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Title: Stock flat hood needed in NY.....
Post by: vinnietbird on August 19, 2012, 04:25:42 PM
In the Buffalo area, need a cheap, solid flat hood to get to Daminc's house. Let me know what you need for it.
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 19, 2012, 04:28:50 PM
It's been 3 minutes already, and nothing.
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Post by: 88turbo on August 19, 2012, 07:38:56 PM
I have a hood for an 83...
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Post by: daminc on August 19, 2012, 08:42:46 PM
would be better closer to Buffalo. it would save on double shipping
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Post by: 1BadBird on August 19, 2012, 09:38:28 PM
I have one. I was going to modify it but if you need it daminic, it's yours. Let me know.
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 20, 2012, 06:48:14 AM
Whatever Jerry says is good........well....it's good.
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Post by: daminc on August 20, 2012, 07:26:24 AM
Quote from: 1BadBird;396294
I have one. I was going to modify it but if you need it daminic, it's yours. Let me know.

might be a little to far to pick up...
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Post by: daminc on August 20, 2012, 07:39:26 AM
looking for something I can pick up for Vinnie's project.
Northern Ohio, Western PA, Southern NY, or around Syracuse (almost central-ish) NY would be the farthest I could go to get it to make it worth while.
If it's within 2-3 hrs of Buffalo, I can pick it up.... Any farther, then Vinnie needs to decide if he can have it shipped to me for a little..... well...... Upgrading so to speak. :D
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 20, 2012, 08:48:19 PM
Come on people.....SOMEBODY is close to Jerry !!!!!!!
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 20, 2012, 09:16:46 PM
If somebody can get a flat hood to Jerry (that's in nice shape), I'll send you a set of finned aluminum Cobra valve covers for an EFI SBF.
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Post by: Beau on August 20, 2012, 09:57:52 PM
I've got the stock one from my Sport, needs paint work, but for some umm..."upgrading" it'd do. Shipping and it's yours...although I have no idea what, where, or who to have give it a ride..
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 20, 2012, 10:16:40 PM
We're trying to avoid two shipping charges (to New York, then to Oklahoma).  I am hoping one will show up near Jerry soon.
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Post by: Beau on August 21, 2012, 07:14:57 AM
Gotcha. No worries :)
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Post by: jpc647 on August 21, 2012, 11:11:01 AM
Got one in Central Mass. :/
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Post by: daminc on August 21, 2012, 08:02:57 PM
Quote from: jpc647;396373
Got one in Central Mass. :/

that's about a 7 hr drive..
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 21, 2012, 09:06:16 PM
Got a PM of one not too far from Jerry for a hundred bucks at a salvage yard. That may be an option, but IF it's possible, I'd like to see if a member here has one to fess up first.
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Post by: cougar1car on August 21, 2012, 09:36:52 PM
I got one... It's attached to a cougar though... Also for sale!!
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 21, 2012, 10:01:50 PM
I'll take the hood....if you won't part the car, then find me a flat hood !!!
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Post by: daminc on August 21, 2012, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: cougar1car;396411
I got one... It's attached to a cougar though... Also for sale!!

is the hood rust free?
how much for the car?
Title: Stock flat hood needed in NY.....
Post by: Kitz Kat on August 22, 2012, 01:44:33 PM
Do you mean me?
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Post by: Dansbirds on August 22, 2012, 04:49:23 PM
Vinnie, just got back in town, pm replied to
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Post by: daminc on August 22, 2012, 05:53:05 PM
Quote from: Kitz Kat;396445
Do you mean me?

 
do you have a hood KItz?
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Post by: Kitz Kat on August 23, 2012, 03:02:05 AM
YEH, I talked to Vinnie about it.
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 23, 2012, 06:54:51 AM
We may have found one....Dansbirds may be the closest answer. waiting for a reply from him.
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Post by: Dansbirds on August 24, 2012, 09:55:26 AM
Vinnie, here is a quick pic of the hood. Its stored away in the back of my garage behind 3 cars so its not the best pic. Its silver in color if that matters. Is that what your after? This came off a car that used the prop rod to stay open not held open with springs at the hinges if that matters. I tried to pm you but it says you have exceed some space deal. Anyways its not in the way at all so if it works out its no big deal and we can coordinate with Jerry with what works for him to pick up.
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 24, 2012, 10:29:59 AM
Let's make a deal. Be gentle.
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Post by: daminc on August 24, 2012, 10:33:41 PM
nice hood
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 24, 2012, 10:39:51 PM
I believe the needed part to swap for the hood is in Jerry's possession at this moment.
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Post by: Kitz Kat on August 25, 2012, 04:50:59 AM
Looks like mine, better check and see if mines still there!
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Post by: daminc on August 25, 2012, 08:16:29 AM
Quote from: vinnietbird;396592
I believe the needed part to swap for the hood is in Jerry's possession at this moment.

I'll get a pic of it today
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Post by: Kitz Kat on August 25, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
Glad you got one, Now we need to know why!!!
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Post by: Beau on August 25, 2012, 11:56:50 AM
Quote from: Kitz Kat;396620
Glad you got one, Now we need to know why!!!

I can say this: after seeing Jerry's wizardry with other metal work, this hood ought to be a work of art as well lol
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Post by: daminc on August 25, 2012, 03:07:03 PM
Dan, is this what you seek?
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/IMG_1356.jpg)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/IMG_1355.jpg)
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Post by: cougar1car on August 25, 2012, 05:04:56 PM
Quote from: daminc;396418
is the hood rust free?
how much for the car?


It is rust free.. Looking for 800ish. Still a great car but can't do what I want with it.
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Post by: Dansbirds on August 25, 2012, 07:54:21 PM
Quote from: daminc;396631
Dan, is this what you seek?
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/IMG_1356.jpg)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/IMG_1355.jpg)

 Well yes and no, it appears the correct small size but appears to be missing what ever would attatch it to the wheel. I dont have anything at the moment so not sure what exactly it would look like, it might possibly have a spring in there also for the horn
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Post by: 88turbo on August 25, 2012, 08:15:50 PM
That looks to be just the outer cover.
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Post by: daminc on August 25, 2012, 09:02:36 PM
Quote from: Dansbirds;396639
Well yes and no, it appears the correct small size but appears to be missing what ever would attatch it to the wheel. I dont have anything at the moment so not sure what exactly it would look like, it might possibly have a spring in there also for the horn

let me look around... I do have the plastic part, but one tab is broken... I think I might have another one somewhere... let you know tomorrow
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Post by: cougarman on August 25, 2012, 09:07:40 PM
The plastic and spring should be the same as a TC.
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Post by: daminc on August 26, 2012, 07:21:42 AM
Dan, we found you a horn button with all the locking tabs..... I will have it in my hand for you in about 10 days.
Once I have it, we can set up a day to get together..
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Post by: Dansbirds on August 26, 2012, 07:59:18 AM
Jerry, you can get the hood whenever you need to. If you dont have the horn button then you can just drop it in the mail as I am in no rush for it
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Post by: Crazy88 on August 26, 2012, 08:16:06 AM
Speaking of the horn button, if someone has one that has all of the plastic tabs, I'd be happy to make a mold for replacements.
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Post by: Beau on August 26, 2012, 01:57:06 PM
Crazy88, if you're serious, I'll send you mine. One tab has been broken off, but I superglued it back on....
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Post by: daminc on August 26, 2012, 03:40:14 PM
if you can make those?.... what else could you replicate? what kind of plastic are we talkin about?

or is just the mold your making?
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Post by: Crazy88 on August 26, 2012, 05:01:14 PM
I can make all kinds of small parts like these. I don't have the equipment necessary for large injection molding runs, but small parts runs on smaller pieces like these are practical.  On parts like these, which will take some amount of stress and abuse, I would probably use an angel hair reinforced epoxy resin.  The most difficult part of course, is the mold making process.

I had also seriously considered stepping up with a one piece HID headlight for '87-88 Thunderbirds and Cougars, but in order to accomplish that size of a project, I would probably need the header panels, with at least the headlight buckets intact, from both a Thunderbird and a Cougar and of course some degree of confidence that such a product would find a welcome market.
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Post by: Kitz Kat on August 30, 2012, 02:25:00 PM
I could supply the cat front, How much demand is a big ??. Count me as 1. Big Question is whats going on with the hood,always a secret when vinnie is involved.lol
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Post by: daminc on August 30, 2012, 04:25:36 PM
lol... you know Vinnie.... always a secret

I also have an extra header panel with lights..

how about interior parts like the cups on the door handles?,.... maybe other interior panels? a gauge pod really made for our cars, or other custom mod parts
Title: Stock flat hood needed in NY.....
Post by: Crazy88 on August 31, 2012, 12:59:09 AM
Quote from: Kitz Kat;396987
How much demand is a big ??.

There are initial costs of making the short run molds, therefore being able to recover those costs is something of a concern. A small run of 10-20 would very likely cover those initial costs.
 
Quote from: daminc;396997
how about interior parts like the cups on the door handles?,.... maybe other interior panels? a gauge pod really made for our cars, or other custom mod parts

I can make molds for just about anything, but some things, such as items with textures, complicate the mold making process, especially with regard to short run molds.  short run Injection molds are typically made from aluminum and those would need to be outsourced, or the quality of the piece would suffer and as a result, the cost per unit would be higher.  Would you provide me a picture of the "cups" you're talking about? With regard to the gauge pod, are you referring to a pillar pod or something else entirely?  If a pillar pod, do all of our cars use the same pillar or is that something specific to generation, e.g. '87-88, etc.?

The clear facia of the one piece assemblies would be have to be outsourced to a local shop that has done similar work for me in the past.  Their charges are reasonable however and they typically charge me by the hour plus materials. I have watched with interest several others using home made vacuum formed lenses made of acrylic.  I believe the material they are using is much too thin for more than a one off piece and will very likely cloud and yellow in a very short time due to oxidation, UV and heat. I think I can make the "cup pieces" with 8 molds, four for each side.  What I mean by that is the outer marker and the headlamp would be a single mold, the inner marker would be a separate mold, since these are unique to each type of header panel, one for Cougars, one for base 'Birds and one for the TC.

I have a TC header, so I would need to locate a base 'Bird header panel in addition to both of your offers.

My apologies for hijacking the thread, perhaps I need to create a new thread for this topic, eh?
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Post by: daminc on August 31, 2012, 07:34:26 AM
I don't know if those pillars are all the same on all the cars up to 88.

I can get you a pic of the cups later today.. and maybe other things of interest
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 31, 2012, 08:41:02 PM
Crazy88, hijack all you want. I think Jerry and I have what we need worked out. Please, continue with the mold stuff. I am all good with that.
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Post by: Beau on August 31, 2012, 10:35:37 PM
Crazy88, a small and hard to find-in-good-shae item is the door handle cups for the NON TC style door panels....very hard to find unbroken. Plus they;re small so it souldn't cost a ton to make a mold....I'll take 6. Name your price..any color is fine by me..lol
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Post by: vinnietbird on September 01, 2012, 07:51:01 AM
I think I MAY have some more NOS door handle cups in the garage. $20.00 each.
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Post by: daminc on September 01, 2012, 08:12:43 AM
door handle cup.... 1st time it's ever seen air outside it's sealed Ford baggie...lol

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/IMG_1388.jpg)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/IMG_1387.jpg)
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Post by: cougar1car on September 01, 2012, 05:39:17 PM
Quote from: daminc;396418
is the hood rust free?
how much for the car?

 

You interested?
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Post by: Crazy88 on September 01, 2012, 08:22:02 PM
Ah, I see. Those wouldn't be difficult at all to make, though I need to make it clear that they would be made with reinforced epoxy resin.  I could probably replace the gelcoat with a color other than black, but matching interior colors without samples would be problematic. Do they need to be flexible at all or would solid be alright?  Where to they typically break?
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Post by: daminc on September 01, 2012, 08:41:01 PM
Quote from: cougar1car;397139
You interested?

we already found a hood.. so no need for the car... I would feel bad stripping it, and parting it anyway
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Post by: daminc on September 01, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
Quote from: Crazy88;397146
Ah, I see. Those wouldn't be difficult at all to make, though I need to make it clear that they would be made with reinforced epoxy resin.  I could probably replace the gelcoat with a color other than black, but matching interior colors without samples would be problematic. Do they need to be flexible at all or would solid be alright?  Where to they typically break?

they break along the thin section, and in the screw hole areas... the get very brittle over time.... if black is the cheapest option, they can be painted to match the interior colors... I've also seen 1 go for around $50 on ebay before
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Post by: jcassity on September 02, 2012, 10:45:48 AM
vinnie,
im sure you have a sketch or something as a heads up to share?
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Post by: Crazy88 on September 02, 2012, 11:13:05 AM
Quote from: daminc;397149
they break along the thin section, and in the screw hole areas... the get very brittle over time.... if black is the cheapest option, they can be painted to match the interior colors... I've also seen 1 go for around $50 on ebay before

Hmm, $50 each sounds pretty ridiculous to me.  Being textured, I would need a decent left and right piece to make the molds with.  They don't have to match (colorwise), but every unrepaired flaw in the "originals", will be present in the new parts.
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Post by: vinnietbird on September 02, 2012, 02:36:51 PM
Quote from: jcassity;397188
vinnie,
im sure you have a sketch or something as a heads up to share?

Of the hood? It's just a flat silver hood.
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Post by: daminc on September 02, 2012, 06:22:32 PM
Quote from: Crazy88;397192
Hmm, $50 each sounds pretty ridiculous to me.  Being textured, I would need a decent left and right piece to make the molds with.  They don't have to match (colorwise), but every unrepaired flaw in the "originals", will be present in the new parts.

I can send only one mint cup...it's yours as long as I get one back somewhere along the way.... I may also have the other on my 87. I can check
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Post by: daminc on September 02, 2012, 06:23:16 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;397209
Of the hood? It's just a flat silver hood.

maybe we can put some flames on it too
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Post by: vinnietbird on September 02, 2012, 09:30:26 PM
Quote from: daminc;397236
I can send only one mint cup...it's yours as long as I get one back somewhere along the way.... I may also have the other on my 87. I can check

 
Don't send anything Jerry. Wait a week. I may have a couple I can send. Keep your red ones stashed.


IF some new ones can be made, I want mine back and a free pair, or two free pairs of the new ones. If color is available, I'd say make them in gray. Easy to cover if necessary.
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Post by: vinnietbird on September 02, 2012, 09:30:48 PM
Quote from: daminc;397237
maybe we can put some flames on it too

Yes!!!............But no.
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Post by: daminc on September 02, 2012, 10:03:39 PM
what about real flames that shoot out a scoop?
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Post by: vinnietbird on September 03, 2012, 07:06:45 AM
...........only if it made a really loud screaming sound when the flames are being thrown.
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Post by: daminc on September 05, 2012, 09:04:44 AM
Quote from: Dansbirds;396639
Well yes and no, it appears the correct small size but appears to be missing what ever would attatch it to the wheel. I dont have anything at the moment so not sure what exactly it would look like, it might possibly have a spring in there also for the horn

 
I have what you seek, Dan
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/IMG_1400.jpg)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/IMG_1399.jpg)
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Post by: vinnietbird on September 05, 2012, 09:10:48 PM
WOO-HOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The parts trade circle of life. The scenic route version.
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Post by: Dansbirds on September 12, 2012, 04:58:52 PM
Do you guys still need this hood?
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Post by: daminc on September 12, 2012, 07:38:14 PM
Yes...... sorry, my wife just opened a wellness center last Saturday...got a bit busy with the grand opening ,and the aftermath.......
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Post by: 88turbo on September 12, 2012, 09:03:55 PM
Glad I could help.  Vinnie, Jerry, and Dan!
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Post by: vinnietbird on September 22, 2012, 09:21:53 AM
The hood has been retrieved !!!!!