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Technical => Electrical Tech => Topic started by: jcassity on May 26, 2014, 07:57:03 PM

Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: jcassity on May 26, 2014, 07:57:03 PM
Its been said in the past that to remove the turn signal switch handle, you just grab it real good and give it a real hard quick tug and it comes out.

this may be true if you simply want to remove it but you do and will damage a part inside the mount.

I will get some time to post pics of this but essentially you will see a 1/4'' diameter pivot pin sticking out of the turn signal switch assembly.
you have to grab that with pliars and pull it out.
once you pull it out, there will be
1) spring
1) ball bearing bee bee thingy
next you can swing the whole arm around but it reveals two tiny parts that get lost if your not careful,... read on.....

as you remove the 1/4'' pin i mentioned above and small parts also mentioned, you will need to catch
1) plastic pin, side mounted 
1) tiny tyiny ass spring
--these two parts above are on the side of the holder which prevents the handle from feeling "wobbly" when mounted

as you continue to rotate the mount outward you will remove
1) 16awg in size pin that is about 3/8'' long
-- removal of this pin allows you to extract the handle.



esentially,,, remove the whole switch assembly from the car and bring it to a work bench with a white background cloth and be careful.
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: TOM Renzo on May 26, 2014, 08:19:38 PM
Been yanking them out since day one and that is fords advice on how to do it. Just saying!! GM is the same also. I have replaced hundreds in my career with absolutely no issues. Those switches burn up and when i slave them out i replace the switch and connector. I yank out the handle as advised by FORD.  The new switch does not come with a handle and all that you do is push the handle in the new switch. I personally have never broke a switch by yanking out a handle.  Have a great holiday guys.
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: Kafer79 on May 26, 2014, 11:29:55 PM
What year range does this apply (pulling out stalk with quick tug)?
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: Haystack on May 27, 2014, 01:22:11 AM
Almost every ford colum I've played with from about 1980-95ish was virtually identicle.
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: jcassity on May 28, 2014, 01:22:04 AM
when you pull out the replacement handle tom, does it pull out much easier...?
pics coming
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: sarjxxx on May 30, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
lol well I just had to replace my signal module a couple days ago and never having seen any information on what to do to get the handle into the new unit I guessed and just yanked it. It worked. I was out of patience lol.
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: thewestie on May 30, 2014, 07:59:09 PM
I didn't look into it. I tryed turning it. That's why I have a post trying to get another one.
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: TOM Renzo on May 30, 2014, 07:59:17 PM
Actually i never gave it a second  thought as i said Ford says yank it out. Chevy also . I know it has a detent arrangement and as far as i know yanking it out is the correct way to do it. Not sying i am correct just saying that is how i always did it. All Data says yank it out on Chevys and Fords also. Have a great weekend guys
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: jcassity on May 31, 2014, 02:14:55 PM
End result in my opinion only,
ford did not recieve correctly engineered handles.
The "Keeper pin" "should" move out of the way but can not due to the 90deg angle in the handle retainer groove itself.
see following illustratives and explainations.
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: jcassity on May 31, 2014, 02:18:13 PM
next three disassembly shots
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: jcassity on May 31, 2014, 02:20:11 PM
final shot with my mod and comments
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: TOM Renzo on June 01, 2014, 09:34:23 AM
Jay CHAIN SAW FILE. Dont tell me you play around with chain saws. SCARY THOUGHT. Just kidding. I see what you are talking about making an entrance angle for smooth removal and install. Not a bad idea i have to try that. Have a good Sunday JAY.
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: jcassity on June 01, 2014, 10:51:48 AM
yes i get along well with one and this...........................

http://s47.photobucket.com/user/jcassity_bucket/library/super%20split%20wood%20splitter


me splitting with the fastest wood splitter on the planet (sorta)
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: White85GS on June 01, 2014, 03:41:57 PM
Quote from: jcassity;434363
End result in my opinion only,
ford did not recieve correctly engineered handles.
The "Keeper pin" "should" move out of the way but can not due to the 90deg angle in the handle retainer groove itself.
see following illustratives and explainations.
So it is common for these to fail? The switch on my Ranger had 2 non functioning parts: 1, the turn signals wouldn't stay on in either position. And 2, the Hi/Low beam switch (the green piece) was all burnt up, so the headlights didn't work at all.
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: jcassity on June 01, 2014, 05:19:14 PM
failure rate unknown to me,
this one just failed due to the handle being broke,, that is very common.
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: White85GS on June 01, 2014, 06:44:16 PM
the handle for the tilt on my Cougar was broken off when I got it.
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: Haystack on June 01, 2014, 06:46:58 PM
Tilt lever unscrews. also has a flat spot so you can use a cresent wrench.
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: TOM Renzo on June 01, 2014, 07:28:14 PM
Jay that's crazy!!!!! Is that wood yours??? You must be a logger and heat with wood. man that is a lot of work even with a splitter!!! DAM!!! have a good night guys!
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: MechanicMatt on June 01, 2014, 09:34:45 PM
jay, arboristsite.com is another place Ive been known to roam.  Ill see if I can find a pic of my piped 3 cube Husqvarna.  Gotta mod anything with a motor, its a addiction.
Title: Solved *NO* you dont just yank real hard- Turn Signal Handle
Post by: jcassity on June 01, 2014, 10:17:55 PM
Quote from: TOM Renzo;434414
Jay that's crazy!!!!! Is that wood yours??? You must be a logger and heat with wood. man that is a lot of work even with a splitter!!! DAM!!! have a good night guys!


its a 2hp honda
1/2'' bell clutch driving 2) 120lb flywheels 18'' in diameter.
its a rack and pinion setup , no air, no hydraulics,, just simple centrifugal force.

old tech

What use to take me a month of afternoons to split by hand now takes just a weekend.

Loggers cut wood for a living and come back to the job sites later in the fall and cut up limbs and small wood.  They look at it as a waste to not use the whole tree, there is still money to be made from the rest of the tree.  They sell me a full size truck of wood stacked in the back tight for 40$ a load.

it makes them money, saves me time and yes i heat with wood..... nothing else.