Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 02, 2012, 08:39:08 PM
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 02, 2012, 08:39:08 PM
Hello all,
Was wondering if any members have tried the 01 Bullit springs on Fox Body Bird/Cougar..As it is said it works on our cars from Cool Cats main page..Has anyone tried them on..And if so..How was the drop?..I have a v-8 bird..Looking to get me the Mustang Bullit Spring/Shock combo...All suggestions and feedback much appreciated..
Was wondering if any members have tried the 01 Bullit springs on Fox Body Bird/Cougar..As it is said it works on our cars from Cool Cats main page..Has anyone tried them on..And if so..How was the drop?..I have a v-8 bird..Looking to get me the Mustang Bullit Spring/Shock combo...All suggestions and feedback much appreciated..
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Beau on June 02, 2012, 10:31:28 PM
Post by: Beau on June 02, 2012, 10:31:28 PM
one of the Admins here, ThunderChicken..he had either Bullitt or Mach 1 springs on his V8 Bird...
I've got '97 GT springs on mine, I've got about an inch or slightly more of drop. I've also got struts from an SN95 V8 car, as well. Rest of mods in my sig to draw an idea from.
I think it's the Mach springs that will drop down quite a bit, to the point of probably needing a bumpsteer kit and c/c plates...
I've got '97 GT springs on mine, I've got about an inch or slightly more of drop. I've also got struts from an SN95 V8 car, as well. Rest of mods in my sig to draw an idea from.
I think it's the Mach springs that will drop down quite a bit, to the point of probably needing a bumpsteer kit and c/c plates...
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 03, 2012, 01:24:58 AM
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 03, 2012, 01:24:58 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;391348
one of the Admins here, ThunderChicken..he had either Bullitt or Mach 1 springs on his V8 Bird...
I've got '97 GT springs on mine, I've got about an inch or slightly more of drop. I've also got struts from an SN95 V8 car, as well. Rest of mods in my sig to draw an idea from.
I think it's the Mach springs that will drop down quite a bit, to the point of probably needing a bumpsteer kit and c/c plates...
Thanx for the info buddy..So if you put 02 Gt springs on your car..Was it a direct fit? How did it drive after..Does that mean i can put H@R aftermarket springs made for a SN95 on my car..And also aftermarket Shocks/Sruts for SN95 on my Bird..Will it work as well..Sorry for all the questions..I originally came from the Rice world of performance cars..But never going back..Ford is my new love..And im not looking back...Thanx for help..
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Beau on June 03, 2012, 03:58:12 PM
Post by: Beau on June 03, 2012, 03:58:12 PM
You can use the struts from an SN95, but you'll have to use your stock Tbird strut mounts (SN95 stangs have 4 bolt mounts, Fox Birds have 3) and I'd recommend using same vehicle springs springs in conjunction. Figure your shock length accordingly for the rear, as Stang shocks are too short, unless the Bird will be lowered. ChuckW also sells shock adapters to enable using Mustang shocks...they raise the bottom mounting point somewhere around an inch or so, can't remember exactly how much. With my stock Sport rear springs in place, the Fox Stang shocks were still too short even with his brackets. Once I made the spring swap, things got better, but I may toss on some SN95 length shocks to test, as my car only dropped an inch or somewhere in that area.
Right now it's on jackstands, or I'd take a pic of the stance. I live in the country on some shiznitty gravel roads, so it's not so low as to dent the oil pan.
You could always cut your coils, but if you go this way, start off with small cuts until you get it where you like. If you ass it up, can't weld a piece back on, lol.
Right now it's on jackstands, or I'd take a pic of the stance. I live in the country on some shiznitty gravel roads, so it's not so low as to dent the oil pan.
You could always cut your coils, but if you go this way, start off with small cuts until you get it where you like. If you ass it up, can't weld a piece back on, lol.
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 04, 2012, 07:10:37 AM
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 04, 2012, 07:10:37 AM
lol...Thanx for info Budd..Looking forward to pics whenever you get the chance..
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: vinnietbird on June 04, 2012, 03:49:42 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 04, 2012, 03:49:42 PM
My springs came from a '99 Stang. About an inch or so drop, perfect, still have ground clearance for speed bumps and "real" driving, but low enough that the 4x4 look is gone.
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Aerocoupe on June 07, 2012, 10:01:22 AM
Post by: Aerocoupe on June 07, 2012, 10:01:22 AM
My '83 is dropped and pretty low so I ran into all kinds of strut/shock issues and here is what I found out:
1) The rear shocks on the Fox and SN95 Mustangs are identical in length. I am running the Koni DA's for a Fox Mustang with Griggs Coilovers and ChuckW's adapters. I had a conversation with Bruce Griggs about the rear shocks and he said he could order a Koni shock that was one inch longer but he strongly recommended that I used what they shipped as it was tuned to the car. That is when one of the guys here directed me to Chuck's page and I ordered a set of the rear adapters. I might add that the adapters worked like a champ, are high quality parts, and well worth the money.
2) The struts are a little different between the Fox and SN95 cars in that the SN95 units are about an inch longer. This can pose a problem for lowered cars as the SN95 units will bottom out. Typically the guys with the SN95 Mustangs will run the Fox struts if they lower their cars more than an inch or so. The 87-88 Birds use a strut that is pretty much identical in length to the SN95 Mustangs or at least that is what I have been able to gather from conversations here.
3) If you lower the car more than inch I would strongly suggest that you get some caster camber plates. Maximum Motorsports sells the ones specific to our cars.
Darren
1) The rear shocks on the Fox and SN95 Mustangs are identical in length. I am running the Koni DA's for a Fox Mustang with Griggs Coilovers and ChuckW's adapters. I had a conversation with Bruce Griggs about the rear shocks and he said he could order a Koni shock that was one inch longer but he strongly recommended that I used what they shipped as it was tuned to the car. That is when one of the guys here directed me to Chuck's page and I ordered a set of the rear adapters. I might add that the adapters worked like a champ, are high quality parts, and well worth the money.
2) The struts are a little different between the Fox and SN95 cars in that the SN95 units are about an inch longer. This can pose a problem for lowered cars as the SN95 units will bottom out. Typically the guys with the SN95 Mustangs will run the Fox struts if they lower their cars more than an inch or so. The 87-88 Birds use a strut that is pretty much identical in length to the SN95 Mustangs or at least that is what I have been able to gather from conversations here.
3) If you lower the car more than inch I would strongly suggest that you get some caster camber plates. Maximum Motorsports sells the ones specific to our cars.
Darren
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: beast50 on June 08, 2012, 03:16:56 AM
Post by: beast50 on June 08, 2012, 03:16:56 AM
Can a person use 99-04 gt front and rear springs and still use the 1988 xr-7 struts and shocks?
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Kitz Kat on June 08, 2012, 05:18:14 AM
Post by: Kitz Kat on June 08, 2012, 05:18:14 AM
I have mach 1's on the front, bullits on the rear, personally I think machs are a
bit to soft.The front dropped about an inch.You need adjustable rear arms to raise it,mine are almost maxed out to level the car.
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 08, 2012, 05:56:31 AM
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 08, 2012, 05:56:31 AM
Thanx for all the feedback fam...How do i get in contact with this ChuckW guy..Does he have a website..? or is he a forum member that makes parts?
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Dan B. on June 08, 2012, 06:39:26 AM
Post by: Dan B. on June 08, 2012, 06:39:26 AM
Send him a PM on this site...just do a search on his name and you will find him. Do something stupid and HE WILL FIND YOU!!!! ;)
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Thunder Chicken on June 08, 2012, 07:29:15 AM
Post by: Thunder Chicken on June 08, 2012, 07:29:15 AM
Here's my '88 Bird with Bullitt springs. As Kitz Cat said, you will need adjustable rear lower control arms, or the car will sit too low. Mine were adjusted to max height in this pic...
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: ramair351 on June 08, 2012, 04:57:38 PM
Post by: ramair351 on June 08, 2012, 04:57:38 PM
when you say you used mustang springs, like say a 1999 mustang.... are using stock springs to acheive a drop in a tbird? or are you using aftermarket mustang lowering springs?
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Beau on June 08, 2012, 06:31:25 PM
Post by: Beau on June 08, 2012, 06:31:25 PM
Usually the aftermarket Mustang lowering springs are too low, too rough, and really uncomfortable. And that's in a mustang, never mind a 'Bird. Yeah, stock springs are what most of use, I've got '97 GT springs in mine, a little drop, nothing to brag about, but it suits me. ThunderChicken had Bullitt springs on his, and you can see the drop in the pic. Keep in mind, with Bullitts, you'll need adjustable LCA's in the rear, and probably C/C plates for the front. Not sure on the drop that Mach 1 springs give. I'd also avoid Fox stang springs as they are too short, too soft, and will give a rough ride.
I think it was Dan B. that said he scored a set of '98 Cobra springs...I'd love to see a pic of the stance after those are put in....
I think it was Dan B. that said he scored a set of '98 Cobra springs...I'd love to see a pic of the stance after those are put in....
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: ramair351 on June 08, 2012, 10:29:47 PM
Post by: ramair351 on June 08, 2012, 10:29:47 PM
cool! i have a set of stock v6 1999 mustang springs, maybe i will use them.
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: vinnietbird on June 09, 2012, 09:09:37 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 09, 2012, 09:09:37 AM
The V-6 and V-8 car springs were the same.
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: vinnietbird on June 09, 2012, 10:11:05 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 09, 2012, 10:11:05 AM
Also remember, when you lower the front of your car, you really need to have an alignment done as well.
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 09, 2012, 06:03:13 PM
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 09, 2012, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: Kitz Kat;391829
I have mach 1's on the front, bullits on the rear, personally I think machs are a
Wow 0_0 that is one beatiful bird...Much props..However..can you rewrite what you were saying in comparing the springs..It is cut off on my screen..Thanx
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Beau on June 09, 2012, 06:19:23 PM
Post by: Beau on June 09, 2012, 06:19:23 PM
Quote from: INFAMOUSAPA;391894
Wow 0_0 that is one beatiful bird...Much props..However..can you rewrite what you were saying in comparing the springs..It is cut off on my screen..Thanx
Bird? Son, you need glasses!
As to what he said:
Quote from: Kitz Kat;391829
I have mach 1's on the front, bullits on the rear, personally I think machs are a bit to soft.The front dropped about an inch.You need adjustable rear arms to raise it,mine are almost maxed out to level the car.
Here's his car, just so we're clear on the differences lol
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Bob on June 09, 2012, 07:41:12 PM
Post by: Bob on June 09, 2012, 07:41:12 PM
I have them too, they have a tight 2 finger fit in the front and the rear I use CHE adjustables
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Kitz Kat on June 12, 2012, 06:53:37 AM
Post by: Kitz Kat on June 12, 2012, 06:53:37 AM
Quote from: INFAMOUSAPA;391894
Wow 0_0 that is one beatiful bird...Much props..However..can you rewrite what you were saying in comparing the springs..It is cut off on my screen..Thanx
It cut off on my other comp.but not on my wide screen?
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Chuck W on June 12, 2012, 08:58:40 AM
Post by: Chuck W on June 12, 2012, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: vinnietbird;391878
The V-6 and V-8 car springs were the same.
No, they're different.
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Chuck W on June 12, 2012, 06:17:30 PM
Post by: Chuck W on June 12, 2012, 06:17:30 PM
To clarify, the V6 front springs are a linear rate (395#) vs the progressive rate of the V8's, and can have a much lighter load rating.
The rears are also a linear rate of 190#, but the load ratings are fairly comparable to the V8's.
The rears are also a linear rate of 190#, but the load ratings are fairly comparable to the V8's.
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: vinnietbird on June 13, 2012, 10:31:21 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 13, 2012, 10:31:21 AM
My mistake, but, I will say this, the V-6 springs have been great on the Sport. Good ride, and handles well also.
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: cobrajoe on June 13, 2012, 10:47:07 AM
Post by: cobrajoe on June 13, 2012, 10:47:07 AM
Quote from: vinnietbird;392168
My mistake, but, I will say this, the V-6 springs have been great on the Sport. Good ride, and handles well also.
I'm curious: Did you need adjustable height rear control arms, or are you running the V6 springs at the installed height?
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: Chuck W on June 13, 2012, 11:28:07 AM
Post by: Chuck W on June 13, 2012, 11:28:07 AM
Quote from: vinnietbird;392168
My mistake, but, I will say this, the V-6 springs have been great on the Sport. Good ride, and handles well also.
I think the V6 springs would be a good match for our cars for someone looking for a "newer" replacement. The load ratings on the front of the V8 springs are kind of high vs what they were for the 83-88 TBird stuff.
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: vinnietbird on June 13, 2012, 11:52:28 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 13, 2012, 11:52:28 AM
I have CHE non-adjustable arms. The springs were simply removed and replaced.
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: cobrajoe on June 13, 2012, 02:36:48 PM
Post by: cobrajoe on June 13, 2012, 02:36:48 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;392179
I have CHE non-adjustable arms. The springs were simply removed and replaced.
I think that's the route I'll take, except without the CHE arms. For now...
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: vinnietbird on June 13, 2012, 04:30:13 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 13, 2012, 04:30:13 PM
Pics and updates will be required.
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 13, 2012, 06:16:44 PM
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 13, 2012, 06:16:44 PM
LOL..Cool got it..
Title: 2001 Mustang Bullitt????
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 13, 2012, 06:17:58 PM
Post by: INFAMOUSAPA on June 13, 2012, 06:17:58 PM
perfect..Thats what i was looking to see and hear...Thanx guy.