines we drive for two weeks every fall."
Farm logic, north missouri style. :D
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: CoogarXR on March 04, 2015, 01:24:44 PM
Post by: CoogarXR on March 04, 2015, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;445579
"Bitch, please"
I just pictured an old farmer, in a flannel shirt and John Deer hat, leaning against a 6ft-tall tractor tire, grabbing his nuts, spitting his tobacco on the ground and saying "Bitch, please!" with a nice southern tschlong. And then I LOL'd to myself.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 04, 2015, 02:11:41 PM
Post by: Beau on March 04, 2015, 02:11:41 PM
That'd would be my dad, except he'd never have the imagination to say bitch, please, and getting him to talk whatsoever usually involves an act of congress. No southern accent, either..lol.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Thunder Chicken on March 04, 2015, 04:04:08 PM
Post by: Thunder Chicken on March 04, 2015, 04:04:08 PM
I literaly laughed out loud at that too, Beau. Thanks for that, after the rush hour commute I've just endured
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: ZondaC12 on March 04, 2015, 04:25:25 PM
Post by: ZondaC12 on March 04, 2015, 04:25:25 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;445578
You guys all realize you're trying to justify your hobby to somebody who (a) is now gone, (b) doesn't care, and (c) doesn't matter, right? We all like the cars we like because we like them, and I don't think many of us really care about the opinions of others, as Tom pointed out. If we did we'd all be lasting after Camaros and Mustangs instead of 80's T-Birds & Cougars.
This is a meaningful statement within the scope of this forum...FAMILY rather!!!....but the sad truth is that this is a microcosm for a much bigger population. And it's the difference between real enthusiasts and those are are just trying to make a profit but "like" cars. And that right there is a black-white dichotomy, we all know there are shades of grey in between (no I'm not making the reference you think I am shadaap!!! :D )
But we've ALL experienced "ridicule" or questioning of our vehicle choice, regardless of our available resources. ESPECIALLY for those here that have plenty of money to throw around on toys. "Whydja buy...that?" We have to justify our enthusiasm at least some of the time, and it's not always easy. I can't count how many people are impressed with the creature comfort of my cougar and with the overall package. But that rear window remains polarizing and will surely always be. The TBirds solve that problem but so many people will ask "Well why not a Mustang? Lose that dead weight!" And still others just "don't get it". They never knew the car existed and can't imagine why one would go out of one's way to find it.
So no, do we care what this guy thinks? No. But do we care what the general public thinks? Yes, maybe secretly, but you do. Don't deny it ;) We're all a bit "strange" in the eyes of many. And there shouldn't be anything wrong with marching to the beat of a different drum. This is as old a discussion as life itself. But the struggle continues on as societies effect a general convergence and conformity to some set of common ideas and values. If you don't ever for even a moment wonder if you "belong", great! You're strong-willed. I admit that I can't always do that, and sometimes wonder if I should just be doing what the "in-crowd" does because they seem so full of themselves and having such a good time slapping each others' backs.
But then I remember how much I enjoy being me. I can't be anything else and I don't want to be. And it's a good thing this place exists so other people can help me be ME and encourage my bizzare behavior. So far, it's done just that, time and again!!! And I hope I do a good job of likewise returning the favor.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 04, 2015, 04:31:09 PM
Post by: Beau on March 04, 2015, 04:31:09 PM
A few more laughers for y'all;
Easy money ain't.
The bull is always meaner when he's on your side of the wire.
Never trust politicians, farts, or rattlesnakes.
Don't pee on fences.
Three things you should never mess with; bees, bulls, and bears.
Make it 4 things. Another man's wife.
And never ever say "hey, hold my beer and watch THIS!"
;)
Easy money ain't.
The bull is always meaner when he's on your side of the wire.
Never trust politicians, farts, or rattlesnakes.
Don't pee on fences.
Three things you should never mess with; bees, bulls, and bears.
Make it 4 things. Another man's wife.
And never ever say "hey, hold my beer and watch THIS!"
;)
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: thunderjet302 on March 05, 2015, 05:58:47 PM
Post by: thunderjet302 on March 05, 2015, 05:58:47 PM
Late to the party but the guy used to pass me off by either not admitting when he was wrong or trying to over complicate things to solve a simple problem. I'm not an expert on car repair or a professional mechanic but since these cars are my hoby I kinda know a thing or two about repairing them: http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?38303-low-end-power-disappeared/page3
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jcassity on March 05, 2015, 06:31:45 PM
Post by: jcassity on March 05, 2015, 06:31:45 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;445636
Late to the party but the guy used to pass me off by either not admitting when he was wrong or trying to over complicate things to solve a simple problem. I'm not an expert on car repair or a professional mechanic but since these cars are my hoby I kinda know a thing or two about repairing them: http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?38303-low-end-power-disappeared/page3
yeah right,, not an expert,, I hear ya
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Chrome on March 05, 2015, 08:03:27 PM
Post by: Chrome on March 05, 2015, 08:03:27 PM
Well, this can go on and on. He should have been gone a long time ago. Let's move forward. Can anyone think of people that have been ran off by Renzo's attitude? It's time to track these people down, and let them know about his leaving. Let's get some people back!
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Tbird232ci on March 05, 2015, 08:37:58 PM
Post by: Tbird232ci on March 05, 2015, 08:37:58 PM
I jumped in this thread, kinda skimmed it but didn't realize that you were talking about the same prick who was a pain in the ass back when I still had my TC. He hopped on the f-body forums and was an arrogant prick over there too. Difference is is that those guys seemed to stroke his ego. Over there you just have to build something like everyone else and you fit right in.
Holy hell! All these years and Zonda is STILL long winded!
Quote from: ZondaC12;445587
This is a meaningful statement within the scope of this forum...FAMILY rather!!!....but the sad truth is that this is a microcosm for a much bigger population. And it's the difference between real enthusiasts and those are are just trying to make a profit but "like" cars. And that right there is a black-white dichotomy, we all know there are shades of grey in between (no I'm not making the reference you think I am shadaap!!! :D )
But we've ALL experienced "ridicule" or questioning of our vehicle choice, regardless of our available resources. ESPECIALLY for those here that have plenty of money to throw around on toys. "Whydja buy...that?" We have to justify our enthusiasm at least some of the time, and it's not always easy. I can't count how many people are impressed with the creature comfort of my cougar and with the overall package. But that rear window remains polarizing and will surely always be. The TBirds solve that problem but so many people will ask "Well why not a Mustang? Lose that dead weight!" And still others just "don't get it". They never knew the car existed and can't imagine why one would go out of one's way to find it.
So no, do we care what this guy thinks? No. But do we care what the general public thinks? Yes, maybe secretly, but you do. Don't deny it ;) We're all a bit "strange" in the eyes of many. And there shouldn't be anything wrong with marching to the beat of a different drum. This is as old a discussion as life itself. But the struggle continues on as societies effect a general convergence and conformity to some set of common ideas and values. If you don't ever for even a moment wonder if you "belong", great! You're strong-willed. I admit that I can't always do that, and sometimes wonder if I should just be doing what the "in-crowd" does because they seem so full of themselves and having such a good time slapping each others' backs.
But then I remember how much I enjoy being me. I can't be anything else and I don't want to be. And it's a good thing this place exists so other people can help me be ME and encourage my bizzare behavior. So far, it's done just that, time and again!!! And I hope I do a good job of likewise returning the favor.
Holy hell! All these years and Zonda is STILL long winded!
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 05, 2015, 08:49:18 PM
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 05, 2015, 08:49:18 PM
Girls never run out of breath Shawn. Especially when. It's that time of month. Lol
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Tbird232ci on March 05, 2015, 09:24:20 PM
Post by: Tbird232ci on March 05, 2015, 09:24:20 PM
Quote from: 1WLD BRD;445656
Girls never run out of breath Shawn. Especially when. It's that time of month. Lol
So whats his excuse for the other 3 weeks out of the month?
Eh?
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: ZondaC12 on March 05, 2015, 11:09:23 PM
Post by: ZondaC12 on March 05, 2015, 11:09:23 PM
I can't help it. I think about a lotta stuff lol. And I can't ever pick out the important thoughts from the unimportant ones. So I just say everything I'm thinking. :D
But seriously. It's EASY to SAY "Eff the haters I don't care what anyone thinks of me" and a lot harder to actually not care. Then you lose friends, you're lonely and life sucks.
But seriously. It's EASY to SAY "Eff the haters I don't care what anyone thinks of me" and a lot harder to actually not care. Then you lose friends, you're lonely and life sucks.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 06, 2015, 07:46:31 AM
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 06, 2015, 07:46:31 AM
Quote from: Tbird232ci;445658
So whats his excuse for the other 3 weeks out of the month?
Eh?
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: V8Demon on March 06, 2015, 08:28:03 AM
Post by: V8Demon on March 06, 2015, 08:28:03 AM
Oh, look.... I put forth the same thoughts in the horn thread referenced in the first post that I did here.....
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?38303-low-end-power-disappeared&p=442231#post442231
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?38303-low-end-power-disappeared&p=442231#post442231
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Tbird232ci on March 06, 2015, 04:08:52 PM
Post by: Tbird232ci on March 06, 2015, 04:08:52 PM
Quote from: 1WLD BRD;445669
Good god, I just pictured you saying "eh" with your accent and remembering hanging out at catjam making fun of each others accents and started lmao.
I was really hoping you were going to pick up on that. That's something I don't think I'll ever forget.
"I'm ABOOT to kick your ass, EH!"
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Chrome on March 06, 2015, 06:41:12 PM
Post by: Chrome on March 06, 2015, 06:41:12 PM
Quote from: 1WLD BRD;445669
Good god, I just pictured you saying "eh" with your accent and remembering hanging out at catjam making fun of each others accents and started lmao.
Let me join in and it'll be a total giggle fest!
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jcassity on March 06, 2015, 07:23:10 PM
Post by: jcassity on March 06, 2015, 07:23:10 PM
how many "other words" does "eh" equal??? eh?
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 06, 2015, 08:36:32 PM
Post by: Beau on March 06, 2015, 08:36:32 PM
Next thing you know, making fun of someone's accent will be right up there with racial slurs, shagual innuendos, and religious insults.
I've got a good friend in Rhode Island....first time I met her, I couldn't help but make fun of her accent. "Where do you pahk ya cah?"
What was even more funny was listening to her (try to) make fun of my midwestern tschlong...LMAO.
I personally don't get too riled up when someone's joking with me...but with all things, there's a line that can be crossed. In my case, as far as religion, race, accent, or whatnot, it's a pretty broad, visible line. I'll usually cut someone off at the pass when it borders on straight up insult, as well.
And putting LS engines in Ford vehicle is not any different than sleeping with your own siblings....ya just don't do it.
Y'all Canucks can keep Canada...we've got enough skeeters down here without those giant bloodsucking sumbitches y'all have. Jesus...what are those things from? An orgy between Dracula, and a T-rex that got gangraped by a squadron of harrier jump jets? LOL.
I've got a good friend in Rhode Island....first time I met her, I couldn't help but make fun of her accent. "Where do you pahk ya cah?"
What was even more funny was listening to her (try to) make fun of my midwestern tschlong...LMAO.
I personally don't get too riled up when someone's joking with me...but with all things, there's a line that can be crossed. In my case, as far as religion, race, accent, or whatnot, it's a pretty broad, visible line. I'll usually cut someone off at the pass when it borders on straight up insult, as well.
And putting LS engines in Ford vehicle is not any different than sleeping with your own siblings....ya just don't do it.
Y'all Canucks can keep Canada...we've got enough skeeters down here without those giant bloodsucking sumbitches y'all have. Jesus...what are those things from? An orgy between Dracula, and a T-rex that got gangraped by a squadron of harrier jump jets? LOL.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 07, 2015, 09:31:20 AM
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 07, 2015, 09:31:20 AM
Quote
And putting LS engines in Ford vehicle is not any different than sleeping with your own siblings....ya just don't do it.
I use to be ignorant like that too. But then after dumping thousands into my 5.0L with trick flow heads, intakes and vortech superchargers I realized just how much garbage fords 5.0L is. Plus it maxs at a safe level around 500hp the LS stock bottom and block has been proven to handle well past 1000hp and you can get them from s yards for less then $500. Sorry man. I have gotten wiser and smarter with where I put my coin. My T Bird will be LSX turbo powered this summer
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 07, 2015, 10:14:31 AM
Post by: Beau on March 07, 2015, 10:14:31 AM
Ignorance isn't the word I'd use to describe your reasoning..
One can also find 32v 4.6, and occasionally Navi 5.4 engines in yards...I personally saw 6 Mark VIII's yesterday, and believe me, if I'd had time, one of those engines would've came home with me.
Yeah, I know the LS is cheap power...but once you start adding bolt ons, they're no cheaper than any other pushrod block.
I also LOL at guys who have 10,000 dollar paint on their Mustang, and a 500 dollar engine with headers and a bigger TB, and brag about how much power they make. ;)
In the end, it's your car, I'm just saying there's Ford options that are no less capable, but I will give you that LS engines are fairly common.
But, so are cat turds in a litter box on the crazy old cat lady's back porch. :D
One can also find 32v 4.6, and occasionally Navi 5.4 engines in yards...I personally saw 6 Mark VIII's yesterday, and believe me, if I'd had time, one of those engines would've came home with me.
Yeah, I know the LS is cheap power...but once you start adding bolt ons, they're no cheaper than any other pushrod block.
I also LOL at guys who have 10,000 dollar paint on their Mustang, and a 500 dollar engine with headers and a bigger TB, and brag about how much power they make. ;)
In the end, it's your car, I'm just saying there's Ford options that are no less capable, but I will give you that LS engines are fairly common.
But, so are cat turds in a litter box on the crazy old cat lady's back porch. :D
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Thunder Chicken on March 07, 2015, 10:42:11 AM
Post by: Thunder Chicken on March 07, 2015, 10:42:11 AM
"Aboot"... Ah yes, thank you South Park...
For the record, any time you hear a Canadian say "Aboot", he's describing this:
As for the LS into Swap thing - I feel this "Peaceful protest thread" is about to become a lot less "peaceful" :mullet:
That being said, I'd swap an LS into a four-eye Bird in an.. um.. heartbeat. The most basic LM7 5.3 is making about as much power bone stock as a 5.0 with heads, cam & intake. A cam and a tune and you're well north of 400 horses. That's why I say that I wouldn't care what drivetrain was in any future four-eye that I end up owning, because it'd be yanked out and recycled into a new Kia anyway
For the record, any time you hear a Canadian say "Aboot", he's describing this:
As for the LS into Swap thing - I feel this "Peaceful protest thread" is about to become a lot less "peaceful" :mullet:
That being said, I'd swap an LS into a four-eye Bird in an.. um.. heartbeat. The most basic LM7 5.3 is making about as much power bone stock as a 5.0 with heads, cam & intake. A cam and a tune and you're well north of 400 horses. That's why I say that I wouldn't care what drivetrain was in any future four-eye that I end up owning, because it'd be yanked out and recycled into a new Kia anyway
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Aerocoupe on March 07, 2015, 11:12:09 AM
Post by: Aerocoupe on March 07, 2015, 11:12:09 AM
What I love about an LS motor is that everyone says how much more power they make than a 5.0...I would hope so as the LS motors have more cubic inches to begin with. The high horsepower LS motors were in the GM performance cars where the trucks got the LS Vortec motors that were detuned and the torque was bumped up for obvious reasons.
LS Motors
LS1/LS6 - 346 cu in (5.7 L)
LS2 - 364 cu in (6.0 L)
LS3/L99 - 376 cu in (6.2 L)
LS4 - 327 cu in (5.3 L)
LS9 - 376 cu in (6.2 L) super charged ZR1 motor
LSA - Detuned LS9 for the Cadillacs
So saying a person is going to throw an LS motor and a turbo into a car does not really tell me much about the build due to all the various "LS" motors and different turbo configurations. The $500 LS motors in the junk yard are typically the 5.3L truck Vortec motors due to their sheer abundance. That is still 327 cu in so its a good start (about 320 flywheel hp stock) but typically this motor will need a camshaft, intake, head work or different LS family heads, a stand alone programmer for the fuel injection & ignition or a carb setup and what ever it takes to get spark. The list goes on and on as you will need some kind of special K-member, drive shaft work, transmission mount, a transmission, and if its one of the new auto transmissions possibly an aftermarket box to control the shifts on that as well. With all of that $500 can grow like crazy just like any other build. Now if you just throw a turbo at a stock 5.3 L Vortec then my guess is 500 flywheel hp would be very attainable. Anything more than that and you start getting into tearing the motor down to mess with ring gap, cams, heads, intakes, throttle bodies, etc. all of which are not cheap so 1,000 flywheel hp on a $500 junk yard motor is pushing it without spending the money. The short blocks will take it with some minor work but its still not cheap.
For all of that I would just build a 351W and save myself some headache but that's just me. The LS motor and the turbo will be a bad mofookie if done correctly so I'm not saying they will not build HP because they will just like putting a 440 Hemi and a turbo in a car will make HP. I just think it is cool that people build what they like and if you take the time to see the work that went into it then that is what makes us car guys and the occasional gal (wish we had more women interested in all of this).
Darren
LS Motors
LS1/LS6 - 346 cu in (5.7 L)
LS2 - 364 cu in (6.0 L)
LS3/L99 - 376 cu in (6.2 L)
LS4 - 327 cu in (5.3 L)
LS9 - 376 cu in (6.2 L) super charged ZR1 motor
LSA - Detuned LS9 for the Cadillacs
So saying a person is going to throw an LS motor and a turbo into a car does not really tell me much about the build due to all the various "LS" motors and different turbo configurations. The $500 LS motors in the junk yard are typically the 5.3L truck Vortec motors due to their sheer abundance. That is still 327 cu in so its a good start (about 320 flywheel hp stock) but typically this motor will need a camshaft, intake, head work or different LS family heads, a stand alone programmer for the fuel injection & ignition or a carb setup and what ever it takes to get spark. The list goes on and on as you will need some kind of special K-member, drive shaft work, transmission mount, a transmission, and if its one of the new auto transmissions possibly an aftermarket box to control the shifts on that as well. With all of that $500 can grow like crazy just like any other build. Now if you just throw a turbo at a stock 5.3 L Vortec then my guess is 500 flywheel hp would be very attainable. Anything more than that and you start getting into tearing the motor down to mess with ring gap, cams, heads, intakes, throttle bodies, etc. all of which are not cheap so 1,000 flywheel hp on a $500 junk yard motor is pushing it without spending the money. The short blocks will take it with some minor work but its still not cheap.
For all of that I would just build a 351W and save myself some headache but that's just me. The LS motor and the turbo will be a bad mofookie if done correctly so I'm not saying they will not build HP because they will just like putting a 440 Hemi and a turbo in a car will make HP. I just think it is cool that people build what they like and if you take the time to see the work that went into it then that is what makes us car guys and the occasional gal (wish we had more women interested in all of this).
Darren
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 07, 2015, 11:14:02 AM
Post by: Beau on March 07, 2015, 11:14:02 AM
No sir..LOL. I've said all I needed to say about what I think of LS swaps. Probably said it 3 or 4 years ago, at that. :D
I want to put a flathead engine in my next Tbird...
I want to put a flathead engine in my next Tbird...
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Aerocoupe on March 07, 2015, 11:17:28 AM
Post by: Aerocoupe on March 07, 2015, 11:17:28 AM
That would be bad ass man! Maybe a turbo to boot????
Darren
Darren
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 07, 2015, 11:30:02 AM
Post by: 1WLD BRD on March 07, 2015, 11:30:02 AM
Darren I have a buddy up here that swapped a junkyard 5.3 into his stang with an s480 turbo and a th400 and he is getting great fuel milage and putting down over 750hp at the wheels. All on a very cheap budget and with out k member, heads or intake or anything fancier then a stock LS9 cam. Fast Ed can confirm it. You are WAY over thinking the swap. And yes it is MUCH MUCH CHEAPER then any Ford build. Including your mod motor. Just the timing chains on those are north of $1,200 to do around here. No thanks. Mod motors are far from budget in any version.
To each there own. But I would rather save money where I can and still have a very fast car with money still in my bank account after.
LS Turbo Foxbody Dyno - 672WHP, 735TQ: http://youtu.be/-21_oiCKeDc
sorry about the highjack guys.
To each there own. But I would rather save money where I can and still have a very fast car with money still in my bank account after.
LS Turbo Foxbody Dyno - 672WHP, 735TQ: http://youtu.be/-21_oiCKeDc
sorry about the highjack guys.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 07, 2015, 11:38:54 AM
Post by: Beau on March 07, 2015, 11:38:54 AM
Quote from: Aerocoupe;445711
That would be bad ass man! Maybe a turbo to boot????
Darren
Yes! As soon as I figure out how to get this shop vac to run backwards...then mount my power inverter. :D
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on March 07, 2015, 12:31:41 PM
Post by: jandmmustangs on March 07, 2015, 12:31:41 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;445713
Yes! As soon as I figure out how to get this shop vac to run backwards...then mount my power inverter. :D
Don't waste your time with a shop vac. Do this...
http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/hrdp-1105-leaf-blower-supercharger/
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 07, 2015, 01:23:45 PM
Post by: Beau on March 07, 2015, 01:23:45 PM
Well, that's a pretty good use for a C4 Vette. Cut it up and put a carb motor in it.
I'd rather leave it whole, put about 15 pounds of tannerite on the driver's seat, and unlimber some 150 gr .308 at it. :D
I'd rather leave it whole, put about 15 pounds of tannerite on the driver's seat, and unlimber some 150 gr .308 at it. :D
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: jandmmustangs on March 07, 2015, 01:50:01 PM
Post by: jandmmustangs on March 07, 2015, 01:50:01 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;445719
Well, that's a pretty good use for a C4 Vette. Cut it up and put a carb motor in it.
I'd rather leave it whole, put about 15 pounds of tannerite on the driver's seat, and unlimber some 150 gr .308 at it. :D
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Beau on March 07, 2015, 02:38:47 PM
Post by: Beau on March 07, 2015, 02:38:47 PM
Let's go shootin'. ;)
I may not have any c4 vettes, but I am sure we can scare up a few camaros. Equally as good for my intentions :)
I may not have any c4 vettes, but I am sure we can scare up a few camaros. Equally as good for my intentions :)
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: Tbird232ci on March 09, 2015, 12:15:35 AM
Post by: Tbird232ci on March 09, 2015, 12:15:35 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;445690
And putting LS engines in Ford vehicle is not any different than sleeping with your own siblings....ya just don't do it.
You don't do it if you enjoy going slow.
Title: Peaceful protest thread
Post by: V8Demon on March 09, 2015, 09:31:55 AM
Post by: V8Demon on March 09, 2015, 09:31:55 AM
10's.....
In the Mustang......
With a 4.6.....
Stock block and rotating assembly......
Full weight car.....
A/C, cruise, and zero fear of long road trips.....
Coming in May!
In the Mustang......
With a 4.6.....
Stock block and rotating assembly......
Full weight car.....
A/C, cruise, and zero fear of long road trips.....
Coming in May!