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Technical => Suspension/Steering => Topic started by: lakenheath24 on January 21, 2012, 09:47:22 PM

Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: lakenheath24 on January 21, 2012, 09:47:22 PM
I was doing a 5 lug swap and all was going well til i found 2 gears in my oil drainpan!  they are the ones that the big pin goes thru.  i got no idea how they just "fell" out.  Now I cant figure out how to put then back in.  I am trying to "lock" one axle and rotate the ring gear, but I cant get it to mesh back in.  What to do!
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: Bob on January 21, 2012, 10:15:08 PM
LOL, been there with those spider gears.  They fell out cause you had the pin out and turned the yoke? It's been 10 years since I had this happen so the details are fuzzy,  I remember lining up the little gears and turning yoke till the little gears walked into place.  I'm sure someone can give you a better description.. seeing your post brought back memories LOL don't worry you'll be okay its a 2 min fix if that.

edit:  was thinking back to when that happened to me, you have to put both gears in at that same time cause if you only try to put one in when your rotating you can get one in but it will fall out when you try the second gear in..( I think I setup the yoke to where I can see everything and than rotated the axle till they both walked into place)
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: TOM Renzo on January 21, 2012, 11:10:43 PM
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Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: TOM Renzo on January 21, 2012, 11:16:06 PM
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Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: TOM Renzo on January 21, 2012, 11:34:14 PM
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Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: lakenheath24 on January 22, 2012, 11:10:29 AM
Easy my a$$. LOL  I am trying to lock the ring gear, and then turn an axle to roll the gear up..is that correct? The spider gear just binds right away.    I am having a hell of a time trying to bind up the ring gear cuz I dont have any wheels now that i have the 5 lug axles in and the brake calipers arent on yet.
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: TOM Renzo on January 22, 2012, 02:05:15 PM
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Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: thewestie on January 22, 2012, 02:07:01 PM
You need a helper put a pry bar in the studs and rotate till its resting on the ground. Or take a break walk away for a minute and call a friend . Good luck or do it like Tom said
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: lakenheath24 on January 22, 2012, 06:19:05 PM
how do I "spin the spider"?  Are the side gears supposed to move easily, cuz I gotta use a prybar on the axle with the driveshaft locked up to make em move. If i move the driveshaft or an axle, the ring gear and housing spin, while the side gears dont move.  Even then I get it close, it wont go past the housing.  In fact the thrust washer came flying off when i gave it a bit of force.
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: TOM Renzo on January 22, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
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Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: lakenheath24 on January 22, 2012, 07:34:08 PM
it's a posi unit.  My bad, i didnt mention that.
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: 5.0 tbird on January 22, 2012, 11:42:33 PM
You're gonna need to take the S spring out to take the preload off the side gears so you can rotate them independently and install the spiders.
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: lakenheath24 on January 23, 2012, 09:13:07 AM
ooof, that sounds bad. LOL  I cant figure out how the hell they just fell out!
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: EricCoolCats on January 23, 2012, 02:38:22 PM
Let teh Internets help you... :)
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=8.8+rear+end&oq=8.8+rear+end&aq=f&aqi=g2g-m2&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=739l3680l0l4607l12l11l0l0l0l0l193l1519l2.9l11l0
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: lakenheath24 on January 24, 2012, 06:27:38 PM
S-spring is out and the spiders are back in....now to get that spring back in........
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: Thunder Chicken on January 25, 2012, 11:25:55 AM
Would be a good time to do the clutches while it's out...
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: Kitz Kat on January 25, 2012, 03:50:18 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;378727
Would be a good time to do the clutches while it's out...

I'm still trying to figure how the gears fell out? Look at Eric's links and the answer to the spring is there.
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: lakenheath24 on January 25, 2012, 07:03:47 PM
I got everything back in and I'll be ed if the axles aren't at least an 1" to long!  They were supposed to be from a 98 Mustang, and a direct swap.  Bummed.
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: doodaa on January 26, 2012, 03:48:59 PM
Wish I'd seen this earlier, I'd have ridden over to help out and maybe learn something. I've got a set of GT wheels I could've brought too.
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: lakenheath24 on January 26, 2012, 04:58:37 PM
Come on over.  I have to pull the axles back out cuz they are too long.  They were SUPPOSED to be 98GT axles, but are an 1" too long.  I need to measure them and see what's up.  You wouldnt happen to have any sn-95 axles would ya?
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: doodaa on January 27, 2012, 01:51:08 PM
I think the only thing I've got left is the rear I bought from Chuck? out in Jay..... the TC one. The SN95 went with the ex in the breakup. Though I might still have that GT rear that was supposed to go in it too, been awhile since I dug through my storage room.
Title: 8.8 rearend problem
Post by: Chuck W on January 27, 2012, 01:57:06 PM
Quote from: lakenheath24;378799
I got everything back in and I'll be ed if the axles aren't at least an 1" to long!  They were supposed to be from a 98 Mustang, and a direct swap.  Bummed.


They're most likely 99-04 axles, then.