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Technical => Engine Tech => Topic started by: 86cougar on August 07, 2012, 12:24:50 PM

Title: Computer
Post by: 86cougar on August 07, 2012, 12:24:50 PM
I was wondering if someone can tell me where my computer is located on my 1986 Cougar with a 302 engine? I bought a JET performance chip and I want to see if it does anything.
                                                            Thanks!
Title: Computer
Post by: 1BadBird on August 07, 2012, 01:02:48 PM
Behind the right side kick panel.
Title: Computer
Post by: Beau on August 07, 2012, 01:05:27 PM
Quote from: 86cougar;395500
I was wondering if someone can tell me where my computer is located on my 1986 Cougar with a 302 engine? I bought a JET performance chip and I want to see if it does anything.
                                                            Thanks!

Passenger side kick panel, behind the plastic.
And the chip won't do jack shiznit. Throw it in the trash, or get a refund.

Seriously.

It's the parts you can't see that will make the real power...HO cam, E7 or GT40 heads, bigger exhaust, injectors, etc etc...

Chips are really best for seriously modded engines that there are no factory tunes for...such as a blown and nitrous fed engine...even then, to get the most out of it, it needs tuned on a dyno by a trained technician.

Hope you didn't spend a lot for this chip...
Title: Computer
Post by: 86cougar on August 07, 2012, 01:54:45 PM
Problem is, I have to deal with emissions here. If I didn't, I'd just drop in another engine.
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Post by: Beau on August 07, 2012, 02:20:09 PM
Emissions or not, the chip is only going to affect your wallet.

As long as you have good cats, a properly functioning smog pump, and all the parts between it and the Thermactor and EGR are working, heads, and HO cam will get past emissions. After all, they were factory equipment on '87 up Stangs and Mark VII 5.0 cars....

Let me reiterate, the chip will not help you with emissions, power gain, freedom of speech, gun control, or penile enlargement. It WILL lighten your wallet though. If those chips did anything, we'd all have 'em in our sigs as a mod lol.
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on August 07, 2012, 02:54:45 PM
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...or penile enlargement.
shiznit, there goes my last ray of hope...
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Post by: Beau on August 07, 2012, 06:37:20 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;395513
shiznit, there goes my last ray of hope...

Yeh...you 'n me both..:eek:
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Post by: daminc on August 07, 2012, 08:12:41 PM
now I want some pringles.... thanks
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Post by: MY83T on August 08, 2012, 01:37:19 AM
did someone say ChiPs? 


(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg169/my70gt/chips.jpg)
Title: Computer
Post by: 86cougar on August 09, 2012, 10:17:03 AM
I could have bought cases of pringles for what I paid for the Jet chip. Oh well, as long as I have food in the fridge and a roof over my head......I'm good.  Thanks!
Title: Computer
Post by: Chrome on August 10, 2012, 06:59:47 AM
Quote from: MY83T;395537
did someone say ChiPs? 


(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg169/my70gt/chips.jpg)
Putting those in your car would not be a good modification either.
Title: Computer
Post by: 86cougar on August 10, 2012, 03:06:36 PM
Might be room in the trunk....
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Post by: turbotrav on August 11, 2012, 01:08:29 PM
Generally speaking old school chips like a Jet, just jack up the timing.  Which will require premium fuel, on a 155 HP 5.0  hmmm.  If u want more timing just up the base timing from 10 to 12-13.  It will do the same thing for free.

Good luck,

Travis
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Post by: 86cougar on August 11, 2012, 04:15:55 PM
So, if I advance the timing a little (I usually do) AND put my might Jet chip in.....who knows, I might get........ oh-oh, that's 155 hp new, my car is 26 years old. So, back to the equation.... about 120 hp, advance the timing and hook up the mighty Jet chip and...... Jeez, sure is a good thing I like my car. I better get back to work.  Thanks!
Title: Computer
Post by: turbotrav on August 11, 2012, 07:58:53 PM
In some cases a chip really can help a basically stock car.  With the basically smooth cam the Ford installed in our cars with the 5.0....its going to be rough to gets lots of power, chip aside.  That is why the HO swap is so popular!
Travis
Title: Computer
Post by: 86cougar on August 11, 2012, 09:05:26 PM
I get the feeling that emissions here in Arizona is almost as bad as California. Like I say, I need to take a day and go down there and talk to them. My engine is stock other than an MSD-6 box, MSD distributor, K&N filter, and a H/P ler. Not much to speak of. I've never even had time to check the compression on it, but as many miles as it has on it I'm not too optimistic.
Frank
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Post by: Crazy88 on August 11, 2012, 09:16:52 PM
If anything, the three mods you mentioned, leaving the ler aside, can only improve emissions performance.  The tighter tolerances of the MSD distributor, combined with the multi-spark of the MSD-6 can only cause more of the fuel to be burned, resulting in more efficiency as an air pump and thus,cleaner emissions.  Will such mods offset the sloppiness of a worn out engine, umm, NO.  Can it hurt...also a no.  What is stupid to me is that in some states replacing steel pulleys with aluminum or plumbing in an intercooler or using an open filament air cleaner can lead to failure of an emissions test visually, without even bothering to perform the tailpipe sniff test. I got my TC because it failed the sniff test in VA, but passed here in TN with flying colors after cleaning the TB, unclogging the EGR and replacing the PCV valve.  She passed well below the federally mandated minimums, let alone maximum and she now has over 250,000 miles on the clock.
Title: Computer
Post by: 86cougar on August 11, 2012, 09:57:14 PM
I didn't tell you that my EGR was clogged and so was the coolant lines to my EGR spacer. I tried finding new gaskets for the spacer and the dealership even told me that they are obsolete. So, I will have no choice but to hook up the lines and block them off. No loss.
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Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on August 11, 2012, 10:03:24 PM
Your dealer is wrong.  I just got through replacing mine during my engine swap a couple months ago. They're in the aftermarket, and they're fine.
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Post by: 86cougar on August 11, 2012, 11:06:15 PM
TheFoeYouKnow,
                        The only ones I found in the aftermarket would not fit my stock throttle body. The smallest aftermarket gasket that I could find was for a 65mm. I tried making up my own, but they would always saturate and send water into the upper intake manifold. So, that is why I have blocked the coolant lines. If you know where I can get the two EGR spacer gaskets, I would be grateful if you told me!  Thanks!
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Post by: TheFoeYouKnow on August 12, 2012, 01:46:33 AM
The ones I used initially were for 55mm and they didn't work for me solely because I have 65mm parts. They were Victor and the only one that seals coolant is between the spacer and the upper.  The victor gasket is identical to the oem, with reinforcements and  sealer coating.  The TB gasket only seals air, so it's ok that its only paper.  Check your surfaces before you replace the gasket again, make sure there's no damage.
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Post by: 86cougar on August 12, 2012, 11:07:30 AM
Surfaces look pretty good. Probably because the coolant lines have been plugged for some time. Thanks for the information. I will probably buy a couple, being I'm going to keep this car.