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Technical => Suspension/Steering => Topic started by: 67jones71 on June 21, 2012, 03:16:17 AM

Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: 67jones71 on June 21, 2012, 03:16:17 AM
The place is called alston race cars, here is the link.

https://www.secureway1.com/alston/index.php
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: Beau on June 21, 2012, 04:47:53 AM
i didnt see anything about tbird stuff there...
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Post by: Dan B. on June 21, 2012, 06:08:28 AM
If you guys are looking for full length SFC's, I can fab them up.  It takes 10' of 1"x2"x.120" wall tube ($30-35), couple hours of cutting and welding to close up the ends along with side tabs if you want to bolt them on.  Using 5' per side will run you from the rear LCA boxes up to the front almost where the frame rails curve up.  Could do them for like $85 per pair plus shipping.
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Post by: Chuck W on June 21, 2012, 08:53:37 AM
Quote from: Dan B.;392949
If you guys are looking for full length SFC's, I can fab them up.  It takes 10' of 1"x2"x.120" wall tube ($30-35), couple hours of cutting and welding to close up the ends along with side tabs if you want to bolt them on.  Using 5' per side will run you from the rear LCA boxes up to the front almost where the frame rails curve up.  Could do them for like $85 per pair plus shipping.

If you close up the ends like this  (front)  \=======\ (back) instead of (front) \=======/ (back), you can get a couple more inches of welding onto the rear subframe.  Unlike on a Mustang, the rear frame rail dips down behind the torque box.
Not sure how you're doing them, but that's how I did them when I made them (and when we were doing them at KB).

Adding a crossbar under the seat supports really helps things out too.
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: Soul on June 21, 2012, 09:45:44 AM
Got any pics of a set you've made? I'm bout in the market from some (car is moving under own power again)
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Post by: 67jones71 on June 21, 2012, 10:38:55 AM
Go to the subframe connectors section and there should be a pull down option list under weld in and bolt in, in those you will find our cars.
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Post by: Dan B. on June 21, 2012, 05:40:21 PM
Quote from: Chuck W;392956
If you close up the ends like this  (front)  \=======\ (back) instead of (front) \=======/ (back), you can get a couple more inches of welding onto the rear subframe.  Unlike on a Mustang, the rear frame rail dips down behind the torque box.
Not sure how you're doing them, but that's how I did them when I made them (and when we were doing them at KB).

Adding a crossbar under the seat supports really helps things out too.

That's how I did them.  I could add a crossbar with no problem.
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: Dan B. on June 21, 2012, 05:40:51 PM
Quote from: Soul;392960
Got any pics of a set you've made? I'm bout in the market from some (car is moving under own power again)

Don't mind the bubblegum welds at the attachment points...was teaching a friend to weld overhead.  I did all the welding and clean up on the ends of the tubes.

Rear

(http://photos.imageevent.com/17encore/danb/thunderbird/websize/SFC1.jpg)

(http://photos.imageevent.com/17encore/danb/thunderbird/websize/SFC4.jpg)

Front

(http://photos.imageevent.com/17encore/danb/thunderbird/websize/SFC2.jpg)

(http://photos.imageevent.com/17encore/danb/thunderbird/websize/SFC3.jpg)
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on June 21, 2012, 07:48:44 PM
When I installed the KB SFC's in my car I found it hard to weld onto the subframes because they're galvanized. You'll have to do some grinding to remove the magnesium to get a decent weld...
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Post by: Dan B. on June 21, 2012, 09:09:06 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;392981
You'll have to do some grinding to remove the magnesium to get a decent weld...

I did.  I'm going to go back and revisit Rick's welds and add in some side plates.
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: daminc on June 21, 2012, 10:39:40 PM
I put side plates on the rears of mine
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Post by: 67jones71 on June 21, 2012, 11:33:34 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;392946
i didnt see anything about tbird stuff there...

 
Did you find it?
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: Chuck W on June 22, 2012, 09:39:48 AM
Quote from: Dan B.;392972
Don't mind the bubblegum welds at the attachment points...was teaching a friend to weld overhead.  I did all the welding and clean up on the ends of the tubes.

Rear

(http://photos.imageevent.com/17encore/danb/thunderbird/websize/SFC1.jpg)

(http://photos.imageevent.com/17encore/danb/thunderbird/websize/SFC4.jpg)


 
This is what I was saying.  Flip that closure over the other way (put the flat portion on the bottom, not the top) , and you can extend the tube back onto the rear subframe.

Kind of a py pic, but... (And don't mind that I apparently forgot I had jacking rails on the car when I jacked it up :p)
(http://www.turbochuck.com/webimages/projects/83%20TBird/exhaust.JPG)
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: hypostang on June 22, 2012, 10:57:56 AM
I'm afraid I'm not seeing the difference clearly
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Post by: Chuck W on June 22, 2012, 11:00:48 AM
Quote from: hypostang;393023
I'm afraid I'm not seeing the difference clearly

Look at his first pic.  Flip that closure over, and you can extend the bar rearward onto the subframe another 2"
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: hypostang on June 22, 2012, 11:03:48 AM
Ok I get it now :)
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: 67jones71 on June 22, 2012, 02:20:13 PM
What do you guys think do you think i should try them?
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: 88 Blackbird 5.0 on July 16, 2012, 05:04:55 PM
I spoke to Mike Ruth at Alston's Racing Products today about their subframes.  He was a really nice guy.  I also asked him about the possibility of him making seat braces for our cars.  He said he'd be glad to make them for us if at least 6 guys wanted a set.  He says he's put his subframes on some nasty cars and they did a great job supposedly.  Their subframes cost $100 too, which is half of what Global's cost.

His shop is in Chicago.  Is anyone here in the Chicago area and interested in taking your car by his shop?  He said if anyone would be willing to do that, he said he'd make it worth your while.
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: 67jones71 on August 01, 2012, 12:55:53 AM
somebody should swing by there. There prices are more reasonable then globalwest.
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Post by: thunderjet302 on August 08, 2012, 09:55:19 PM
Quote from: 88 Blackbird 5.0;394437
I spoke to Mike Ruth at Alston's Racing Products today about their subframes.  He was a really nice guy.  I also asked him about the possibility of him making seat braces for our cars.  He said he'd be glad to make them for us if at least 6 guys wanted a set.  He says he's put his subframes on some nasty cars and they did a great job supposedly.  Their subframes cost $100 too, which is half of what Global's cost.

His shop is in Chicago.  Is anyone here in the Chicago area and interested in taking your car by his shop?  He said if anyone would be willing to do that, he said he'd make it worth your while.

I just found this thread. Alston is about an hour and ten minutes north of where I live. The problem is that I already have subframe connectors on my T-bird.
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: crapman64 on September 18, 2012, 11:37:57 PM
any luck with these subframe connectors? I need some for my bird! Its almost winter now so its going into storage. hopefully somebody will make them by spring time so I can throw them in while shes sitting during the winter.
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: Dan B. on September 19, 2012, 06:31:30 AM
I can still fab a set.
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: croga001 on September 19, 2012, 09:48:04 PM
I wanted subframe connectors and live close enough to chicago to tailer my car down.  Send me a message with his contact info and Ill try to give him a call.
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: crapman64 on September 20, 2012, 05:03:15 AM
sounds good. if those ones with seat braces dont come through ill have some fabed up by you dan b. Ill let you know! thanks guys
Title: Somebody else makes sub frame connectors for our cars!
Post by: 88 Blackbird 5.0 on September 22, 2012, 12:36:36 PM
Because of the trouble getting one of our cars to a fabricator, I decided to just make my own subframes and seat brackets.  Sorry man.  I didn't have any luck finding anyone to take their car to Alston.
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