Now,, think about the year of this car and what you would expect to be wrong
now understand that for the past 15 years this car has been in a garage. This diamond in the ruff has beat father time in my opinion. There are things about mustangs that are understood to be wrong such as where the trunk meets the rear qtr panels. In that seem, there is alway rust holes so its rare to find one like this without holes. The only major is a hole in the passanger floor pan which has been patched but not a good patch.
Othere than that folks,, this stang makes you feel like you rolled the clock back to 25 years and your dealing the the typical minor issues of a used car.
the 300 6cyl is original and the chassis has the normal corrosion you would expect from a car with 8 to 10 years of use,, not a 38 year old car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
here are some pics..,, i got some under the car shots also but they are pretty dark. the underside is so cherry.
One thing i noticed right off was the fact the the windshield was not fogged up around the lower trim!!!!! its hard as hell to find a factory windshield without the fogged up glass!!!
The guy wants 2500 ,,, Turn the key and drive it home today. Now where else could you find a 67 mustang that you could simply vac the rug and armoral the leather and take er for a spin?
The wife says it would make her a good project while im gone and wanted to see if you guys could offer advice now and again if she created and account here.
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that should only be a 200ci engine in those, with basically a tractor carb
looks to be a great car
yeah they have cruddy carbs. but with some work it could be pretty good.
Scott by the grille and dash thats a '66. IF they say its a '67 you better check the title and vin numbers.
Its beggin' for a 289 and a 5 lug swap....
No love for the I6..
Wouldn't mind seeing something done with what's in it, to be honest.. even if it's just a cleanup and a slight warm-over.
http://www.fordsix.com/
http://www.cliffordperformance.com/
You got that right... especially a wimpy 200...
opps.. your right
I honestly overlooked that especially the dash part. I use to have a lot of details like the in memory but since lost it all to the cougar.
we wont do the purchase just yet, we're playing it safe till payroll kicks in. Its up the the wife at this point but she's tossing out pretty interesting thoughts like,,"wonder if an engine like my bronco would fit in there" :D i like the way she thinks!! :bowdown:
A 200 can be swapped out for a 250 I6, which has the Windsor bellhousing bolt pattern. Also, a head can be imported from Australia to give EFI to any of these small I6s with a little bit of modification. (tweaking to the bolt holes, I think is the main thing) Hell.. a crossflow-EFI 250 I6 would be my next option for the big swap if the 300 I6 wasn't around and a possibility to go into the '86.
Don't get me wrong.. there's nothing wrong with a 289.. it's just that I'd like to see a few more cases of people doing more with I6s they have than just automatically yanking 'em for a V8 swap. That is the reason I don't watch that Overhaulin' show, because they just automatically yanked the I6 from an old 60s Rustang and put in a small block on the episode I watched. Personally, if my woman convinced them to work on my '86 T-bird (hypothetically speaking, anyway.. it would never happen) and swapped out the V6 for a 5.0, I wouldn't want the car how it ended up. I have three 5.0s sitting here already.. two of them HOs.
but, imagine the mods to the 289 so its running fuel injection and an eec ect ect.
Might as well just put a 5.0 in it that way. Or, like she said, a 5.8.. :evilgrin:
I don't know.. I tend to think 289s belong in things that got the K-code 289s. Don't even know why. Maybe it's because I elevate the 289 to some special prestige level it may not even fully deserve. We all have our own versions of the rose-colored glasses we look at the older stuff with. Like for example, I love the 390 from the early 60s.. while Tom thinks it's a complete dog.
A 351 will fit but it's rather tight, I'm thinkin' its a perfect for a 289/302 streched to a 347... Jegs has the ballanced stroker assembly for $1103, shipped to your door(I'm ordering one soon).
You're ahead of me.... I only have two(I do have three turbo 2.3s though).
They were not all dogs... The solid lifter triple carb and police interceptor versions were fairly healthy.. The Z code hydraulic cam 390s were peppy with a 3 or 4 speed, but with the weight of the big Galaxies the automatics just plain sucked(IMHO, yea I owned both).
Scott IF you want that Stang, better grab it fast... Thats a very good deal....
The one thing I'd check though is the cowl area... Thay are very pr0ne to rust out, dumping water into the floors. You said the floor was rusted out, that moisture came from somewhere....
Yeah, that cowl area is a real monster. It could be be Rust City in there. Tell her to get that car. No computer to mess with, no complex wiring, emissions, or other BS to get in the way of a good time project.
There is a great magazine named "Auto Restorer" that just did a really great series of articles on I6 engines and what can be done to them instead of junking them for the large motors and keeping it true to the build sheets more or less. If you'd like I can photocopy the articles and mail them to you guys.
And yeah, tell her to sign up and we'll help her with whatever car troubles she might have.
Chris
Hey Scott ,
I've got a really nice motor for that. Buy it quick I've got my eye on it.
Sheldon
chris,, thanks,,
id like to see that stuff if you get a chance to mail it.
sheldon,,
Im not real sure what you mean,, could it be that your interested in the same car as brit>?
As for the motor, that one in the pic you have seems real familiar :D Them there wouldnt happen to be ported and upgraded 289 heads would they? :flip:
Brit says if she gets to it before you, she would be willing to work out a custody agreement for the engine :giggle:
keep with the I6 like bird351 said, there is alot of potential in them and they are very different and very very easy to work on. upgrade that carb to a holley 1926 and import a few parts from australia or argentina and your all good.
visit those sites mentioned too if you are really interested. specially http://www.fordsix.com lots and lots of great info there. used to have a capri with the newer version of that engine. they are about the toughest engines ever built.
and for that price if i had any money what so ever i would buy that right now.
i guess first off, id need to find out exactly what size I6 it is. Im ok with keeping the engine since it is orginal but,,,,,,but,,,,,,,, that motor blown306 offers happens to be a bored .040 over older 302 with ported, polished and milled 1966 289 heads with HUGE valves and roller rockers, high vol oil pump and fuel pump.
tempting to say the least.
so what displacement would that thing be thats in it now? im hearing 200,,300 ect.
there were some 250's around that age aswell.
200 or 250. Hopefully a 250, since it shares the same bellhousing bolt pattern as 289/302/351/etc.. (or so I've read from I6 owners) but I don't know which it's more likely to have.
some also had 170's
a few had 170's but i believe most had the 200's. you can look at the block casting and pull the number off of it and search fordsix.com they should have a list of casting numbers and displacements.
dollars to doughnuts though that it is a 200.
Only the '64 1/2s got the 170, it was dropped with the production of the true '65s in Aug '64.. Since this is a '66, it would have came with a 200.
The first 250 didn't see light of day till the '69 models...
The only reason it going for $2,500 is because it is a six, got to be a 200. Looks to be a good buy. The problem with the six is that they came with the light duty running gear and 4 lugs, so in order to convert it to V-8 you have to change everything. Therefore I would keep it as a six.
I just paid $1,800 for a 67 Mustang Coupe that came with a 200 six. But there's no motor or trans. The main reason I picked it up and paid so much is that it is rust free, very hard to find nowdays.
I have a 68 Cougar with a 302, disc brakes and every option that I'm going to use for a doner car for the Mustang. Cougars just don't have the value that Mustangs have.
TED
Well that ought to piss 'em off..(hope the Coug is a rust bucket).
The '68 7 litre(factory 427) GTE Cougar I had back in '78, is the ONE car that I'd really like to have back.
Me Too! I have never seen a 427 Cougar in reality and this would be the one Cougar that would outprice almost all Mustangs. A 427 was rare even in 78.
The 68 I have is not a rust bucket, only the floors but like I say there's no value in Cougars. I just sold a very nice 69 390 Cougar for $3,500 and it was not easy to sell. The same car in a Mustang would go for $15,000 plus.
Don't look at the prices on NADA for the classic Cougars, they are not realistic. Said the value of the 68 in poor condition to be $7,000, I paid $1,300 (last year) and they guy had it adveritsed in the Seattle paper for $1,500. I brought it after the ad ran out. I think they are the best buy in the classic market right now.
People go in the back building and they say "oh, you have a Mustang to restore!". They don't even see the Cougar.
TED
I don't know, personaly, I'd rather have the coug'. :D
Cougars go for tons of cash on eBay all the time.
If you like the Mustang better that's one thing. Restore it. But if you are restoring it only because it is worth more then something just ain't right about that. As the E-man has said before, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Mustang.
I would restore the Cougar regardless of market value.
thats why you restore the cougar......you'd be happier with a unique car then somthing that alot of people have.....like a mustang.... especially if that an eliminator ......dont see to many of them around here
as the others have said.... id rather have the cougar
i'd get a 200 efi and put that in the stang with an aod-e, if you aren't going to restore to factory spec, and keep the cougar, why pay all that money for one car when you can pay less and have 2. 'specially a slightly more rare cougar. just my opinion though.
edit: i am partial to the 200 i6 though.. i do like that engine.
Maybe a possible inspiration for ya?
Ran across this while following something else:
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I'd sell the Mustang to fund the restoration of the Cougar :D However, I guess it depends on your purpose behind it. If you're doing it for an investment...then yeah I guess the average schmo would rather have a Mustang since that's all they hear about and you'd get better money for it. To me, cars aren't an investment, but something I enjoy, so seeing as I could give a rat's ass what the next guy thinks, I'd build the Cougar, and sell the 'Stang :deal: