Has anyone done a 460 swap and used the stock K member? If so how did it work out for you?
Might want to be a bit more specific about what year car, seeing as they weren't the same from 83-88.
1987 Cougar.
I sent these pics to Rick in a pm, but for future reference to those that search, I will offer my experience.
These are pics of solid mounts I made to fit the 460 in my 87 TC. n
One pic shows the upper half of the mounts on the 460 (on the cherry picker)
When I made them, I was using D5 exhaust manifolds.
In order to use my turbo headers, I had to use large nuts (as spacers) to raise the engine that amount, so that is what you see in the pics.
Putting the 460 in there is do-able with the 86-88 k-member, but you have to make your own mounts.
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I'm guessing the 460 won't fit under a stock hood with the spacers you added? I know you got it to fit before without the spacers but it was tight.
Actually, even with the motor mount spacers and a 1/2 inch phonelic carb spacer, the 14 x 3 Moroso drop base air cleaner barely cleared the duct-work for the hood vents.
Yes, I am using 1/2 inch k-frame spacers as well as offset rack bushings for the manual steering rack. That's good for 1/2 inch.
Here are some pics of the install completed:
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(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s3/83-88T-BirdGuy/TCenginesilver3jpg.jpg) (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/83-88T-BirdGuy/media/TCenginesilver3jpg.jpg.html)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s3/83-88T-BirdGuy/TCenginesilver4jpg.jpg) (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/83-88T-BirdGuy/media/TCenginesilver4jpg.jpg.html)
Ah so it did still fit. I'm guessing sans K-member spacers it wouldn't fit under the hood?
Correct, because the top of the spark plug wire boots on the dist. cap are now touching the plastic air scoop ductwork on the hood.
However, I have never took that scoop stuff off to see how much more clearance there is.
I left it on in case I get caught in the rain, then the water would just get the right side if the engine wet and not the distributor. (plus it looks better than without)
I wonder if a 460 would fit with a non Turbo Coupe hood and no K-member spacers?
I alwas thought this would look cool under the hood of a 4-eye Thunderbird
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I don't see any reason a 460 would not fit under a stock T-Bird hood. (without spacers)
My Gray 460 Bird does not have spacers and if I put the hood back down, I'm pretty sure the air cleaner will clear the hood.
Probably have to use a Moroso style drop down base air cleaner and a 14 x 3 filter.
Don't give me any ideas Lou :evilgrin:
I might just have to do that but maybe with a 5spd behind it.
Sorry OP, not trying to hi-jack your thread :bowdown:
Alan, what headers are those?
A company in southern California made those ( might still make them)
I believe they were called CPR.
Nice quality.
I think I kept their link on another computer.
Anyway, I bought them from a seller on fleabay years ago and had those mid-lengths jet hot coated after I modified them to fit the TC either way.
My plans at the time was to run twin turbos up front.
I cant see how a 460 would fit without the spacer I had to cut out the hood bracing so my holly air filter would fit on top of my 302 with a 1inch carb spacer but I'm going the next step and getting a hood scoop for my car Saturday at the swap meet
What intake is that
Allan,
I just happen to stumble across a link to this thread and i'm grateful i did. I've got an 88TC i purchased new but had issues with the auto tranny about 5 years ago and simply parked it in the yard after buying a new SUV. I've very interested in your 460 swap using the stock K member. I've read on several forums where they replaced the stock K member with one from a Mustang but this direct swap you've made is just the ticket i've been looking for. I do have a few questions concerning the solid mounts you fabricated. Do you have any drawings with dimensions you could share? If not, would you be willing to fabricate a pair for me at a cost of course?? I'm not a welder so buying the mounts already made would be the best bet for me. The car will only be used for local bracket racing with a mildly built 557 and an automatic, probably a C4 or a glide. Oh, forgot to ask what you did about the ride control suspension on the car???
Thanks in advance for your help. I was leaning towards buying a fox body Mustang coupe to build a dragcar when i remembered i had a fox body Bird just sitting around. Hopefully your advice will allow me to pursue doing something with the car.
Frank
Sorry for the late response Frank.
I need to get on here more often. lol
Unfortunately, I do not have any blueprints on the mounts.
Because I wanted my 460 to sit as low and as far to the rear as possible, it took a lot of time designing and trial fitting those solids.
Plus, I wanted to be able to slide the engine forward enough to get the bellhousing bolts off so I could pull the engine but leave the trans still in place.
A 460 is in the car right now so I cannot get you some dimensions on the mounts.
Hopefully, this year I will get the car out of storage and pull that 460 out. If I do, I will try to remember to get dimensions.
Alan
The intake on the black 460 is a '74 or '75 (stock) car intake I believe. (cast iron)