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Technical => Body/Appearance/Interior => Topic started by: 5lturbocoupe on May 22, 2013, 05:02:30 PM

Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: 5lturbocoupe on May 22, 2013, 05:02:30 PM
pictures
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: gumby on May 22, 2013, 05:59:49 PM
Nice install!

Great mod, I have been rockin one for about 4yrs now I guess.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c73/gmby23/87%20turbocoupe/70bd51ae.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/gmby23/media/87%20turbocoupe/70bd51ae.jpg.html)
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: vinnietbird on May 22, 2013, 06:03:51 PM
Mine has been on for about 3 1/2 years or so. Getting ready to install a new one after paint in July.

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc205/Vinnietbird/DSCF0374.jpg) (http://s216.photobucket.com/user/Vinnietbird/media/DSCF0374.jpg.html)
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: vinnietbird on May 22, 2013, 07:09:01 PM
HOLY  !!!!!! Vinnie's car is absolutely Awesome !!!!
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: 86T-bird on May 22, 2013, 07:24:46 PM
I'll be install installing one this weekend.  Haven't seen one on an 86 bumper cover...
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: gumby on May 22, 2013, 07:58:58 PM
Here is one on V8Demon's Cougar

(http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/23336271492.jpg?1248325010)
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: bodyman on May 22, 2013, 08:37:21 PM
Quote
vinnietbird
HOLY  !!!!!! Vinnie's car is absolutely Awesome !!!!


This may be true, but I sure wish Vinnie had a sense of humor. lol

The spoilers look good, can't wait to see one on a 4 eye.
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: Beau on May 22, 2013, 09:33:31 PM
Quote from: bodyman;415816
This may be true, but I sure wish Vinnie had a sense of humor. lol

The spoilers look good, can't wait to see one on a 4 eye.

Uptight ole so 'n so, ain't he?!
I'm going to be getting one in a few days, seems like a worthwhile thing, with no grille, and all.
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: FirstBird on May 22, 2013, 11:35:48 PM
This reminds me I need to pick up a turbocoupe bumper....or a turbocoupe.
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: Masejoer on May 23, 2013, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: FirstBird;415837
This reminds me I need to pick up a turbocoupe bumper...

Yeah, I like the bumper. The entire front end of TC's were great. I'm not liking much behind the first half of the quarter panels on these cars though. The rears of these cars are the most dated looking part of the vehicles.

I've been putting off getting one of these air dams/chin spoilers for years. I'm really curious how it changes any turbulence under the engine bay.

A random internet picture I have on here from too many years ago is attached. Something's just not right with the rear, especially the bumper. It looks like it has a saggy butt and needs to lose some weight to tighten back up.
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: FirstBird on May 23, 2013, 02:45:15 PM
Yeah the rear bumper and the 3 piece headlights are what really age these cars.
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: STANG8U on May 23, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
those look good i might need to pick me up one
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: Masejoer on May 24, 2013, 02:28:52 PM
Talking of these plastic parts, does anyone know what material our bumpers or this air dam are made out of?
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: bodyman on May 24, 2013, 03:53:20 PM
The covers on my 85 are PUR or polyurethane. They are a non-TPO plastic, yellow in color, and fairly easy to work with. Most plastic parts will have what material they are (such as PUR) molded into the backside of the part. Other non-tpo plastic covers include; RIM, TPU, PUR, PBT and PU.

TPO plastics are generally harder to get repair products to stick to them, they are greasier and usually require adhesion promoters. TPO plastics include; PP, PE, HPB, METTON, and TEO.
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: Masejoer on May 29, 2013, 02:31:10 AM
So these "chin spoilers" are bigger, right? Any idea if they do a decent job at being an air dam, or if this is further increasing the frontal area and possibly drag coefficient? While I think these things look good, I also buttstuffyze everything more than most people. No reason to add more drag to a vehicle if it can be helped. I'm really curious if a street car/tbird could be brought down to a cd of 0.30. It'd take some belly pans, a hood that resembles something more along the lines of the S-197, some more sealing around the front lights, and front windshield work at a minimum. Being able to not run the front license plate would also help greatly - the tip in the T-bird's nose is a design used on more recent vehicles to direct the air around the vehicle.

Some vortex generators would probably greatly help too, but they're pretty ugly.
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: vinnietbird on June 01, 2013, 06:33:51 PM
I'd think if we were THAT worried about drag, we'd get rid of our fog lights and smooth the front end up more. I am replacing mine due to beating the snot out of it. They seem to work great getting air up into the radiator area. They have more of a "scoop" to them.
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: STANG8U on June 01, 2013, 08:39:58 PM
i would love to do this but i already drag the stock one lol
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: Masejoer on June 03, 2013, 07:41:57 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;416422
I'd think if we were THAT worried about drag, we'd get rid of our fog lights and smooth the front end up more. I am replacing mine due to beating the snot out of it. They seem to work great getting air up into the radiator area. They have more of a "scoop" to them.

I'm not so sure of the impact on the drag coefficient versus frontal area with the fog lights. Sealing them up will help, but this mod might make the car a bit slower up top. It would also help if it is moving air away from the high turbulence around the oil pan. It is also possible that it could change the handling at speed for better or worse. I only bring this up as I've been putting off installing one of these for years but recently have gotten more curious about decreasing the vehicle's drag, especially as I move to make single piece headlights. The front bumper and header panel are shaped generally well for aerodynamics, ignoring the stair steps the air must take to get up over the roof, and the turbulent areas around all front lights, which greatly increases the amount of air that must be moved. This becomes a strong force to push against above 40mph, and it only gets worse with speed.

What is interesting is that even the "ribs" on the bottom of the bumper cover serve a very important purpose. Vehicles without this will more easily be pushed away from other vehicles on the highway, especially transport trucks. These front-back ribs help stabilize the air coming from the side of the vehicle, allowing us to continue with less impact than if we didn't have them. Add the air dam just to the rear of this and we get some very turbulent air - improving general stability but also not flowing through the radiator very efficiently and causing some aerodynamic losses at the same time. Vortex generators have been proven to help air around a vehicle - we'd have improved handling if the ribs under the car were more pr0nounced.
Title: Mach 1 chin spoiler pics
Post by: al green on June 10, 2013, 05:43:35 PM
Those are sweet.What year Mustang are the off of ? On  of the Mustangs they have a two pc. chin spoiler. Will they fit also ?