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Title: This car would beat Every car on this website!
Post by: Glocklimited9 on January 25, 2012, 07:23:23 PM
Well atleast to 100 :burnout:

http://traxxas.com/products/models/electric/6407xo1

This thing is nuts
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Post by: Glocklimited9 on January 25, 2012, 07:24:47 PM
oops meant to post this in the off topic section
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on January 25, 2012, 07:34:51 PM
Wow thats cool.
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Post by: shame302 on January 25, 2012, 08:39:15 PM
Yep, While it's pricey, Its just another reason why Traxxas kicks arse.
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Post by: ZondaC12 on January 25, 2012, 08:44:50 PM
Traxxas has really stepped their game up. I was into R/C's a few years ago and they offered nothing like that. If that's your price range...it'd better be built right and it had better DO WORK. Most badass points for brushless. Won't be long before every electric R/C is brushless. Or a vast majority anyway.
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Post by: Haystack on January 25, 2012, 08:49:31 PM
When taxes come I am going to be buying a couple of batteries and motors for my slow stick. Also been thinking about some other faster planes. These brushless motors are nuts compared to a brushed motor.
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Post by: Glocklimited9 on January 25, 2012, 08:57:03 PM
I havent played with my rc cars in 10 years and like you guys said they had nothing like this back then, the brushless motors are incredible , i could never stomac dropping that much coin on an Rc car but dam that thing moves
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Post by: shame302 on January 25, 2012, 09:11:04 PM
You could build one for FAR less that equals it. I wouldn't do it but I'm not into road stuff. The only way I'll ever get another surface vehicle is if it's a Traxxas/Mamba Brushless E-Revo. It'll do 70 out of the box. I also want a Traxxas Spartan boat. It's nasty. Good for over 50 on the water. Nitro's days are numbered. It's still much cheaper to go nitro with the larger airplanes but electric is better.
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Post by: Base92 on January 27, 2012, 04:43:33 AM
lol that little thing is crazy, my brother has a traxxas e maxx its not brushless but its water proof and bad @$$! we also got a old bandit and an old stampede mad fun to play with haha
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Post by: Kitz Kat on January 27, 2012, 12:57:32 PM
Amazing,wonder how fast it would go with me sitting on it. It is amazing how something so small with little wheels can do that.
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Post by: Soul on January 27, 2012, 01:06:12 PM
I want one of the little gas powered RC cars, but they are an expensive hobby to start.
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Post by: Kitz Kat on January 27, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
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I want one of the little gas powered RC cars, but they are an expensive hobby to start.

 I made one about 20 years ago with a plane motor. Crashed it broke the engine,it was fast though,just not very street-able. made a go cart with a honda 500-4 to, that worked about the same. That was scary.
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Post by: Haystack on January 27, 2012, 02:18:56 PM
Honestly, just the price of nitro gas, your better off using electric. As fas as my planes go, I bought a kit for $20 (the slow stick by gws) a $10 motor (2409-12a) a 18 esc ($15?) Receiver ($15) two micro servo's ($3) one of my dads old fm radio's and a 1500mah 1800 an 2100mah batteries, extras from old planes or about $8 each. I have been flying the plane for a year, crashed it, broken props, and so far the only thing I have had to replace was the micro servo's, which are a bit small anyways, and a couple of props.

Just a couple days ago I flew for 2 hours straight. $1 per hour enjoyed, I figure it costs me about $10 an hour to see a movie. This I fly at the park or a church parkinglot right down the street.
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Post by: shame302 on January 27, 2012, 02:48:38 PM
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I want one of the little gas powered RC cars, but they are an expensive hobby to start.
Nitro is cheaper than electric by the time you're up and running with the right equipment. Performance is much better with electric though, and its clean. I'd never go back to nitro. As far as aircraft go, I'll only ever get another non-electric if its a giant scale 100+cc gas plank.

You can get into it pretty cheap if you buy used but you have to be careful. IMHO, It's not worth getting a surface model unless its all wheel drive. They are all just too powerful to be messing around with 2wd.

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Honestly, just the price of nitro gas, your  better off using electric. As fas as my planes go, I bought a kit for  $20 (the slow stick by gws) a $10 motor (2409-12a) a 18 esc ($15?)  Receiver ($15) two micro servo's ($3) one of my dads old fm radio's and a  1500mah 1800 an 2100mah batteries, extras from old planes or about $8  each. I have been flying the plane for a year, crashed it, broken props,  and so far the only thing I have had to replace was the micro servo's,  which are a bit small anyways, and a couple of props.

Just a  couple days ago I flew for 2 hours straight. $1 per hour enjoyed, I  figure it costs me about $10 an hour to see a movie. This I fly at the  park or a church parkinglot right down the street.

Technically you shouldn't be doing that with FM (or PCM). You should have an AMA and be flying at a dedicated club field. Get yourself a DX6 2.4 used and jump on HobbyKing.com and get some of the knock off spektrum HK Orange RXs. You can get some super cheap Lipos as well.

I'm loving how popular the park flyers have gotten. I only take my nitro planks out 2 or 3 times a year because it's such a hassle. I can fly my helis and electric park flyers just about anywhere anytime if I want to including my back yard.
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Post by: Haystack on January 28, 2012, 12:13:45 AM
Why do I need to fly fm or at a ama feild? My father and grandpa donated three feilds to the ama. One got turned into the olympic skate rink for the 2002 olympics. The other two got turned into soccer feilds. They sold all three plots of land and never even informed my dad or grandpa. I'm not driving 25 miles because they sold all of our flying feilds to fly a 19oz plane. Way to pay back the owners of a hobby shop.

I am flying fm because spektrum was still pretty new and more expensive then the fm receiver and crystal. That and the 25 fm radios we have laying around vs the one decent specktrum radio, and I want to fly the same time as my dad. The fm radio I have right now I peeled the plastic off of, and it was a $600 radio. A $200 radio is a bit much for a hobby your not sure you need to get into. I do plan on buying a new radio when I buy my next plane though. Even if I did fly ama, they always have fm people flying too.

How is nitro cheaper? You couldn't even buy a gas motor for everything I have into my plane.
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Post by: shame302 on January 28, 2012, 11:30:55 AM
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Why do I need to fly fm or at a ama feild? My father and grandpa donated three feilds to the ama. One got turned into the olympic skate rink for the 2002 olympics. The other two got turned into soccer feilds. They sold all three plots of land and never even informed my dad or grandpa. I'm not driving 25 miles because they sold all of our flying feilds to fly a 19oz plane. Way to pay back the owners of a hobby shop.
yeah, that's pretty lame. All I said was technically you should be. I don't fly at an AMA field anymore either (unless I fly my 40 size nitros. Just cant do that anywhere else safely. They can do some serious damage in case of a mishap. I've lost one because a retard with a TX on the same channel as mine turned his on while I was in flight. The Cap was wot and at the far end of the field an eights mile from the highway. It could have been ugly. With 2.4 that simply would never happen. It's worth the small investment. Obviously your small park flier isn't likely to cause much damage but it could still hurt someone. With a 550 size heli, I wouldn't risk the model or safety of others or myself. Just something to think about.

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I am flying fm because spektrum was still pretty new and more expensive then the fm receiver and crystal. That and the 25 fm radios we have laying around vs the one decent specktrum radio, and I want to fly the same time as my dad. The fm radio I have right now I peeled the plastic off of, and it was a $600 radio. A $200 radio is a bit much for a hobby your not sure you need to get into. I do plan on buying a new radio when I buy my next plane though. Even if I did fly ama, they always have fm people flying too.
You can get a used DX6 or 7 for less than 150 bucks and RX from 6 to 60 with the 10 dollar RX being good for most models. Worth selling some of those archaic FM TX.

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How is nitro cheaper? You couldn't even buy a gas motor for everything I have into my plane.[/QUOTE]
Seriously? When you consider scale how is it not. Obviously with back yard scale planes like yours you'd be talking half A size motors, It's just not desirable. Start getting into "nitro size" .40 up airplanes the nitro stuff generally has the cost advantage. No way around it.
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Post by: Haystack on January 28, 2012, 02:43:33 PM
As fasr as spektrum goes, I might buy one when I get my next plane. I have been waiting for them to fix the brown outs, loss of signal, cheap caps and lack of range problems they have been having for years. Overall, I guess I'll have to settle for using one of the $500-1000 brand new futaba radio's I have sitting right here.

$50 was the cheapest new .40 sized nitro motor I could find. $50 will get you a .49 sized electric motor and 60a speed controler. Then for every quart of $15 nitro, you can buy a new batter at 14.8v and 3000mah with a 25c discharge. I asked my dad how nitro's compared in larger aircraft. He said a .60 size scale plane would use about a quart of fuel every 30 minutes. So let's say at least $20 an hour just in fuel. Would be better for a .40 sized plane, but not cheaper unless you didn't count the price of fuel. I don't even know where to get nitro locally anymore. Closest hobby shop to me dropped it because it wasn't selling, and they did want to get the homland swqurity clearance to keep it.

I have about 50 nitro motors, plus probably just as many on planes in my garage. I think the last one flew in maybe 2008 or earlier. My slow stick goes out everyday.

When I fly at the park, I do it near first light, and not when there are people around. At the church is empty every day till about 6pm, and has its own feild that I fly over.

Plus large scale nitro jobs aren't gonna fly through the goal posts nearly as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nupo6U40xIY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Post by: shame302 on January 28, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
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So let's say at least $20 an hour just in fuel.
LOL,That's absurd.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Unless you're buying shiznit  electronics, your estimated costs are way out of line imho. If you think  you're getting a decent "49 size" BL motor and 60 Amp esc you're wrong.  That or my standards are higher than yours. A quality .46 size  outrunner like Axi, Hacker or even Eflight is going to cost you 100-120  alone easy. decent 60-70 amp esc, again flightpower or E-flight, another  easy 85 bucks. That 14.8v and 3000mah with a 25c discharge is 1, on the  small side, and 2, you forget to mention just how many packs you have.  I'd have to assume more than one or the fun is over kind of quickly. I'd  run 5000mah packs. Those are 160 each (flightpower 30 C). Don't forget  the Lipo charger, 160-200 bucks. Ballancer, 30 bucks, power supply (if  not an AC/DC charger) 50 bucks.


Mid-low end
Turnigy .46 50 bucks
Turnigy 60 amp 60 bucks
Turnigy 30 C (ya right) 5000 4S 50 bucks
HK whatever....60-80 bucks if you're brave enough to use it.





.46FX ~ 80 bucks
servo 13 bucks
rx pack 9 bucks
Uh, gallon of nitro, 18-20 bucks.
hand crank, 11 bucks
ni starter, 15 bucks.

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I have about 50 nitro motors, plus probably just as many on  planes in my garage
That's a hell of a collection. also, it's  cheaper for you cause you already have it all. Post up some pics you  probably have some neat stuff in there.

I'm not going to argue about AMA and weather or not spread spectrum is  better than PCM/FM. I've always been a futaba guy and I've still got my  7CHP but it's getting phased out.

I'm glad your slow stick gets a lot of air time and you enjoy it but  it's not a great basis on the hobby in general. Its a cheap beginner  airplane. I'm not saying that to take a shot at you either. 3ch just  isn't for me, I like my ailerons. Meh, No matter what it's a great hobby  and I encourage everybody to give it a shot.

This is all I have, nothing earth shattering:
GP Cap 232 (40 size nitro)
Hobbico Avistar (40 size nitro)
GP Trainer 40. This was an old kit that was given to me un finished. I completed it. Its a fully symmetrical tail dragger now
GP Decathalon (60 size nitro with a .91) sold it
Precision aerobatics katana mini
Precision aerobatics Electric shock (love this thing)
3DHS 41" Edge (the 99 buck huck) Love this thing
WMPF McFoamy

Gaui Hurricane 550 heli
Blade MCPX heli (BLconversion)
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Post by: Haystack on January 29, 2012, 11:02:49 AM
You give me an hour or two, and I would be glad to get you some quick pictures.

Eflite makes nice stuff, but their overpriced. For the tower hobbys sized motor I have on my slow stick, I paid $11 or I think $18 with a 20 amp speed control. Eflight for just the motor is $45. And yes the slow stick is a beginner plane. My next plane will have aleroins. But as long as it works an I am broke, I am going to fly it. I'll tell you. Everything I have into my plane, start to finish, and what it costs.

Started out with 800mah 3cells that came with one of my dad's helicopters. Bought the plane for $25. $3 for micro servo's for a helicopter. Receiver was $10, I think $13 with crystal. A spektrum was $20 when I bought this.radio is borrowed, but you could probably pick up for $25. Motor was $10 or $11. I think you can get them, or their equivilent, for $6.speed control 20a was about $10. $5 eflight helicopter palancing charger, old computer powersupply for the 12v's. We had a bteer charger, but it burned up. I wish I had a better one though. I am taking 3-5 hours if I run them till the motor cut out. The 800map ones my dad runs, those arecharged in 30mins or so each.

I really have barely $50 into my plane, plus batteries. I run one 1500, 1800 and 2100mah. The 15 and 1800's are good for 30-45 mins each, and the 2100 I have gotten over an hour out of. I doubt I have $50 woth of batteries. Try heads up rc for your motors. Buy batteries at hobby king, and buy a cheaper battery that is one size up, and you'll save hundreds it sounds like.

Let me name off some kits sitting in the garage.
We have the hobby co .40 trainer, hasn't moved in about 3 years, os max motor.
"Snoopy" bipe stick .35 tossle motor.
Rossy .60 engine on a tippararri.
Dirty birdie .60
Super kaos .60
Butterfly .15os max
Quickie 500 k&b .40
Dyna flight cessna twin electric.
 Between me and my dad, 3 slow sticks. Most popular best selling plane ever made. Not the best plane, but anyone can fly it once they get orientation down.

These are just some assembled planes that have flown for many years. We also have some old school helicopters. You'll have to wait on pictures, because most of them were custom one off jobs. My grandpa liked to design planes, including flying wings in the 70's. We have a pen 15s .010 3" prop. Mokie size? That throws a 22" prop.