I wondered what a murdered out TC would look like? I searched Google for satin black Thunderbirds but didn't come up with much. If you have any photos of a Thunderbird that is satin black please share! :D
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Post by: Loaded87IROC on March 20, 2012, 01:54:51 PM
Jrad235 has a satin black Tbird and my Cougar is painted satin black with gloss black grille, headlight buckets, hood scoop inserts, and window trim. I am thinking about doing the snowflakes gloss black too but it looks good enough for now.
I actually used that same model spray gun at first to spray Rustoleum but I could not get the mixture right. Either the paint was running or it was spitting globs. It did have a nice spray pattern though and it would have worked fine if I wouldn't have been in a hurry.
That PlastiDip looks pretty nice though. I may have to try that if I decide to redo the paint on my car.
My car... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Loaded87IROC/008-6.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Loaded87IROC/014-3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Loaded87IROC/2012-02-01153515.jpg
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 20, 2012, 05:04:20 PM
Thanks for the pics. I use to paint for the local chevy dealer, so I am use to air guns, I have never tried to spray with an electric gun. I can imagine there would be a huge difference between an electric gun and an air gun.
Slightly less gloss than the pickup though. I think BMW's and Audi's look fantastic like this.
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 20, 2012, 06:44:39 PM
This car was actually sprayed with the PlastiDip, I personally think it looks pretty sweet! (http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee367/T-BirdX3/_wsb_574x428_USPmatteblack2.jpg)
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Post by: Shadow on March 20, 2012, 07:22:25 PM
plastidip? no.. but in a couple days, my car will be sprayed in rustoleum satin black/gloss black (mixing the 2 and shooting pneumatically ;) ).. i'll post pics.. mixing the gloss and satin will give a better look than just straight satin (in my opinion).. especially since the satin looses a little life after a month in the sun
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Post by: daminc on March 20, 2012, 07:28:44 PM
there is a huge diff in spray guns... the electric is like spraying something with a garden hose.... only really works well with a thicker paint
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Post by: dragon574444 on March 20, 2012, 08:50:05 PM
That's such a weird way to paint a car. I wonder how well it holds up to the elements.
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 20, 2012, 08:56:09 PM
They advertise it as being extremely durable.
I agree, it is an extremely weird way of painting a vehicle, the no prep time is very appealing!
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Post by: Romeo2k on March 20, 2012, 09:15:06 PM
Hrm... What if something snags the paint? do you have to peel it off the whole panel to fix it... heh.
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 20, 2012, 09:22:26 PM
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Hrm... What if something snags the paint? do you have to peel it off the whole panel to fix it... heh.
Compared to if you snag the paint on regular paint?
Scratch the PlastiDip you pull it off and respray.
Scratch paint you need to sand out scratch, feather edge scratch, prep area to be painted, paint and blend into original paint.
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Post by: Romeo2k on March 20, 2012, 09:30:49 PM
Interesting... Just seems to good to be true, lol.
Mines gonna likely be sporting black primer for awhile once I get around to body work.
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Post by: FirstBird on March 20, 2012, 09:35:44 PM
For $6 bucks Plastidip is good. I did all my emblems on my bird and going to try to do it on my turbines.
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Post by: bullitt4514 on March 21, 2012, 12:40:51 AM
I got 2 cans going to test on wing, and trunklid to see how it goes. Can't afford paint and prep supplies, so this might do for now. better then the color known as "peeling clearcoat" :D
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 21, 2012, 01:15:48 AM
Be sure to post up some pictures and let us know how it went!
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Post by: atroxr7 on March 21, 2012, 05:00:54 AM
I was just talking to a guy in my shop about this today. Every time I come up with a reason it would be inferior to paint, I can cast the thought aside as being due to "in the box" thinking. I bet its really easy to wash.
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Post by: Shadow on March 21, 2012, 06:46:00 AM
'it! it ran!' *let it dry, peal it off, respray* LMAO.. cheaters!
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Post by: ZondaC12 on March 21, 2012, 07:38:11 AM
For Pete's sake please oh please don't put Plasti-Dip on your car....of all of the ways to cheap out on vehicle modification and try to get something for nothing, this is the worst. It has a picture of a HAMMER being dipped in it on the bottle :rollin:
Save your pennies....PAINT your car, be happy. That stuff is gummy and has a texture to it. Sure it might look "murdered out" in a picture but if I saw what was clearly plasti-dip....on a CAR.....at a SHOW? I'd probably throw up in my mouth. And I'd wonder what other corners they cut in building the car...
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Post by: Shadow on March 21, 2012, 08:15:22 AM
LOL ^ think he's trying to talk you out of it hahahah
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on March 21, 2012, 08:55:29 AM
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For Pete's sake please oh please don't put Plasti-Dip on your car....of all of the ways to cheap out on vehicle modification and try to get something for nothing, this is the worst. It has a picture of a HAMMER being dipped in it on the bottle :rollin:
Save your pennies....PAINT your car, be happy. That stuff is gummy and has a texture to it. Sure it might look "murdered out" in a picture but if I saw what was clearly plasti-dip....on a CAR.....at a SHOW? I'd probably throw up in my mouth. And I'd wonder what other corners they cut in building the car...
I couldn't agree more.
Another thing that annoys me are rat rods...come on people have a little pride in your work. Paint the darn thing. Rust is not cool. lol!
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Post by: Shadow on March 21, 2012, 09:06:41 AM
if you paint a ratrod, it's no longer a ratrod! lol rust is 1 of the essentials of building a ratrod.. jerry started with a ratrod cougar :p LOL
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on March 21, 2012, 09:09:16 AM
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if you paint a ratrod, it's no longer a ratrod! lol rust is 1 of the essentials of building a ratrod.. jerry started with a ratrod cougar :p LOL
I've seen people that build a rod, sand it down to bare metal and then clear over it. I just don't get it...to me a killer paintjob is more impressive than rust.
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Post by: Soul on March 21, 2012, 09:17:28 AM
I bought some plasti dip about 6 months ago to try this and did a fendor on my truck just for giggles. It pretty much lays out flat by itself and is equivalent to coating something in silicone. It peels right off and leaves no residue. I cleaned my fender with a terry cloth rag and hot water. It was a bit of a pain to get off considering I didn't wash the fender or anything prior to spraying. I bought it with the intention of doing goofy designs on my ranger just to mess around.
Long and short, its cheap and doesn't hurt the paint underneath.
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Post by: Shadow on March 21, 2012, 09:30:54 AM
Quote from: 50tbrd88;384648
I've seen people that build a rod, sand it down to bare metal and then clear over it. I just don't get it...to me a killer paintjob is more impressive than rust.
a true rat rod has no paint.. that's why i laugh at the people who build an old coupe or sedan with a straight axle up front, paint it flat/satin black and call it a rat rod.. a TRUE rat rod is pieced together from numerous random cars, super low chop tops and road sign floor pans (floor pans optional LOL)
if you throw paint and shiny parts at it, it loses it's 'rat' appeal and becomes a resto rod.. which is built in the rat rod fashion, but not truely a rat rod because it is painted.. the term 'rat' comes from the sense that the car/truck is built in a 'ratty' fashion, basically meaning junky, old and decrepit
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on March 21, 2012, 11:55:00 AM
And think how much better that top one would look with paint on it.
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Post by: EricCoolCats on March 21, 2012, 12:04:46 PM
Seems like a whole lot of effort to circumvent putting real paint on something.
You ever talk to anyone with matte paint? Ask them what bird poo does to it. It's more maintenance than real paint, in the end.
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Post by: Shadow on March 21, 2012, 12:10:51 PM
Quote from: 50tbrd88;384669
And think how much better that top one would look with paint on it.
i like it that way.. i'm more into the real rat rods than the resto rods.. they don't need paint to be appealing lol
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Seems like a whole lot of effort to circumvent putting real paint on something.
You ever talk to anyone with matte paint? Ask them what bird poo does to it. It's more maintenance than real paint, in the end.
rustoleum leaves a nice, smooth surface.. birds can dump on it all day long and it'll wash right off.. i have experience with this.. the F150 i just painted became a target for a flock of birds the first time it rolled out of the shop >:[
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Post by: ZondaC12 on March 21, 2012, 01:15:51 PM
The one local board (full of stupid arrogant kids driving Hondas, Evos, STI's, Sauerkraut big 3 etc etc....) is the first place I saw it, they're all foaming at the mouth. I read the place from time to time for some good entertainment, but things like that ensure I'll never associate with any of them. If you want to murder everything out but be able to take it off...you're either indecisive or a massive tool that just wants to do that because that's popular now.
Just like vinyl wrap. Great idea for advertising and things like that. For your whole car's appearance? Yeah, what happens when you open the hood/doors/trunk? Yup, looks like a pile of half-assed backyard trash. And people are doing this to brand new middle of the road luxury/sport vehicles!!! (see above) Come on! Why don't I just go ahead and take a brand new Ferrari F12 and put IROC wheels on it? LOL
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 21, 2012, 01:32:01 PM
So have you ever seen/dealt with it in person? TBH I am not concerned with what is popular, if I was I surely wouldn't be playing with T-Birds. Believe it or not I actually like how the cars I have seen done with it looks (but so far I have only seen pictures). Door jams are door jams, whether it be PlastiDip or paint if you don't take the time to do a color change appropriately it will look out of place when the hood comes up or the doors are opened.
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Post by: Shadow on March 21, 2012, 01:56:56 PM
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Why don't I just go ahead and take a brand new Ferrari F12 and put IROC wheels on it? LOL
DO IT! hahahahahahah.. they make iroc replicas in 18's, so at least you can go up in size lmao
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Post by: atroxr7 on March 21, 2012, 03:26:51 PM
im surprised how prissy everyone is being about this. All the technicalities between rat rods and resto rods. They're cars, we modify them to our own preference for fun. I see no point in telling someone what they should or shouldnt do unless its a safety concern or a product that'll cause a massive headache down the road or flat out doesnt work... As for me, I kinda like the stuff, its not a big investment by any means and clearly if you prep it and apply it as advised you can pull it off. Ill admit right now I've spent way more that $150 trying mods that didnt work as I wanted at all and Im not butt hurt about it.
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on March 21, 2012, 04:10:24 PM
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im surprised how prissy everyone is being about this. All the technicalities between rat rods and resto rods. They're cars, we modify them to our own preference for fun. I see no point in telling someone what they should or shouldnt do unless its a safety concern or a product that'll cause a massive headache down the road or flat out doesnt work... As for me, I kinda like the stuff, its not a big investment by any means and clearly if you prep it and apply it as advised you can pull it off. Ill admit right now I've spent way more that $150 trying mods that didnt work as I wanted at all and Im not butt hurt about it.
I was just voicing my opinion...if you like rat rods more power to you!
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Post by: atroxr7 on March 21, 2012, 05:11:26 PM
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I was just voicing my opinion...if you like rat rods more power to you!
Im just trying to say that while classifying is to some extend necessary for communication. Sometimes creating an environment of that stunts creativity and innovation. I remember a time on TCCOA when everyone was insisting that a PI head and cam swap was the ONLY way to do it. And the honda guys had a stint where the ultimate engine was the type R (b18 is it?) but in the end it turns out that motor is now considered trash for many reasons. Hell im still convinced one day someone will figure how how to modify a ford 400 to be amazing... but thats a long shot.
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Post by: XR7-4.6 on March 21, 2012, 06:49:15 PM
Best use I've found for plastidip is restoring rubberized interior or exterior trim pieces.
I have never understood the attraction to the matte black look for a full exterior paint job. It looks as trashy on $200 beaters as it does on 100k Audis. It's just another fad, a particularly repulsive one at that(on the same level as underglow and fart cans) Anything that can change the entire look of a car for less than $100 generally makes the whole car look like it's worth less than $100.
And that whole "being creative and innovative" thing is bunk. It's lazyness. It's all been done before, it's all been tried, it's all been duplicated. Everyone painting their cars with plastidip isn't being original. They're all just copying some guy who at some point who was too cheap or had bad enough taste to paint their whole car with it. Now it's all the rage with those who shop autozone and hardware stores for their "custom" cars and even has tutorials on how to do it "right". Of course like all fads, everyone who has partited in it later sells their cars for s value because it looks like such utter or gets real paint for the same reason.
In the end the PI swap on TCCoA is still popular after all these years and probably whatever the hell the Honda guys use as well. Why? It works perfectly. It's not some flash in the pan fad created for attention but rather a way to actually improve the car without hacking it or making it dynamically worse to live with.
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Post by: Chrome on March 21, 2012, 08:24:06 PM
If you have really bad paint and can't afford to paint it, this may be an option to make a car look presentable. I am intrested in the clear version to use like a bra. It would protect the paint but allow you to still see it.
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 21, 2012, 08:56:32 PM
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im surprised how prissy everyone is being about this
Don't take it personal, people skills on forums is somewhat difficult and it is somewhat of a talent/skill that takes a little while to learn. :D
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I am interested in the clear version to use like a bra. It would protect the paint but allow you to still see it.
They offer a clear version. You can even contact them with your paint code and they will mix a batch for your color.
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If you have really bad paint and can't afford to paint it, this may be an option to make a car look presentable.
I have decent paint on both of our dd. I also have the income and talent to pay someone to paint my car or paint it myself (use to paint for a living at the local chevy/caddy dealer). But I personally get frustrated with how delicate glossy paint can be, especially black. I enjoy driving my TC everyday and want to keep it that way, but a fresh black paint job would make me very cautious! :beatyoass:
I actually like how the satin black luxury cars look, that is why I asked if anyone had seen any satin black TC's (and so far it seems the answer is no :() and am not the least concerned with what is "in" right now. lol :burnout:
Thanks for all of the input and if anyone has any pictures of a satin TC please share! :D
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Post by: EricCoolCats on March 21, 2012, 09:02:02 PM
LOL, sorry, I had to...
(http://www.nitrostreet.com/NoToRat.gif)
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 21, 2012, 09:05:26 PM
^LOL :D
I am still not sure how rat rods even got brought up!
Satin black is not black primer or rust! :D
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Post by: 1BadBird on March 21, 2012, 09:11:16 PM
I don't mind a Matte finish on a car if it's done with regular automotive paint. It's a beeooch to spot repair/refinish such finishes though, but in the end it's a personal choice. I too would like to see a fox bird/cougar done in a Matte or egg shell finish.
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Post by: daminc on March 21, 2012, 09:22:14 PM
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LOL, sorry, I had to...
(http://www.nitrostreet.com/NoToRat.gif)
well put, Eric
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Post by: FirstBird on March 21, 2012, 09:24:34 PM
(http://[URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/082610214100.jpg/][IMG]http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4708/082610214100.jpg)[/URL] Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)[/IMG] Taken with my phone about a year ago when I was considering to paint my car Matte/Satin Black, guy said it looked horrible and couldn't wait to get some real paint on it. Don't remember who this was though but i remember it was a thread.
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 21, 2012, 10:08:24 PM
Thanks for the pic! They seem to be few and far between..
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Post by: Chrome on March 21, 2012, 10:32:26 PM
T-BirdX3, sorry, I wasn't implying that you are broke or have py paint. I was just trying to put a positive spin on the use of PlastiDip. I feel it could have it's uses. As for a matte finish on a car, I'm not a big fan. That's just my opinion. I do understand glossy finishes highlight nicks, scratches and dents. I still prefer it. If I had a car that looked rough, I would consider PlastiDip. I am all for something cheap and easy, if I don't want to spend thousands on a paint job.
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Post by: Shadow on March 21, 2012, 11:39:00 PM
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Hell im still convinced one day someone will figure how how to modify a ford 400 to be amazing... but thats a long shot.
hey, back up off my favorite BBF :p lol
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 21, 2012, 11:40:06 PM
Chrome, No need to apologize, there was no offense taken! :D I greatly appreciate your input and opinions.
I was just trying to explain why I was looking for something other than your typical urethane or base/clear. :D
Shadow, lol you crack me up, :D I am not sure if I even want to know why the 400 is your favorite engine! The 429/460 is such a all around better option! :beatyoass:
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Post by: Chrome on March 21, 2012, 11:44:38 PM
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Chrome, No need to apologize, there was no offense taken! :D I greatly appreciate your input and opinions.
I was just trying to explain why I was looking for something other than your typical urethane or base/clear. :D
Shadow, lol you crack me up, :D I am not sure if I even want to know why the 400 is your favorite engine! The 429/460 is such a all around better option! :beatyoass:
I sure do miss enamel!
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Post by: Shadow on March 21, 2012, 11:48:30 PM
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I have never understood the attraction to the matte black look for a full exterior paint job. It looks as trashy on $200 beaters as it does on 100k Audis. It's just another fad, a particularly repulsive one at that(on the same level as underglow and fart cans) Anything that can change the entire look of a car for less than $100 generally makes the whole car look like it's worth less than $100.
HA.. you sound like a grumpy old fart who sprays kids with a hose from his porch.. i dislike your opinion, GREATLY.. while plastidip does seem to be stupid, i have to greatly disagree with you and your dislike for satin black.. satin black looks 100 times better than any shade of yellow, most shades of white and (obvious statement here) a million times better than doodoo brown.. i must admit, most people can't pull things together to make it look right.. and 'murdering it out' is lame in my opinion ( i hate window tint, but that's only scratching the surface)..
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Post by: Shadow on March 21, 2012, 11:58:34 PM
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Shadow, lol you crack me up, :D I am not sure if I even want to know why the 400 is your favorite engine! The 429/460 is such a all around better option! :beatyoass:
underdog status :) .. i want to get a 400 and start tinkering.. have some nice H-beams milled.. larger journal crank.. some shagy shagy high comp pistons.. i need access to machinist equipment :(
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 22, 2012, 12:10:22 AM
About six years ago I had a 400M built for my '79 F-250, it was suppose to be rated right around 400hp. I don't remember the specs on everything ( I know the compression was bumped up to 10.5:1 and there was a decent cam installed), I built it to match the specs of a 400M the HotRod magazine had built for an old Torino I think? Anyways they had the article, with the build, and the dyno test so I thought "Why not try it". Dad had a pretty much stock 429 that would just run circles around me! Ticked me off to waste the time and effort building that thing. The 400m has a great place in anything that your going to work or tow with, but the 460 still whips on it bad! :D
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Post by: Chrome on March 22, 2012, 12:10:58 AM
Don't know why 400s get such a bad rap. The're tough and you can get pretty good power out of them. Can't beat a canted valve head!
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Post by: Shadow on March 22, 2012, 12:15:30 AM
first thing to do with a modified is DITCH THOSE HEADS! lol but i want to play with the bottom end of 1.. NO ONE makes anything for them except OEM-rated .. i had 1 in my 78 F250 ranger with a 4 speed.. of course, 1st gear was useless (granny) but after 2nd, it would break the tires loose and all it had was a 750 holley with 1 of those stupid 4 barrel carb to 2 barrel intake adapters LOL note: i bought it like that!
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 22, 2012, 12:22:02 AM
I was running aluminum intake, 4v carb, headers, MSD ignition, C6 with a stall, 9 inches of lift, and 35 inch BFGs. It ran decent, but if I had spent the same amount of money in a DOVE 460 the performance would have been amazing!
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Post by: Chrome on March 22, 2012, 12:24:00 AM
:ies:
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first thing to do with a modified is DITCH THOSE HEADS! lol but i want to play with the bottom end of 1.. NO ONE makes anything for them except OEM-rated .. i had 1 in my 78 F250 ranger with a 4 speed.. of course, 1st gear was useless (granny) but after 2nd, it would break the tires loose and all it had was a 750 holley with 1 of those stupid 4 barrel carb to 2 barrel intake adapters LOL note: i bought it like that!
You mess with the bottom end and I'll caress the top. We'll haver screamin in no time! lol
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Post by: Shadow on March 22, 2012, 12:25:45 AM
i thought about trying to use a 429 crank to build a 400 stroker.. that would be sweet :)
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Post by: Shadow on March 22, 2012, 12:26:24 AM
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:ies: You mess with the bottom end and I'll caress the top. We'll haver screamin in no time! lol
i call dibs on the portwork on the aussie 4V's.. LOL
EDIT.. now i get it.. you prevert! hahah
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Post by: XR7-4.6 on March 22, 2012, 12:40:01 AM
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HA.. you sound like a grumpy old fart who sprays kids with a hose from his porch.. i dislike your opinion, GREATLY.. while plastidip does seem to be stupid, i have to greatly disagree with you and your dislike for satin black.. satin black looks 100 times better than any shade of yellow, most shades of white and (obvious statement here) a million times better than doodoo brown.. i must admit, most people can't pull things together to make it look right.. and 'murdering it out' is lame in my opinion ( i hate window tint, but that's only scratching the surface)..
If they're on my lawn they should be sprayed with a garden hose lol
I didn't forbid anyone from doing It, I just said I don't and won't understand the attraction besides it being cheap and popular. It just seems (to me) like another shallow method of "standing out from the crowd" amongst the luxury car crowd in the same way big wheels were, body colored lips on dished wheels, ect. were for them over the last decade. And before that, car phones, body kits, and even further than that, yes, the colors yellow and brown. perspective is a bitch aint it?
In the same way those colors look like to you today, matte black will look the same way in the future. I've seen nice cars with it and I'll concede they can look downright classy in the right light and if they avoid dust, rain, dirt, tree sap, tar, or brake dust they might even keep their finish looking good for a month or two.
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Post by: Shadow on March 22, 2012, 12:45:26 AM
popularity is for high school kids.. i use it because i like it lol i liked it before these spoiled little punks with audis bought by mommy and daddy started using it.. when done in the correct fashion, it looks great.. i don't, however, think everything on the car should be satin black.. that i don't understand.. a friend of mine has a 2002 extreme.. lowered, all black, black wheels, tinted windows, tinted tail lights/head lights/marker lights.. it looks.. well.. no other word to use, except.. stupid
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Post by: Chrome on March 22, 2012, 01:05:20 AM
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If they're on my lawn they should be sprayed with a garden hose lol
I didn't forbid anyone from doing It, I just said I don't and won't understand the attraction besides it being cheap and popular. It just seems (to me) like another shallow method of "standing out from the crowd" amongst the luxury car crowd in the same way big wheels were, body colored lips on dished wheels, ect. were for them over the last decade. And before that, car phones, body kits, and even further than that, yes, the colors yellow and brown. perspective is a bitch aint it?
In the same way those colors look like to you today, matte black will look the same way in the future. I've seen nice cars with it and I'll concede they can look downright classy in the right light and if they avoid dust, rain, dirt, tree sap, tar, or brake dust they might even keep their finish looking good for a month or two.
Please god let the big wheels fad go away!
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Post by: Shadow on March 22, 2012, 01:21:29 AM
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Please god let the big wheels fad go away!
*first, let me state i am not being racist.. this is an observation i have made and it seems to stand true everywhere that i know of*
i don't think the donk fad will go away anytime soon.. i just think it'll get worse.. black guys have a 'bigger is better' mentality.. big chains, big pants, big wheels, etc etc.. it's ridiculous and it just gets worse as time goes on.. there's a bagged hummer rolling around here (i think it's bagged at least) on 32's.. it's hideous.. HIDEOUS i tell you
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Post by: dragon574444 on March 22, 2012, 02:07:40 AM
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Im just trying to say that while classifying is to some extend necessary for communication. Sometimes creating an environment of that stunts creativity and innovation. I remember a time on TCCOA when everyone was insisting that a PI head and cam swap was the ONLY way to do it. And the honda guys had a stint where the ultimate engine was the type R (b18 is it?) but in the end it turns out that motor is now considered trash for many reasons. Hell im still convinced one day someone will figure how how to modify a ford 400 to be amazing... but thats a long shot.
"We saw this Ford deliver an insane 515 lb-ft of torque right at the bottom of the power pull at only 2,500 rpm."
"What Kaase's Ford did as the rpm piled on was swing the torque needle on the dyno readout like it came unhinged. The engine peaked at 618 lb-ft. Consider that at 401 cubic inches, that's a specific torque of 1.54 lb-ft per cube. Frankly, you just don't see that kind of output from 400 inches of single four-barrel, 10.5:1 compression, flat-tappet street engine, but there it was, making 654 horsepower at only 6,200 rpm."
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Post by: Shadow on March 22, 2012, 02:35:39 AM
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but there it was, making 654 horsepower at only 6,200 rpm. then it blew up"
LOL fixed! he cheats! he IS a machinist and probably made a stronger crank and rods.. THAT JERK :(
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Post by: dragon574444 on March 22, 2012, 02:49:20 AM
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LOL fixed! he cheats! he IS a machinist and probably made a stronger crank and rods.. THAT JERK :(
I'll be honest, I lol'd a little.
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Post by: Shadow on March 22, 2012, 02:57:44 AM
i have to to admit, kaase is the freaking man.. i give him a standing ovation for the boss 9
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Post by: atroxr7 on March 22, 2012, 04:40:13 AM
wow someone hit the hot button on this while I was at work. Opinions here, I love rat rods, not because rust looks good, but because they do some really crazy mods to the structure of the car without giving a what anyone else thinks, then stop the project before it gets to a point where people are judging the quality of the paint job and so on. Lets be honest here, with really nice paint jobs running up near $5000 or better, its simply not a game that everyone can play. Im not the biggest fan of flat black but satin black on a car with big bold shagy curves really does it for me. Im also the kind of guy that hates chrome in most cases. Id rather see satin black with red powder coated trim over gloss black and and chrome ANY DAY. To each there own tho. But man, some of you have been chugging haterade. Seriously, its ridiculous to to sit there and pretend you know why people wanna mod cars the way they do. And everyone changes their tastes over time. Im sure someone on here can dissect everything I just said and explain why Im wrong and you're right, but whats the point... its plastidip, its cheap, and it comes back off pain free. Oh and my buddy here just used it today to blackout his emblems... looked good to me.
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Post by: Beau on March 22, 2012, 07:15:35 AM
Every 351m/400 I've ever heard of has shiznit the bed, due to either timing chain/gear issues, oiling, or otherwise spitting a rod bearing. Flawed design.
The only thing they had going for 'em was the canted Cleveland style valve layout...and as mentioned in my Shetland Pony thread, there are better heads anyway.
Rat Rods...hmmm, those are found, but not built. Neither a hater, nor a fan, but I laugh on the inside when someone tries to make a "mainstream" vehicle into something that it just can't be.
And that plastidip shiznit....is exactly that. shiznit.
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Post by: Shadow on March 22, 2012, 01:41:39 PM
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but satin black on a car with big bold shagy curves really does it for me. Im also the kind of guy that hates chrome in most cases. Id rather see satin black with red powder coated trim over gloss black and and chrome ANY DAY.
AMEN! i prefer brushed aluminum and painted trim over chrome, hands down.. same goes for certain grills.. glass black and chrome just look.. blah.. not the worst color combo, but definitely not on my top 10 list.. satin black with billet wheels and brushed trim.. i must go change my pants now :) .. but even more than satin/brushed, i looooove 3 color 2 tones.. especially if blue and charcoal are in the mix.. i must change my pants again.. lol
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Every 351m/400 I've ever heard of has shiznit the bed, due to either timing chain/gear issues, oiling, or otherwise spitting a rod bearing. Flawed design.
The only thing they had going for 'em was the canted Cleveland style valve layout...and as mentioned in my Shetland Pony thread, there are better heads anyway.
Rat Rods...hmmm, those are found, but not built. Neither a hater, nor a fan, but I laugh on the inside when someone tries to make a "mainstream" vehicle into something that it just can't be.
the poor 400M had little to no improvements made by ford, from start to finish.. such a bummer, because they have such great potential to be something great, if given the research and tinkering time, i bet they could live a lot happier at the top end.. their biggest problem is the windsor crank journals
how are rat rods not built? the first distinct tell-tale sign of a rat rod is the obvious chopped top.. then all the other modifications made to the suspension and everything else.. just as much time (minus paint time, of course lol) is spent building a top notch rat rod, as say.. socal customs spends on 1 of their resto rods.. the thing i like most about rat rods is the fact that most of them look like they were just pulled straight out of a farmer's field lol
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Post by: Beau on March 22, 2012, 02:22:39 PM
That's kinda what I meant, lol. Drug out of a field or a barn, slapped together with whatever parts are laying around, and driven hard.
Meaning you can't just take a restored car and "turn it into" a rat car... ;)
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Post by: XR7-4.6 on March 22, 2012, 02:45:50 PM
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wow someone hit the hot button on this while I was at work. Opinions here, I love rat rods, not because rust looks good, but because they do some really crazy mods to the structure of the car without giving a what anyone else thinks, then stop the project before it gets to a point where people are judging the quality of the paint job and so on. Lets be honest here, with really nice paint jobs running up near $5000 or better, its simply not a game that everyone can play. Im not the biggest fan of flat black but satin black on a car with big bold shagy curves really does it for me. Im also the kind of guy that hates chrome in most cases. Id rather see satin black with red powder coated trim over gloss black and and chrome ANY DAY. To each there own tho. But man, some of you have been chugging haterade. Seriously, its ridiculous to to sit there and pretend you know why people wanna mod cars the way they do. And everyone changes their tastes over time. Im sure someone on here can dissect everything I just said and explain why Im wrong and you're right, but whats the point... its plastidip, its cheap, and it comes back off pain free. Oh and my buddy here just used it today to blackout his emblems... looked good to me.
Yes peoples tastes do change over time, no doubt about that. What a coincidence though that a group of people would collectively change their tastes to the same thing in the same given time at the height of its popularity... hmm I think there's a 3 letter word for that...
And nobody's right or wrong, that's the beauty of opinions. I'm of the opinion that factory faded shiznit brown looks better than rattlecan flat black on any given car. Disagree? Well looks like you chugged some of that haterade too.
And I don't pretend to know why people mod the cars the way they do, I use deductive reasoning and it pretty much automatically paints a picture. Here's my current observations:
-Some people are car enthusiasts; they were into cars when they were little kids; they were into cars in their teens and they were into cars as adults. They basically think about cars all day long and drone on and on about cars to friends/family whenever the opportunity arises. They try do anything they can do to their own car, in whatever style they want, no matter how expensive(money or time) or physically involved it is, just for the fun of it.
-Some people are faux car enthusiasts; Here their enthusiasm starts with their drivers license; grows when they see popularity afoot when they have a certain car or car components; then mindlessly follow the work of others in the cheapest/least involved way as possible so as to keep their little car hobby from taking up too much of their precious time. That's where plastidip seems to come in for most.
Having said all that, note that I like "rat rods" too. IF they're indeed built by their owners, IF they're driven all the time, and IF the rusty/bare metal finish isn't some professionally done fake rust treatment like oh so many of them actually are. Problem is, in my opinion, rat rodding doesn't transcend post-war car designs. The ability to run without fenders and running boards gives them a skeleton like character that makes them cool. That doesn't work quite as well on full bodied, especially aero-jellybean bodystyles nearly as well, except maybe minitrucks.
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Post by: atroxr7 on March 22, 2012, 04:24:05 PM
oh Im right with you on rats being a personal thing. I cant imagine paying someone to build me a rat. or fake rust. Honestly the rust is a look ive found only really looks right on old cars here in in socal. The weather is very different and they develop a lot of surface corrosion without structural fail. The same "looking" rust in ohio would be a 99% indication that you dont even wanna touch that body. Here its easy to see the difference in the 2 (cars to "rust out" here too obviously).
I met a guy back in toledo area that had a 34ish chevy (if memory serves me right) that at one time had a beautiful black paint job. He did this whole "busted knuckles" paint over the top of that with a roller and some half ass crosshatch pattern it and it came out great. Looked like something right out the rat magazines. Better than the original black tho? probably not but it was more unique and turned a lot more heads.
I actually had the idea years ago to attempt a fenderless build on my 96 cougar. some unibody cars have that wedge shape going naturally if you strip off the fenders and trim the ends (headlight area) off the bumper and rad support. The inner fender is of course ugly but may yield some fun ideas for (replacing, or glassing a fascia to make it look like its supposed to be that way. Ultimately I think this would require tpuppies the fender all the way to the upper spring mount and completely reshaping the hood. This all sounds crazy I know but one day when I had a fender off I saw it in my head.
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Post by: Romeo2k on March 22, 2012, 07:35:18 PM
I just thought of a nice way I could use this stuff~I can blackout my chrome trim pieces and if I decide I don't like the look after all, Just peel it off. :mullet:
I was also looking around and it seems you can mix up any color you need, And they have a clear~Clear would be great to protect a nice paint job.
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Post by: Chrome on March 22, 2012, 07:58:52 PM
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. Im also the kind of guy that hates chrome in most cases. .
Gee.....Thanks a lot. I love u too! lol
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Post by: Shadow on March 22, 2012, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: XR7-4.6;384848
I'm of the opinion that factory faded shiznit brown looks better than rattlecan flat black on any given car.
Having said all that, note that I like "rat rods" too. IF they're indeed built by their owners, IF they're driven all the time, and IF the rusty/bare metal finish isn't some professionally done fake rust treatment like oh so many of them actually are. Problem is, in my opinion, rat rodding doesn't transcend post-war car designs. The ability to run without fenders and running boards gives them a skeleton like character that makes them cool. That doesn't work quite as well on full bodied, especially aero-jellybean bodystyles nearly as well, except maybe minitrucks.
who said anything about flat black? lol
i definitely agree with you on the pre/post war statement.. i don't care what anyone says, a '50 buick (for example) doesn't transcend the rat appeal.. it's all about the pre-war (and some war-current) rigid body styling, even as far back as a model A/T body.. and the fake patina only looks good if it's done correctly.. i've seen a lot of piss-poor attempts and it just looks horrible.. trucks (on spike) actually did a half decent job on their classix project, with the 'faded, beaten down, sun dried' paint scheme.. the 1 thing that really kills it is the yellow they used for the trucks logo.. for a true 'old school shop truck' feel, they should have gone with white, as yellow wasn't exactly a very common color back 'then'
but as for the minis, which i'm heavily into, they have to be painted the right way.. satin is ok for a project or 2 tone scheme with a gloss color on top, but not as a single solid 'i'm too cheap to paint my truck after all this work' permanent paint
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Post by: Shadow on March 22, 2012, 09:24:56 PM
Quote from: Chrome;384884
Gee.....Thanks a lot. I love u too! lol
hahahah
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 24, 2012, 01:24:26 PM
Say what you want but I think that looks sweet! :D
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Post by: Shadow on March 24, 2012, 04:35:24 PM
all i see is a bunch of junk plastic and s metal wrapped around a good micro motor :p
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Post by: T-BirdX3 on March 24, 2012, 04:48:06 PM
lol :punchballs:
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Post by: dragon574444 on March 25, 2012, 01:16:03 AM
I'm not a sports bike person, but I think it looks pretty good. Is that yours?
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Post by: StrokerBird on March 28, 2012, 03:14:14 PM
I wonder how that stuff would hold up on the fuel tanks on my semi?
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Post by: atroxr7 on March 30, 2012, 04:18:55 AM
Quote from: Chrome;384884
Gee.....Thanks a lot. I love u too! lol
bwahaha, sorry been away a bit and just got back to this, hillarious.
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Post by: bullitt4514 on April 09, 2012, 02:37:24 AM
I replaced the broken wing extension on the TC, which was a different color, so I tried this stuff. (http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/529217_329750423745520_100001316940441_835982_1760946920_n.jpg)