Fox T-Bird/Cougar Forums

Technical => Misc Tech => Topic started by: 5.0willgo on June 26, 2005, 09:22:54 AM

Title: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: 5.0willgo on June 26, 2005, 09:22:54 AM
Me thinks my fuel pump is going. So here are the symptoms
1-Start car on first crank then dies. Turn the key on to run the pump a few times, car starts and stays running. I can hear the pump running and it even sounds different than it used to.
2-Hesitation, sputtering and backfiring under load. Coasting down hill, cruising on level ground, runs like a new car.
3-Faint whine coming from the tank once the car is running. Not really loud but it's there.

I'm looking at the BBK pumps but am unsure if I should go with the 155 or the 190. Any ideas?
For anyone who has installed one of these, are there any complications I should prepare for before I begin?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: Tbird232ci on June 26, 2005, 11:19:33 AM
sounds like my luck is rubbing off

make sure you get a pump with the install kit, comes with the sock, the oring, clamps, small hose, wiring pigtail, and then go over to advance, and get the fuel line retainer clips, like for the fuel filter, i do believe there are 2 different ones though for the fuel lines
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: jcassity on June 26, 2005, 11:32:11 AM
Pay attention to the ring that holds the pump on the tank.  Clean it off real good before you decide you "think" you know how it comes off.
The retainer ring on the tank needs to be rotated with a flat head or a punch so it lines up and lifts out.

the stock oring that seals your pump to the tank will need silicone that wont break down if gas makes contact with it.

You can buy a fuel pump for a Supercharged v6 cougar and come out cheaper.  they are about 95lph and will do fine.  total cost for my new pump was about 45bux.

empty your tank if you can using your old pump by grounding out the fuel pump wire up at the eec test hook up.
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: Tbird232ci on June 26, 2005, 04:20:25 PM
95lph is fine for a very mild build, but it all depends on how far he wants to go with the car, a 190lph would do great, seeing as Tom has had one in his car for years
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: 5.0willgo on June 26, 2005, 04:39:13 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
sounds like my luck is rubbing off

If that isn't the truth. I started the car and heard that stupid whine and thought where did I hear that before? :rolleyes:

Thanks for the input guys.
I think I'm leaning towards the 190 pump. I don't know how far I will be taking this thing but it's nice to know that if I decide to go all out, I don't have to worry about changing the pump again.

My current setup isn't all that radical. I wouldn't have problems using the 190 pump would I?
Don't want to go from starving the thing of gas with the bad pump to shoving too much down it's throat with a pump that flows too well.
Let me know if there's anything else.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: slicksport88 on June 26, 2005, 04:48:56 PM
Quote from: 5.0willgo
My current setup isn't all that radical. I wouldn't have problems using the 190 pump would I?
Don't want to go from starving the thing of gas with the bad pump to shoving too much down it's throat with a pump that flows too well.

That's where your fuel pressure regulator comes into play. If you have an adjustable regulator you could fine tune your fuel pressure to best suit the engine.
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: Tbird232ci on June 26, 2005, 07:07:29 PM
im running a 255lph high pressure pump with a stock regulator, and havnt had any problems, and youre probably putting down more power than i am
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: 5.0willgo on June 26, 2005, 07:08:03 PM
Quote from: slicksport88
That's where your fuel pressure regulator comes into play. If you have an adjustable regulator you could fine tune your fuel pressure to best suit the engine.

Doh :brick:
Forgot about that for a second. Thanks.
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: 5.0willgo on June 26, 2005, 07:44:15 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
im running a 255lph high pressure pump with a stock regulator, and havnt had any problems, and youre probably putting down more power than i am

Ok, maybe I'll start with just swapping the pump first and see how that goes before I spend more money for and adjustable FPR.
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: bondocougar on June 27, 2005, 12:49:07 AM
Yeah, I met Tbird232ci and now I have to fix my fuel tank leak, coincidence or a curse?  :giggle:

I did the jcassity thing and used the pump to empty the tank.  Now I have a lot of gas for the lawn mower!  Even after the pump sucked dry, there still was a gallon or two in the tank when I dropped it. 


Heres a pic of the tank dropped.  My leak turned out to be the fuel gauge sensor (on left/drivers side) .. Man, look at how rusty the pump and sensor hangers became.  Couldn't leave it in that state.

(http://mysite.verizon.net/junkyardjoe/tank.jpg)

Here is a pic of the stock sensor and pump.  I'm still looking for the sensor.  :disappoin



(http://mysite.verizon.net/junkyardjoe/sensor.jpg)
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: jcassity on June 27, 2005, 09:58:54 AM
yeah,, see that float of yours?
my youngest son was deeply facinated with it. So curious he made out of the garage with it and up to his tree house.  I know he bent it cause when im on "E",,, im out of gas!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: 5.0willgo on June 27, 2005, 03:57:26 PM
Quote from: bondocougar
Yeah, I met Tbird232ci and now I have to fix my fuel tank leak, coincidence or a curse?  :giggle:

That's right. We can blame all our fuel problems on Shawn :rollin:
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: Bane on July 06, 2005, 12:17:21 PM
what about nonfuel problems? :D
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on July 07, 2005, 03:18:00 AM
Quote from: Bane
what about nonfuel problems? :D

Shawn...
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: jcassity on July 07, 2005, 10:37:15 AM
Quote from: Bane
what about nonfuel problems? :D


interesting,humm
could it be that all the things i do wrong infact are shawns fault,,
could it be that shawn made me do it ;)

could it be that shawn is the very reason i cant cut my grass this am cause its raining,, certainly  :giggle:
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: Tbird232ci on July 07, 2005, 12:26:09 PM
i guess its also my fault that Banes primer is fading

most people blame things on me, so have at it
Title: Re: Fuel Pump. . .
Post by: cougrrr302 on August 01, 2005, 02:51:14 AM
I had my tank replace as with the internal pump. After a week the fuel gauge just dropped when i started it and doesnt work to this day. Is there a bad connection somewhere. I didnt do the work and it really sucks to worry about mileage.