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Title: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: tbirdera on June 15, 2005, 12:38:11 AM
Hey Im thinking of putting turbo in my 5.0 engine. Is it good to put turbo on my 5.0 engine?  I want to know If I put it if it will harm my engine.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: cougarman on June 15, 2005, 07:41:11 AM
http://www.turbomustangs.com  :D
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Tbird232ci on June 15, 2005, 10:00:28 AM
research before you even think about it
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: tbirdera on June 19, 2005, 02:35:46 PM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
research before you even think about it


I did research I wanted to get a second opnion if u got nuttin informative to say then shut it
 :evilgrin:
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Tbird232ci on June 19, 2005, 03:02:48 PM
get off my dick, you apparantly didnt research  because you came here asking a very uneducated question, showing that you did no research, because there is no knowledge in your question

there is no quick answer, there is no easy way, do your homework, just asking us stupid questions is wasting our time, and your time
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: slamedcat on June 19, 2005, 07:30:12 PM
Are you wanting one big turbo or two smaller turbos?

With two smaller one you could use the chrysler turbos on the factory headers.

You take the headers swap them side to side. Then flip them upside down. Now you have a good starteing points. The reason I say use the chrysler turbos is becasuse they have the same ball and socket that you headers have. Plus the boost comes on low and runs out at about 4500rpm and won't make alot of boost.

Now you need to find a way to cool the intake temp. You have two way to do this that I know of
1: intercooler
2: alcohol & water injection

Then you need to find a way to run the exhaust and intake to throught the engine bay.

Thats all I know.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Tbird232ci on June 19, 2005, 07:59:25 PM
actually, the chrysler turbos use their own s, and generally arnt the best choice, because you either have to source or make your own s, and they use their own swingvalves, they can be changed, but it still costs you money finding one for T3's
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: slamedcat on June 19, 2005, 08:06:48 PM
I ave been thinking about the swap for awile and this was the info that I had found so far. When I was looking in the garage I found a head intake and turbo from a Omni GLH sitting there and just eye balled it and it looked close. So I was going to see how much work was involve in it. Now the only problem for me is to actual get off my ass and try my ideas. I think there is someone out there that makes an exhaust log for the 5.0 to use a square  turbo not sure. I haven't looked at the link that cougarman posted yet.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Tbird232ci on June 19, 2005, 08:23:27 PM
turbomustangs.com is a forum for guys who build mostly V8 turbo stangs, some serious numbers out there

i actually have a bunch of parts from a turbo dodge, i dont have a turbo, but i have a manifold, and the  isnt quite square, the bolts dont make a perfect rectangle, they did it that way so you could only run specific turbos on the cars, for some odd reason

ive been looking into this for a few years now, the thing limiting me is money
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: V8Demon on June 20, 2005, 08:14:58 AM
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I did research I wanted to get a second opnion if u got nuttin informative to say then shut it


What's with all the hostility from the new people lately?
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Bird351 on June 20, 2005, 02:33:31 PM
Quote from: Paul Flockhart
What's with all the hostility from the new people lately?


Well if you'd shower more than once or twice a year.. :p
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: V8Demon on June 21, 2005, 08:04:25 AM
***Smells armpit***  I'm not due for a shower for another 2 months! :D
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: tbirdera on June 22, 2005, 01:39:17 AM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
get off my dick, you apparantly didnt research  because you came here asking a very uneducated question, showing that you did no research, because there is no knowledge in your question

there is no quick answer, there is no easy way, do your homework, just asking us stupid questions is wasting our time, and your time



Stfu u worthless shiznit u talk all this  like ur a professional , If im asking a simpel question just help me man its plain and simple , why do u gotta be such an asshole.  just a question on what I think I will be doing I aint looking for a fight u brat
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: V8Demon on June 22, 2005, 08:16:54 AM
Like I said hostility :disappoin

As far as whetether or not you will do damage, that depends on your setup and how much boost you are goona run.  There is no clear cut answer because there are many diiferent ways turbo the 5.0.  Single, twin, intercooled, non-intercooled......
The link listed below is a brief overview on turbocharging basics.  It's a good place too start.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Haystack on June 22, 2005, 08:29:09 AM
just go over to turbomustangs.com. There is all the info that you could ever want there. All that you have to do is look around. There are some people there makeing some crazy power. Honestly I think you should have to pass a compancy test so we get less of these. I normally dont care. but some of us need to calm down alittle.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Chuck W on June 22, 2005, 09:12:59 AM
Quote from: tbirdera
Stfu u worthless shiznit u talk all this  like ur a professional , If im asking a simpel question just help me man its plain and simple , why do u gotta be such an asshole.  just a question on what I think I will be doing I aint looking for a fight u brat


No, but apparently you want someone to spoon-feed you all the info.  Reread your first post and you tell us if it sounds like you even took 2 minutes to look into this. So who is the "worthless shiznit"?  the one who is too lazy to find out his own info on a subject that has abundant sources of info and wants someone to tell him the answers, or the one who called him out for being a lazy-ass?  Hrmmmm...tough question.  Maybe I should ask someone else so i don't have to think about it...
We will gladly help those who help themselves a bit first.  They gave you a place to start the research...now go...educate yourself, then ask questions once you have a better idea of what you're even talking about.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Bird351 on June 22, 2005, 10:53:29 AM
:locked: :locked: :locked:
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: EricCoolCats on June 22, 2005, 10:57:16 AM
Quote from: Bird351
:locked: :locked: :locked:


No way! This is much too entertaining.... :rollin:

Continue....
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Ifixyawata on June 22, 2005, 11:09:08 AM
1.)  Shawn is a big boah... just how I like 'em!  Don't use fightin' words on here, especially with him.
2.)  Shawn has done more reasearch on various things than I even care to think about.  Asking such a broad question, as others have stated, really shows that you haven't read.  If you have researched then tell us what you've learned, maybe?  It seems to me that any amount of reading would've told you that you can't just put one one" as you stated.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Tbird232ci on June 22, 2005, 11:11:05 AM
Quote from: tbirdera
Stfu u worthless shiznit u talk all this  like ur a professional , If im asking a simpel question just help me man its plain and simple , why do u gotta be such an asshole.  just a question on what I think I will be doing I aint looking for a fight u brat

you, my friend, are a waste of flesh

i gave you advice, i said research, you get an attitude with me? im sorry that im not going to just tell you how to build you car, you need to get off your lazy ass, and maybe read something sometime, if your attention span will allow you to that is, because it sure seems that by your spelling, grammar, and lack of punctuation that you are better off trying to figure out which hole the square block goes into rather than building a car

i know how i want to build a turbo 5.0, i know how i want to build my car, and i am 100% capable of doing so, so where does that put you on the "worthelss shiznit" spectrum? ive done probably 1.5-2 years of research, talking with people, and staring at pictures LEARNING, not being spoon fed like our less fortunate, primate friends here

if you want to insult me, you want to talk trash, and you want to make yourself feel like you have a big dick, by telling off a 20 year old who actually knows his shiznit, and probably has YEARS of experience on your ass, have at it, because youre doing nothing but making yourself look like an idiot, i have a name for myself on this board, ive met many people here, so all youre doing is digging yourself a hole

do some research, learn something, then come back and try again in a few years, and bring some punctuation with you
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Ifixyawata on June 22, 2005, 11:15:17 AM
And if you're asking how to do it because you wan't the sound... just get one of those things that sticks in the tailpipe and makes the whistling sound.  Why waste all our time if you just want to play turbo and pretend.  Whoooooosh!
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: EricCoolCats on June 22, 2005, 11:45:32 AM
Here you go Brian...this should help: Bubb Rubb (http://www.shelbygroup.com/media/wowo.wmv)

Woo WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Bird351 on June 22, 2005, 11:49:23 AM
That was brilliant. Showing themselves running a stop sign on camera.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: jasontbird on June 22, 2005, 01:18:33 PM
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research before you even think about it


There was really nothing wrong with this statement.


Quote
I did research I wanted to get a second opnion if u got nuttin informative to say then shut it


You then took this to a hostile level with the whole shut it thing.

I did enjoy eric's post with the whistler lers.  Too funny man.

http://www.ststurbo.com  This company is remotely placing the turbo in place where the ler would go.  I saw them install one like this on a camaro on TV.  I don't think they make one specifically for a mustang or t-bird but it might be worth looking into. If I was going to try a turbo I would look into this method a little bit to see if it's possible to adapt one of these systems to a t-bird.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Haystack on June 22, 2005, 02:12:31 PM
wow so they do it like all the trucks have been for years. Really inivative.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: slamedcat on June 22, 2005, 04:05:49 PM
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Here you go Brian...this should help: Bubb Rubb


I think he was looking for some thing like this. (http://www.sunamiturbo.com/)
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Bird351 on June 22, 2005, 04:54:29 PM
Quote from: slamedcat
I think he was looking for some thing like this. (http://www.sunamiturbo.com/)


That is so incredibly fruity, not even the chick pics can bring it back to heteroshaguality.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: joefriday on June 22, 2005, 05:58:05 PM
Quote from: jasontbird
www.ststurbo.com This company is remotely placing the turbo in place where the ler would go.


Holy .....talk about turbo lag... :giggle:
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: slamedcat on June 22, 2005, 06:03:20 PM
You could always think about this kinda setup
2800hp Quad turbo big block. (http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/0305em_turbo_bb/)
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Bob on June 22, 2005, 06:20:31 PM
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That is so incredibly fruity, not even the chick pics can bring it back to heteroshaguality.


hit refresh the pics change  :tg:
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Bird351 on June 22, 2005, 08:02:07 PM
Quote from: thunder306
hit refresh the pics change  :tg:


:tg: Oh, I did..  :tg:



Originally my message said something like "spread-eagle chick pic".. 'cause that's the one I got first, the blonde in front of the car.. then I went back to the site and saw that a different pic was there, so I edited that out.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: jasontbird on June 22, 2005, 09:55:46 PM
If they were naked I would have bought it.  lol
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: Tbird232ci on June 22, 2005, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: joefriday
Holy .....talk about turbo lag... :giggle:

actually, the turbo lag on those isnt very bad, because the turbos are built to the application

take a turbo coupe, move the stock turbo to the ler location, and youll get lag, but put a proper turbo back there, and you wont get much more than stock
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: kyle2ooo on June 23, 2005, 02:32:36 AM
Quote from: Tbird232ci
you, my friend, are a waste of flesh

 you need to get off your lazy ass, and maybe read something sometime, if your attention span will allow you to that is,

 

that reminds me of a joke:
how many A-D-D kids does it take to change a light bulb?

 how many?


you wanna go play baseball?
 :rollin:
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: V8Demon on June 23, 2005, 12:11:33 PM
If he does in fact have a short attention span he may have forgotten he even posted here :giggle:
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on June 23, 2005, 12:56:09 PM
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That is so incredibly fruity, not even the chick pics can bring it back to heteroshaguality.
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That is too funny and true i have run into these in toledo.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: slamedcat on July 07, 2005, 07:51:41 PM
Found some more info on turbos that are easy to use for a TT setup on 5.0's

This was on the internet.

This is a list of all turbos that can be used for a twin turbo setup.

BUICK GNX 87 3.8L GAR TB0348
BUICK Monte Carlo/Regal 78-83 3.8L carbed GAR TB0348
BUICK Riviera 80-85 3.8L GAR TB0308
BUICK Grand National/T-Type 86-87 3.8L (Intercooled) GAR TB0348 (TA48)
BUICK Trans Am 89 3.8L GAR TB0348 (water)
BUICK Century 78 3.8L GAR TB0301
BUICK Century 79 3.8L GAR TB0304
BUICK Century 80 3.8L GAR TB0308
GMC Syclone/Typhoon 4.3L Mitsu TDO6 17C/10cm2

CHRYSLER Conquest, Intercooled 87 2.6L MHI TD05
CHRYSLER Laser (Auto) 90-94 2.2L MHI TD04 13g
CHRYSLER Laser (Manual) 90-94 2.2L MHI TD05H 14b
CHRYSLER LeBaron 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
CHRYSLER LeBaron 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
CHRYSLER New Yorker 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
CHRYSLER New Yorker 84-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
CHRYSLER Town & Country 88 2.2L MHI TE04H
CHRYSLER Town & Country 84-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
CHRYSLER Charger/Shelby 87-90 2.2L GAR TB03 (water)
CHRYSLER Shelby CSX-Daytona/Baron GTC/Shadow ES 89-90 2.2L GAR TB03 VNT (variable nozzle)

DODGE 600 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE 600 85-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Aries 88 2.2L MHI TE04H
DODGE Caravan 89-90 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Conquest (Intercooled) 87 2.6L MHI TD05
DODGE Daytona 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Daytona Shelby 88 2.2L MHI TE04H
DODGE Daytona Shelby 84-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Lancer 89 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Lancer 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Lancer 85-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Omni 85-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Shadow 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Shadow 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
DODGE Shadow 87 2.2L GAR TB0335
DODGE Spirit 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H

EAGLE Talon (Manual) 90-94 2.0L MHI TD05H 14b
EAGLE Talon (Auto) 90-95 2.0L MHI TD04 13g
EAGLE Talon (Manual) 95-98 2.0L MHI T25 (45 trim)

FORD Mustang GT 85-86 2.3L GAR TB0344
FORD Mustang GT/T-bird 83-84 GAR (AiR) TB0344
FORD Probe GT 88-92 2.2L IHI RHB52W
FORD T-Bird 85-86 2.3L (auto) GAR (AiR) TB0344 (45 trim oil only)
FORD T-Bird 85-86 2.3L (Manual) GAR (AiR) TB03 60 trim (watercooled)
FORD T-Bird 87-88 (water) IHI RHB52
FORD Fiesta 90+ 1.6L GAR T2
FORD Escort 84-86 IHI RHB5

MAZDA 626, MX6 88-92 2.2L IHI RHB52W
MAZDA 323 GTX turbo 88-89 1.6L IHI RHB52W (water)

MERCEDES 300D, SDT, TD 78-84 3.0L GAR TA0301
MERCEDES 300SDL 78-83 3.0L GAR TA0301
MERCEDES 300SDL (Calif.) 86-87 3.0L GAR TB0359

MERCURY Capri 85-86 2.3L GAR TB0344
MERCURY Cougar 85-86 2.3L GAR TB0344
MERKUR XR4Ti 85-88 2.3L GAR TB0344

MITSUBISHI Eclipse (Auto) 90-94 2.2L MHI TD04 13g
MITSUBISHI Eclipse (Manual) 90-94 2.2L MHI TD05H 14b
MITSUBISHI Eclipse (Manual) 95-98 2.0L MHI T25 (45 trim)
MITSUBISHI Galant (Manual) 88-94 2.2L MHI TD05H
MITSUBISHI Starion (Intercooled) 85-87 2.6L MHI TD05

PLYMOUTH Acclaim 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
PLYMOUTH Caravelle 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
PLYMOUTH Caravelle 85-87 2.2L GAR TB0335
PLYMOUTH Conquest, Intercooled 85-89 2.6L MHI TD05
PLYMOUTH Laser (Auto) 89-94 2.0L MHI TD04
PLYMOUTH Laser (Manual) 89-94 2.0L MHI TD05H
PLYMOUTH Sundance 89-92 2.5L MHI TE04H
PLYMOUTH Sundance 88 2.5L MHI TE04H
PLYMOUTH Sundance 87 2.2L GAR TB0335
PLYMOUTH Voyager 89-90 2.5L MHI TE04H

PONTIAC Sunbird GT 88-90 2.0L GAR T2
PONTIAC Sunbird GT 84-86 1.8L GAR T2
PONTIAC Grand Prix 89-90 3.1L GAR T25 (water)

SAAB 9000 (16V Intercooled) 87-88 2.0L GAR TB0356
SAAB 900 (16V Intercooled) 87 2.0L GAR TB0339 (Oilcld)
SAAB 900 (16V Intercooled) 84-86 2.0L GAR TB0339 (Oilcld)
SAAB 9000 (16V Intercooled) 85-86 2.0L GAR TB0343
SAAB 900 (8V, APC) 82-84 2.0L GAR TB0321

VOLVO 200 82-84 2.3L GAR TB0313
VOLVO 740 89-93 2.3L MIT TD04H
VOLVO 740 87-89 2.3L MIT TD05
VOLVO 760 89-93 2.3L MIT TD04H
VOLVO 760 87-89 2.3L MIT TD05
VOLVO 780 85-87 2.3L GAR TB0363
VOLVO 780 90 2.3L MIT TD04H
VOLVO 780 87-89 2.3L MIT TD05
VOLVO 940 91-93 2.3L MIT TD04H
VOLVO 200 Watercooled Upgrade 82-84 2.3L GAR TB0368
VOLVO 740 (Oil Cooled) 83-85 2.3L GAR TB0326
VOLVO 740 (Watercooled) 85-87 2.3L GAR TB0363
VOLVO 760 (Oil Cooled) 83-86 2.3L GAR TB0326
VOLVO 760 (Watercooled) 85-87 2.3L GAR TB0363

VW Passat, 97+ (oil) 1.8L GAR GT15

GAR=Garrett=AiResearch, MHI=Mitsubishi Heavy industries, MIT=Mitsubishi


Note that most of them are for engines between 2 and 3 liters. These are the best size for a 5 liter because 2 of them would equal between 4 and 6 liters.

For questions about the Mistubishi turbos, Turbostangman will probably be able to answer them, because he has designed a kit with them and works with them in his business.

Most guys run Ford Knockoffs, notably the 69 trim models because they move more air in the upper RPMS, and don't run out of steam.
Title: Re: turbo on a 5.0???
Post by: 460 turbo truck on July 07, 2005, 11:20:47 PM
http://www.homemadeturbo.com      That's where i come from, a long line of home brewed turbo projects !! some guy did a TT 5.0 setup on there he did a whole write up on it,

says this thing is fast as all get out ... how fast get out is....i don't know.. but my buddy rode in this mustang, and he said it was fast...