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Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: 83TB on April 01, 2013, 02:34:45 PM
I ran the id tag number on the transmission I just pulled from a 351W that was in a ford ranger.  Id number was 1352-246.  It said 94 5.0 v8 WC when I ran the tag.  My question is can I use it with my 302 from a 91 mustang?  Is there any problems about where the transmission mounts to cross member?  I know when i cut my hole in the floor board, I will have to have the hole about 1 inch back than normal.  I also have a drive shaft that will have to cut down also from a police crown vic.  Anything else? 

XX
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: Haystack on April 01, 2013, 08:17:14 PM
Get the cutch/pressureplate and throw out bearing ordered for a 94-95 mustang 5.0.

If your going from an aod, you need a flywheel, any 87-95 mustang should work. You will need a min-style starter, 91-93 mustang.

I re-used my stock aod crossmember, trans mount and driveshaft.

I used the 3.8 bell, which uses a 164 tooth fly wheel, opposed to the mustangs regular 157 tooth. This ment I had to run a 80's ford truck flywheel, clutch/pressure plate and 92 up 5.0 or 5.8 ford truck starter.
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: vinnietbird on April 01, 2013, 08:50:33 PM
I was told that tranny from an SN-95 will work if you also use the bell housing as well, and it'll set your shifter back just a wee bit.
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: Aerocoupe on April 04, 2013, 10:50:12 AM
+1 on what Vinnie said.

This is a good read on the history of the T-5 and a good site for parts:

http://www.moderndriveline.com/Technical_Bits/t5_history.htm

Another good read on the differences and swaps:

http://www.pro-forceperformance.com/t-5_interchange.htm

The thing that would probably give me heart burn is the location of the clutch fork on the 94-95 cars being at the 7-8 o'clock position rather than the 9 o'clock position of the 85-93 T-5's.  That would just be an exhaust issue more than anything but like anything else it can be worked around.

Darren
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: Haystack on April 04, 2013, 11:41:53 PM
My stock exhaust fit fine. I think shortoes would too. It only sticks out maybe one inch past the bellhousing.
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: Aerocoupe on April 05, 2013, 06:56:10 PM
One other thing to remember is that the 94-95 T-5's don't have the NSS on them like the earlier models.

Darren
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: Haystack on April 05, 2013, 10:33:58 PM
They use a oss on the 99-04s.

The 94-98 should be compatable with the stock t-5 or aod sensor. Might need to swap.the speedo.gear.
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: Haystack on April 05, 2013, 10:45:45 PM
http://www.accutach.com/Pages/VSSvsOSSSwaps.aspx

Some light reading on vss vs oss.

They say a vss is used on 94-98s.
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: 83TB on April 06, 2013, 08:52:05 AM
I had a vss from eariler model and local parts house said it was the same for the 94.  In the first picture you see a plug on the driver side with two pr0ngs on it.  I know if had the reverse lights hook to it, is that all that is?  Not a NSS too?  Will not having a NSS affect the A9P I am going to use?  Once I figure out what gear my friend put in the 9inch rear end I will get the right gear for speedo.
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: Aerocoupe on April 06, 2013, 10:50:27 AM
The NSS is the neutral safety switch and you can bypass the one on the tranny and on Fox car as it will still start and run just fine.  I know for a fact you can bypass the one on the tranny as mine is this way.  I have attached a pic of a Fox T-5 which has the NSS on the top plate.  The 94+ cars do not have this.

(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy142/dbrune_83/T-5PicShowingVSSNSSandRLSW_zps30d30bc2.jpg)

Darren
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: 83TB on April 06, 2013, 01:29:24 PM
Ok, thanks, I will probably be the only one driving it, so I hope I never start in gear.  Will the A9P have to see anything in order to crank?
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: turbotrav on April 07, 2013, 09:58:15 AM
Unless you have a 87-88TC...the non-hydrolic 86-93 mustang setup maybe a better idea....perhaps easier.

Travis
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: mcb82gt on May 01, 2013, 08:16:33 AM
Is the 94-95 mustang clutch action hydrolic or standard cable?
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: Aerocoupe on May 01, 2013, 08:58:03 AM
79-95 are cable style and use the same cable and quadrant, 96-04 are cable style and use the same cable, & 05+ are hydraulic.

Darren
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: 1BadBird on May 01, 2013, 10:23:18 AM
Quote from: Aerocoupe;414271
96+ are hydraulic.
Darren

Really?? The 98' Cobra T-45 I have is cable operated. I just bought a Clutch fork for it and it said from 96' up to 04'. 05' + were hydraulic.
Title: 94 t-5 work or not?
Post by: TOM Renzo on May 03, 2013, 06:49:01 AM
For some reason i think the upper switch also controls the CRUSE CONTROL. I had an issue some time back with an ECM smoking out from a guy that did a conversion. Cant remember what i did. Because the midnighter and my mustang will start in gear with the clutch depressed and the tranny in gear. Just a thought