Cadillac horns......
Observe.....
Trumpet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpgorFRQrdU
4note
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpGZ6gz1K78
All electric, no air, louder than stock yet not stupidly so (at least in MY opinion).
Apparently they take a good amount of of current to run. Now that I have the new alternator and the charging system figured out, I can do this.
I'm actually wanting to run the old school late '60's-early '70's horns with the trumpet as opposed to the ones that came later. The problem with that is packaging and availability. I don't know if it's the sound clips I'm listening to, but the older ones sound a bit different as well to me. Is this actually the case? Never heard them back to back in person to compare......
I'm looking for some stock horn wiring diagrams for the following vehicles:
1987 Mercury Cougar
1969 Cadillac Fleetwood
1990 Cadillac Fleetwood
I know the 4 note setup consists of the following notes: A,C, D, F
I was wondering if anyone knew what the notes were on the older setups a la 64-72?
What about the horns from a Mark VII? The horns on my Mark VII are louder than the ones on my Thunderbird. People think it sounds like a yacht :rollin:.
AFAIK, the Lincs just had standard high and low note horns..... They might be different notes than the stockers on the Catbirds.....
Still this is more impressive to me.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3e5BCE9zFI
Also, a little history: http://www.delcoremyhistory.com/Products/horns.htm
http://www.61-62cadillacs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=750
Basically you want a freight train horn? The Cadillac horns "should" work. I probably is just a couple wire hook up like the stock horn.
Now if you want to be stupid the Nathan K3LA sounds awesome :hick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REgew346TGw
I'd actually prefer to have the old school sound that I BELIEVE is the high/low standard horns and the 9 inch trumpet. There's a set up on eBay right now but its overpriced for the condition in my opinion.
I'll stay with the horns the Sport was born with.
Cadillac Trumpet horns is what i use.
Like I said, I THINK the particular set I'm looking for is the standard Hi-low with the 3rd horn which is the trumpet. I know there are a few different trumpets as well, the unicorn being the 24 inch long from what I believe is the '62 Eldorado Convertible. Most others were the 9 inch style trumpets. They sell the later 4 notes (the 4 conch style) on Ebay for about $70 refurbished and with a warranty.
FWIW -- Here's a 24" trumpet for sale.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-24-DELCO-REMY-TYPE-S-TRUMPET-HORN-w-Bracket-CADILLAC-BUICK-OLDSMOBILE-GM-/291177952348?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43cb8ef45c&vxp=mtr
From what I understand, this is a killer price at $450. I'll go with the 9 inch. It'll suit my needs, can be found for less, and I will not have taken a bit of history from one of those who want a perfect restoration of a Caddy.
Just made an offer on a 4 note setup on Evilbay. *Fingers crossed*
A friend was doing some work on a co-worker's 1974 Impala 2dr coupe, it had a "snail"-style modern type horn, but it was BIG (about the diameter of a CD) and he scared me by hitting the horn while I was leaning over the header panel checking out the engine bay. That horn was not like a locomotive air horn but was WAY louder than any typical late 80's or newer horn. My stock Cougar horn seemed absolutely useless compared to this thing...
Probably the dual snail with a trumpet setup. Caddys had it until the late '70's I believe. I know other GM products received it as well.
My offer was declined, yet the item "sold" within minutes of my offer being declined. I'm guessing the seller took the item down and will relist it without a "make offer" option.
Guess I'll keep looking.
Found a set of horns for a good price, 4 note later style snail horns with the 2 wire setup.
I'm looking to wire it in with 2 relays similar to how it is shown here:
http://www.local1259iaff.org/cadillac4notehorns.html
Direct link to the wiring diagram:
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t141/FirePro911/trainhornsschematic_zps5b88be21.jpg)
I can get the relays with a pigtail setup for $10 a piece at the local speed shop. They're weather-proofed to boot.
My only issue is the fact that I don't know how keen I am in running the power wires direct to the battery. In my opinion it gives a cluttered and non-stock appearance. The point of my going with these as opposed to an airhorn or the like was to give a stock appearance. Something that the factory would have churned out.
Guess I'll be hunting for Caddy EVTM's....
Possibly run one larger wire to the positive side of the starter solenoid with one inline fuse and then split the power to the relays?
X2. My crown vic had a bracket that came off of the solinoid with another stud to attach additional fuseable links to. You could put the fuse right by the horn if you wanted to hide it, or use a fuseable link.
These draw a LOT of juice. I would never even attempt this with a stock charging system. I think an inline fuse would work better than a link in this case.
Here we go again building a power plant in your engine to TOOT a couple of horns. WOW???????????????????????
Diff'rent Strokes, Diff'rent Folks.
Much rather see this than another Mustang that suddenly "got" fast because holy shiznit, they put an LS in it. SMH.
How is this a power plant in my engine? That doesn't even make any sense. Put the jug of wine down.
I'm gonna go on record right here, right now; I'm not a fan of yours, and that's saying it
VERY nicely. Your experience is beneficial to the members here, but your tantrums that you've thrown in the past where you delete your posts and instigate arguments with numerous other persons here is annoying to say the least. The fact that you've even been allowed to act in such a manner time and time again here is borderline infuriating. It is because of your experience here that you have been given a pass, more than once. I expect you are intelligent enough to realize that. I suspect that you may have taken advantage of it. I didn't post on here for well over a year, almost two. One of the main contributing factors besides my disgust with the state of my once proud car at the time, was the numerous diatribes that were commencing, quite a few of which you were the center of. When I returned it seemed to have calmed down and then you went at it again with a couple of folk. I don't have the patience to deal with such drivel at this point in my life. I have way too much work to do around my home and it's way too cold out.
I typed a few weeks ago that perhaps I should take a break from here...... Now I'm certain of it.
To any and all here who wish to contact me, please feel free to do so at V8Demon@hotmail.com
I'll see you guys on the FB pages and groups, but a certain someone has soured this place for me for now.
Auf Wiedersehen and good fortune to all.