New issue came in yesterday and the letter of the month was from Ron DeWitt asking for a 83-88 TBird/Cougar vs. 89-97 TBird/Cougar Shootout, and MM&FF said send in the applications! This is open to ALL engines so any 83-88 TBird or Cougar can enter. I highly suggest anybody with a remotely fast (13sec or quicker) car to email the shootout editor at steve.baur@primedia.com !!! Eric, bring the vert anyway, it's a shoe-in for a feature.
Michael Pinto
http://www.aerobirdmotorsports.com
LMFAO!! As if you were reading my mind. Er, wait a minute...are you saying my car is slow? ;)
Where would the shootout be held, or is this TBD?
NJ. Englishtown I think. And Eric, your car isn't slow, I'm just saying that if nothing but 8 sec tube chassis ex-pro stock birds show up, you will still get in the magazine ;)
Maybe as a blur in the background! LOL! My car ain't the quickest but she shor am pretty. ;)
man, that would be sweet. I haven't picked up an MM&FF in a bit. Come one guys, show those stang guys what the birds can do!
edit: and yah, Eric better go, that droptop is just too nice NOT to make it in. :bowdown:
We will kick the MN12's asses! Right guys? :giggle:
James :D
Haha, yeah, I wish I got my cougar together. I never expected them to go for that shootout, so I haven't been working on it as much as I should. :(
Bought a huge Air compressor and paint gun this weekend so I can now sandblast the engine bay and paint it. There is still some time left, so you never know, I may get it done by then yet.
intrestion to say the least
Man, my car is almost respectable now - I'd like to do that if possible ... I wonder when it might happen?
i should get my brother to go he's got a 94 sc . and it's not far from us. is this a day the track is gonna be closed for this only or open to the public
They'll likely only take good looking(rust buckets, primer or peeling paint don't sell magazines), hard running cars.. If you can't run at least LOW 13s in 90* plus heat, there ain't much chance you'll get your car in the mag.
It will be a closed track, not open for the general public, and you'll have to keep your times secret till the mag hits the news stands. If you go blabbibg about how your or the others ran and they find out, the article will NEVER be published. To partite, you'll have to preregister and they will(maybe) send you a invite...
Man if some of you guys go you'd better take some serious heat with you. I'd say there are some pretty fast Supercoupes out there.
So does that mean that I could take my 86 & 89sc ? I don't know, thats a long ass way to drive not to mention what a tow bill would be if I broke something out there.
(Don't have a truck)
I'd love to see this happen. But I am a realist...even if we all followed what Tom said, I'd think chances would be slim that this article would ever see print. I also find it highly disturbing that this same magazine would devote several pages, several different times, to the "luxo-barge" shootouts with Crown Vics, Marauders and Town Cars, but has a bias against our cars--the slightly larger cousins of the "almighty" Mustang itself! Why? Because our cars are a little too normal...magazines want something so ridiculous that it's print-worthy. To say that MM&FF is seething with attitude would be a large understatement. If it ain't a Mustang (or totally off the wall), it ain't gonna happen with that mag. I dare say 5.0 Magazine, for all its belated reporting, is slightly better than MM&FF now.
*sigh* What I wouldn't give to have Super Ford magazine back. They ALWAYS gave props to us.
yeah. We might still have luck here though. We have alot of off the wall foxes here.
There you are wrong Eric, in the first MM&FF shootout they had an '87 Cougar and a turbo coupe and they loved them. This article will never happen because you guys will just sit back and say "It aint going to happen, so I wont apply." Well, if we all had that attitude towards this, and nobody applies, of course it wont happen, because there will be a lack of cars and general intrest. Do you think they would have printed my letter AND made it LOTM If they DIDN'T plan to do the shoot out?
Guess I will have to apologize to MM&FF for wasting there time with the Idea, as hardly anybody with nice cars, seems to be seriously intrested in this. I thought eric, will , ed and nick would at least jump at the chance, but guess I was wrong.
Blownbirds, send in your application at least.
Turbocoupe50, you are wrong as weel, (on the times to get in) The last shoot out they had there were cars running 14's-17's Hardly what youd consider fast. of course they will pick the fastest and nicest, or oddest combos out there for the article, but man, before whining and saying shiznit like it wont happen, have faith and apply first. No wonder nobody cares or knows about our cars. "We" are to affraid to step up to the plate when the oppertunity arrives.
Oh well, hopefully some readers of the mag out there know somebody with a fast Bird/coug and they at least step up to the challenge.
Now I know everyone in this thread is not going to flame 1 WLD BRD for his post. Yes its a little outgoing but I atleast see his point. There are alot of crazy cool and crazy fast cars owned by board members here. I mean c'mon they even throw pictures of old rangers and worn out lightnings in there drag race articles. I'm sure they would like to look at something other than the usual parts cars (to us atleast) they always feature.
And Eric whats so normal about a Cougar convertible with 13" brakes and sidepipes?
There are ten times more 4cyl mustangs then 5.0's
Hell I never said "DON'T REGISTER"(I'm considering it). But after the Turbo Coupe vs Super Coupe shootout they had last year, I'm not holding much faith that anything above 13.5 can make the cut. For those of you that don't know the details... MM&FF dropped all the TCs as only one could muster a mid 13, they only published the SC cars and times....
...which I knew about, and is exactly why I made my comments.
Listen, if even COOL CATS guy sees something wrong with the way MM&FF does things when it pertains to our cars, don't you think maybe he knows a little something about the situation? Give me a little more credit, please. Everything any magazine does has a slant. It's obvious their slant is toward anything with a running pony emblem. I recognize that--not necessarily agreeing with it--and commented accordingly. Sorry if I call 'em as I see 'em.
I also never said, "DON'T REGISTER", did I? I think it's great if you want to do it. In fact, if you've got a fast Cat or 'Bird, go for it. I'll back you up, sponsor you, whatever. Just don't expect to see a white ragtop running down that track (see reasons below).
That, I can't say. They may be just testing the waters. Whether they're serious or not, only they know. I think it's great that you got press for both yourself and for our cars. Hopefully it will work out for everyone. But as you can see, everyone has a different angle on this situation, be it for better or worse. Again, I'm a realist and don't place much faith in them. I want to be wrong.
Nothing is 'normal' about the car at all. What MM&FF wants, though, is straight line speed. That's all they care about, not a show car in the background. My car is not built for the track, nor will it ever be. Besides, it's one of the slowest cars on this board. All it's good for is show. There have been Mustangs featured in MM&FF's articles that are some of the worst "show" cars I've seen in a long time. Yet they get printed. Why? There's a pony emblem on it. I could probably work on my car every day for the next 20 years and not get a second look from that magazine. Whatever, I'm not out seeking glory and I'm not out to kiss anyone's ass. If they want my car in their rag, they'll contact me. I'm not going to seek them out. Far as I'm concerned, my trophy is in my garage. I have to prove absolutely nothing to anyone. While it would be nice to get some recognition every now and then (aside from my two brief moments of glory from Ask Bernie/Yo Ken), I'm not making it my life's goal or anything. Me running down the track and clicking off that whopping high-14 second time isn't going to blaze trails for our cars, now is it? I'd much rather let others with faster cars speak for our kind.
Excuse me, but I believe my car is slower, thank you very much. :D
How do I get an app? (probably was already stated but wasn't paying attention)
It would be cool to go back there to race and meet some of you guys.
Thats a long drive for you blownbird :crazy: , imagine driving from the west coast all the way to NJ and they say nevermind... :giggle:
Hey has anyone contacted mm&ff? I'm wondering if anyone has gotten a response. I'm going to give it a shot since I'm not too far from there.. I would expect to see Nate also..
I was on of the TC's that was dropped in the TC vs. SC shootout. I ran a 13.28 and only 2 SC's beat me but I was still dropped because all the other TC's ran in the 16's becasue of the heat(110+ track temp).
Like turbocoupe50 mentioned. This is a hush hush thing. No cameras or video cameras allowed. More SC's showed up than were invited and they almost called the event before it started. They will monitor the boards and look for info leaks from the shootout. It will be during a weekday on a closed track. For those worried about racing and then not having the article happen. They pay to rent the whole track. Unless the cars are dog ass slow they will not drop the article unless we make it happen.
I sent in my entry. I hope to be selected.
WLDBRD is 100% correct. Basically TBirs/Cougars are just longer versions of Mustangs so I say you guys should go for it. I would bring mine but it still has the V6 in it. Is this only for TC's? Or is it for any 84-88 TBird/Cougar? I hope so cause most TC's are not that fast compared to SC's but a respectable for what they have for the weight the have to push.
James
Oh yeah does anyone know when this will happen? If it is a couple of months from now then maybe I will have the bird with the V8 in it. I am about 3 hours away from E-Town so I wll try to make it.
James
This is for all the 83-88 t-birds.
There are only a couple TC's that run in the 12's because most people building fast 2.3 turbos don't bother with a TC and just put the engine in a POS stang.
Not as fast as some of the SC's but a hell of a lot cheaper to mod.
Basically you send in your entry and they will contact you about being selected. They then will notify you about 2 weeks prior to the event as to when it will be held.
We don't even know if yet.
Steve Baur
Associate Editor
Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords
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> From: Chris1987LX
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:44 AM
> To: steve.baur@primedia.com
> Subject: Tbird shootout
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> When and where will this event happen?
Maybe I'm wrong, but all I hear you guys talking about are TCs and SCs. If I read right, this is open to all motors, so there will be quite a competition not just from the SCs, but from the 5.0 and 4.6L V8's of the day. I'm not a big fan of the mag, and I'm just a noob when it comes to these cars, but if this actually happens and gets published I will be buying the issue for sure. I wish you all good luck, as I don't even own a 'bird or cat. Not yet anyway.