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Technical => Drivetrain Tech => Topic started by: slowbird on January 26, 2013, 03:40:13 PM

Title: Mustang driveshadt?????
Post by: slowbird on January 26, 2013, 03:40:13 PM
same as the tbird? i would assume so just wanna make sure before i order. THANKS
Title: Mustang driveshadt?????
Post by: STANG8U on January 26, 2013, 04:06:04 PM
Idk the bird has a longer wheel base I think no ?

If so there are aftermarket spacer but none to thick

If they are the same you can go to the jy pull a aluminum off a exsploder Chang the yoke and call it a day
Title: Mustang driveshadt?????
Post by: FirstBird on January 26, 2013, 04:47:49 PM
I think for the 5.0's they are the same
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Post by: thunderjet302 on January 26, 2013, 06:22:01 PM
A Mustang shaft won't fit due to Thunderbirds/Cougars having a longer wheel base.
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Post by: STANG8U on January 26, 2013, 07:00:11 PM
That's what I was thinking
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Post by: QUICKSHIFT on January 26, 2013, 10:00:27 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;408081
A Mustang shaft won't fit due to Thunderbirds/Cougars having a longer wheel base.


....what he said.....I totally rebuilt a Stang shaft and discovered the ''short coming'' when I went to install it.....duh.  :punchballs:
Title: Mustang driveshadt?????
Post by: STANG8U on January 26, 2013, 10:14:28 PM
Do you have any local DS shops?

My buddy just had a custom aluminum one made for his 66 stang it was around $350 that's what one cost new from frpp
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Post by: Bob on January 26, 2013, 10:14:44 PM
Check out Denny's http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/index.html,  I don't know how much they are now but years ago I looked into driveshafts and spoke with these guys and it seemed like the way to go.  If you do get a quote on one let us know what they go for now..
Title: Mustang driveshadt?????
Post by: TOM Renzo on January 26, 2013, 11:23:12 PM
MUSTANG

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T BIRD

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Title: Mustang driveshadt?????
Post by: slowbird on January 26, 2013, 11:27:34 PM
Thanks guys. Guess I'll look into getting one made.
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Post by: slowbird on January 26, 2013, 11:30:02 PM
Think I should just get a stang one n have it extended? I can get a used one cheap... car is a V8 C4 trans wth a 8.8
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Post by: STANG8U on January 27, 2013, 12:00:08 AM
Not if its aluminum that's what my buddy tryed they can not do it

From what inland empire driveline said the ford one is  lol
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Post by: bigbada1 on January 27, 2013, 12:17:22 AM
Alot of us have the crown Vic police interceptor ds cut down for our cars
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Post by: slowbird on January 27, 2013, 12:19:11 AM
Quote from: bigbada1;408106
Alot of us have the crown Vic police interceptor ds cut down for our cars

Does it have to be the police interceptor?
Title: Mustang driveshadt?????
Post by: slowbird on January 27, 2013, 12:21:42 AM
My problem is I have tye stock one in the car, I drive the car to the track n wanna not have to worry. I plan on spraying the car hard out the hole so wanna no its not gonna break.
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Post by: slowbird on January 27, 2013, 12:22:50 AM
Also I have the typical mustang spacer would that help or still be to short?
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Post by: STANG8U on January 27, 2013, 12:31:08 AM
Looks like its a lot shorter
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Post by: Aerocoupe on January 27, 2013, 10:00:35 AM
Vinnie had one made from a Crown Vic aluminum unit.  Hang on and I will find the thread...and I found two.

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?31374-Aerostar-aluminum-drive-shaft/page2&highlight=aluminum+crown+vic

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?34196-Finding-An-Aluminum-Driveshaft&highlight=aluminum+crown+vic

Darren
Title: Mustang driveshadt?????
Post by: slowbird on January 27, 2013, 10:02:12 AM
Any one know of a car with a beefy D/S I can get from a junk yard? Besides crown vic. I got a price for $650 for custom n that's just not in the budget.
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Post by: slowbird on January 27, 2013, 10:17:33 AM
Quote from: Aerocoupe;408126
Vinnie had one made from a Crown Vic aluminum unit.  Hang on and I will find the thread...and I found two.

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?31374-Aerostar-aluminum-drive-shaft/page2&highlight=aluminum+crown+vic

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?34196-Finding-An-Aluminum-Driveshaft&highlight=aluminum+crown+vic

Darren
Thanks
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Post by: TurboCoupe50 on January 27, 2013, 10:31:39 AM
The '90s Aerostars used a alum D/S similar to the C/V...

I've sprayed mine with a 150Hp shot and it hung together, stock except for solid Lakewood U/V joints...
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Post by: TOM Renzo on January 27, 2013, 01:07:50 PM
Quote from: slowbird;408108
My problem is I have tye stock one in the car, I drive the car to the track n wanna not have to worry. I plan on spraying the car hard out the hole so wanna no its not gonna break.


Just for the record i have put hundreds of HP through a stock shaft with no issues at all. And yes i run aluminum shafts. But i have often asked myself WHY. Is it really worth the money and what for. A steel shafts works just fine set up correctly and balanced. Either way a custom shaft is in your future. They are relatively cheap all things considered. As far as i know a shaft can not be lengthened. Not successfully. just saying for what it would cost and the time involved it would not pay!!

BY the way Carbon shafts are the new THING!!!!

I know the shaft is lighter and easier to spin. I also know about the inertia losses of steel V Aluminum/Carbon. I ordered a Carbon shaft for the Midnighter. NOT CHEAP BY NO MEANS. But it is much better than Aluminum which i personally think they SUCK. Some are to thick!!!

Carbon shafts  are thinner to handle the same torque capacity as the aluminum .Carbon shafts have more clearance and requires less modification than aluminum. Aluminum shafts are normally thicker just saying. Then again my Anniversary Camaro came with an aluminum shaft right from the General Himself.
Title: Mustang driveshadt?????
Post by: slowbird on January 27, 2013, 01:17:04 PM
Quote from: TOM Renzo;408145
Just for the record i have put hundreds of HP through a stock shaft with no issues at all. And yes i run aluminum shafts. But i have often asked myself WHY. Is it really worth the money and what for. A steel shafts works just fine set up correctly and balanced. Either way a custom shaft is in your future. They are relatively cheap all things considered. As far as i know a shaft can not be lengthened. Not successfully. just saying for what it would cost and the time involved it would not pay!!

BY the way Carbon shafts are the new THING!!!!

ya i know Carbon shafts are the way to go friend has one in his Outlaw 10.5 car. i am not worried about weight so i dont really care if its aluminum or steel just dont wanna be stuck at the track or along side the road. Car is a "BUDGET BUILD" rather spend $$$ on better heads ,etc if i could in the near future.
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Post by: daminc on January 27, 2013, 02:58:58 PM
ford vans and trucks use aluminum shafts too...
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Post by: 50RACER on January 27, 2013, 07:02:18 PM
I bought 2 aluminum Crown Vic shafts from a local place that dismantles the police cars. Got them for $35 each. My local driveline shop will size them for $125. I haven't got around to getting it done yet. I'm going to put one in my TC driver and one in my 87 TC footbrake project with a 550 h.p. 358 windsor. I've talked to plenty of people about the durability. They can take some big h.p. numbers. Anytime you can reduce rotating weight, you are getting more power to the ground.
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Post by: slowbird on January 27, 2013, 08:31:54 PM
All the local yards around me don't have the police car crown vics. I am check for a ranger tomorrow
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Post by: Aerocoupe on January 27, 2013, 10:11:54 PM
Vinnie also said something about the crown vic taxi cars having them as well.

Darren
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Post by: vinnietbird on January 27, 2013, 11:07:17 PM
Yep. The taxis and cop cars were basically the same car as far as suspension and drivetrain. Many Taxis even had the Police pursuit badge on them.
Title: Mustang driveshadt?????
Post by: Beau on January 27, 2013, 11:48:56 PM
There is no spacer that will make a stang driveshaft fit a Tbird.
The Crown Vic PI shaft is a full 3" dia, the Aerostar is 2.5, but if you get one from an AWD Aero, it will be Mustang length.

Just go with a CVPI shaft, have it cut down, and use the Tbird yokes, or else you'll have to get the hybrid u joints.

I wouldn't pay over 200 bucks to have it done....and if a shop says it can't be done, I'd move on to someone who can. Because there are tons of Stangs with aluminum shafts, and we all know they didn't come that way factory lol.

OP, all your questions have been answered, just search a bit, and you'll find the info you seek.