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Title: Hopefully this xr7 is on bags its LOWWW...
Post by: ZondaC12 on January 12, 2012, 01:47:32 PM
(http://images.craigslist.org/5L35W35P63M23F23H1c1bf5c80766bcfa140d.jpg)
 
 
http://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/2794822019.html
Title: Hopefully this xr7 is on bags its LOWWW...
Post by: Shadow on January 12, 2012, 06:16:33 PM
if it's not, it's sitting on the bumpstops lol.. this makes me want to go outside and start ripping my springs out.. i have brand new bags in my bedroom closet, needing a home
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Post by: EFFalcon on January 12, 2012, 06:49:45 PM
Rear doesn't seem that low?
front is a bit.
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Post by: FirstBird on January 12, 2012, 06:53:08 PM
actually looks kinda nice..IMO
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Post by: Shadow on January 12, 2012, 07:58:39 PM
from what i've found through numerous searches and talking to a few people, there's something in the way of letting the rear drop further.. it could be any number of things hanging it up, i'll find out when i put my LCA's in.. i'm sure it's just something stupid a sawzall and a little fab work can fix in no time
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Post by: gumby on January 12, 2012, 09:59:24 PM
meh, it's not that low...
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Post by: ZondaC12 on January 12, 2012, 10:44:49 PM
Yeah it's not literally sitting on the ground....just pulled up the listing and saw that and my eyes almost fell outta my head. Used to the stock height of these cars, which, to many an observer could be alleged as truck-like. Lowered cars are tough with me, I'm poisoned by all these VW's and Hondas on this one local forum that people build and insist on this "stance" look. A "stance" that involves (literally as they show) a credit card's thickness gap between the tire and wheel opening, and tires stretched onto a wheel that's a million sizes too wide, so you have this gaping wheel rim sticking out like a in top or something, and of course let's throw in assloads of negative camber LOL. I see it and fits of rage start overcoming me.

To each his own but like anything there's wild and tasteful....and then there's just...asinine.
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Post by: Shadow on January 13, 2012, 12:01:24 AM
HEY, watch the negative camber comments.. that's my favorite truck club.. :beatyoass: lol

the too narrow of a tire thing is a euro thing.. if you see a honda moron with a setup like that, just yell 'THAT'S NOT JDM..' you'll get a rise out of them lmao

i recall a white cougar i found on car domain.. it was fully bagged with F.B.S.S. but it wouldn't lay out.. i sent him a message to ask why, as that's basically the route i'm taking my white TC.. he has yet to get back to me, though.. i'll find out the hard way ;) .. i'm beginning to wonder if it's because of the inner wheel wells.. tackling something like that scares most people, when it comes to a unibody car.. but i'm a mini trucker, so if it's bagged.. IT BEST LAY FRAME, like so.. ;)

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/26119_10150169118545335_585700334_11987520_136759_n.jpg)
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Post by: EFFalcon on January 13, 2012, 12:17:29 AM
the same white cougar i sent you the link to?
if theres another, i wanna see pics :P
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Post by: Shadow on January 13, 2012, 01:46:01 AM
believe it was a different 1.. you posted the 87-88, right? the 1 i was trying to contact the guy about was a 4 eyed cat, pearl white with the ugliest 17's i've ever seen.. i'll see if i can find it tomorrow
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Post by: ZondaC12 on January 13, 2012, 07:46:42 AM
Well bagged is one thing....when people set those things up permanently like that, I want to ask them if they live in a fantasy world where the entire interstate system is watkins glen? Plenty of sharp elevation changes, bumps potholes....hope they like getting their exhaust ripped off or just not being able to drive it anywhere. Especially Upstate NY roads. DEATH WISH. Seriously...
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Post by: Shadow on January 13, 2012, 09:13:18 AM
i hear ya.. same goes for the guys with S10's who do 6/7 drops.. they sit about as low as that cougar and anyone who's ever been under an S10 should know.. the front of the gas tank hangs just a taaaaaaad below the frame rail.. needless to say, i've sold some of my old gas tanks.. lmao
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Post by: Haystack on January 13, 2012, 01:27:02 PM
I like cars to drive, and trucks to haul . I don't see any point in making either one not do either. I was driving my 87 bird couple hundred miles a day, and I had 2 to 3 guys in a car pool, with 300-400lbs of equipment in the trunk. If the rear was lowered at all I doubt I could even drive it.
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Post by: Shadow on January 13, 2012, 02:07:16 PM
bags don't hinder towing or ride height.. it's all fully adjustable with the flick of a switch or push of a button.. if that cougar is bagged, fully aired up, it will sit at least 2" above ride height

example of bags not hindering towing payload.. and this truck tows all over the east coast for shows and such -

(http://negativecamber.com/ridephotos/loudciv/732007120651PM55021.jpg)
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Post by: Haystack on January 13, 2012, 03:38:41 PM
I understand how bags work. I have used them before.

But the guys that cut up the frames to put in the irs and cut holes in the bed for tires to fit, stuff like that. I could see bags to lift, but why take out what's already there and works?

Not trying to single anyone out, but I think dropped trucks look retarded.
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Post by: Shadow on January 13, 2012, 04:09:40 PM
to each his own.. it's a life style and quite frankly, i don't care what anyone thinks about the trucks i build, except me and the owner of said truck.. 99% of us don't do IRS, it's lame and causes more problems then it could ever be worth - not an opinion, completely true statement.. and for the solid axles, i cut the frame about half way between the cab and axle tube and replace it with a c-notch abd rear clip made out of 2x3 or 2x4 steel, which turns out to be a HELL of a lot stronger than the stock frames

the holes are all covered with wheel tubs and 'bridge covers,' unless there's nice fab work to show off.. you seem to be more about practicality, and i can respect that.. but for me, it's 110% the opposite.. but i'm also not saying bags are impractical, either.. most of the trucks i built are daily driven, a couple of which are owned by private contractors who use them on a daily basis for work
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Post by: Beau on January 13, 2012, 04:11:10 PM
A tasteful drop I can understand, and appreciate...on the other hand, I also have appreciation for a 7 second Thunderbird....the practicality of it is beyond useless to me though.
I'd want to drive the  thing for 120 miles, and not down a strip.

I also can stomach a 3-4 inch lift to fit some bigger tires...the guys that spend 3000 on a lift kit to put 44' Boggers...I just laugh. Again, to me, It's useless if I have to have a ladder to get up in the back to haul a load of wood in to the house.

Not knockin' 'em, just other things I'd spend my money on...if I had any money, and anything worthy of spending it on, lol
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Post by: Shadow on January 13, 2012, 04:14:02 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;377651
Not knockin' 'em, just other things I'd spend my money on...if I had any money, and anything worthy of spending it on, lol

you have something worthy of spending the money on.. you own a bird lol
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Post by: Haystack on January 13, 2012, 07:21:57 PM
I wasn't knocking anyone in particular. I just see a truck as something for work. Otherwise, its just a cramped two seater. I like the stock height of the f-250 with tow package, or the chevy 2500hd or 3500 regulars for ride height. I don't need to step up, and on the fords I didn't even really have to duck at all. If you can't get a ton or two of gravel in a truck, I consider it almost useless. I have thought about getting an s-10 or ranger, just for bigger things I didn't want in my station wagon, like an engine or dirt or something.
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Post by: FirstBird on January 13, 2012, 07:37:43 PM
Ofcourse you won't lower a truck that's meant for work or is a dd but if you are building a cruiser/showcar if it's done tastefully I think lowering looks good imo.
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Post by: Haystack on January 13, 2012, 07:58:20 PM
Everyone else must see it different then I do.
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Post by: Shadow on January 13, 2012, 08:24:57 PM
Quote from: Haystack;377669
I wasn't knocking anyone in particular. I just see a truck as something for work. Otherwise, its just a cramped two seater. I like the stock height of the f-250 with tow package, or the chevy 2500hd or 3500 regulars for ride height. I don't need to step up, and on the fords I didn't even really have to duck at all. If you can't get a ton or two of gravel in a truck, I consider it almost useless. I have thought about getting an s-10 or ranger, just for bigger things I didn't want in my station wagon, like an engine or dirt or something.

i didn't really take it as directed towards me, i read what you said above.. i was just expressing my opinion on the subject.. i agree with your work truck statement, but if you don't need the truck for hauling such things and want to build it for show, that's a completely different scenario.. all of my trucks are either lifted or lowered, according to the drivetrain (4x4, up for mud.. 2wd for appearance).. the red/black S10 i built (as pictured in an earlier post on page 1) was used several times to haul large parts like rears, motors, transmissions.. it had a 2.5 'iron duke' and a 5 speed, so it was anything but a work truck when it rolled off the assembly line
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Post by: Beau on January 13, 2012, 09:14:34 PM
If I could do it cheaply...I'd lift my blue chevy just enough to run 33's...but nothing bigger. It doesn't stop well enough to please me, anyway. (must be used to Ford's overeager whoa! powers, lol)

I'd only lift it a bit so I could play in mud a lot more. Not because it would be a necessity.
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Post by: Shadow on January 13, 2012, 09:16:13 PM
what year? 2wd or 4wd? i know some cheep ways to lift GM trucks using mostly junkyard parts
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Post by: ZondaC12 on January 13, 2012, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: Haystack;377674
Everyone else must see it different then I do.


Im with ya LOL...Ford lightnings and the Ram SRT-10s are cool, even back in the early 90s you had Lightning and the 454 SS, but I can't help but think of how useless the thing is, being a TRUCK! Again people here must have nerves of STEEL to ride on that little suspension travel, stiff springs and rubber bands for tires. I'm not saying our entire roadway system in this state is post-apocalyptic, but someone from California would think so in several towns. I don't know how they do it. Escalades that have the all-too-familiar setup probably don't ride like a log wagon but nowhere near what it can with some meaty tires. If I'm gonna buy a Caddy boy I'd better feel like I'm on a cloud.
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Post by: Beau on January 13, 2012, 10:20:00 PM
Quote from: Shadow;377688
what year? 2wd or 4wd? i know some cheep ways to lift GM trucks using mostly junkyard parts

Ahhh...'88, K1500.

Edit...the "K" indicates it's a four-by lol....plus..I got little use for a 2wd truck on a farm ;)
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Post by: Shadow on January 13, 2012, 10:52:10 PM
aah, torsion keys up front.. you can get 3" lift keys pretty cheap off ebay.. if it was 1 year older, you could just grab some junkyard leafs and add them to the spring packs.. but 3" keys up front and 3" shackles for the rear should have you clearing 33's nicely.. you may get a little rub at full lock if you went with tires any wider than 12.50.. 15.00's would definitely rub before you get to full lock lol
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Post by: Beau on January 14, 2012, 01:13:13 AM
Interesting..will be checking this out...my tires are only a year old, but I might just get one of these kits. hmmm...
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Post by: Shadow on January 14, 2012, 03:35:49 AM
you may be able to get an inch or 2 out of your stock torsion keys.. depends how far the bolts are turned in
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Post by: ZondaC12 on January 14, 2012, 08:25:48 AM
That's the one you put the picture up of in that one thread? Up here people would be all over you trying to buy it :rollin:
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Post by: Beau on January 14, 2012, 01:00:24 PM
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That's the one you put the picture up of in that one thread? Up here people would be all over you trying to buy it :rollin:

This one?
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/P1400400.jpg)

Nahh, my grandparents bought it new..it ain't goin anywhere lol. Nothing special about it..just the wood hauler, kid hauler, farm family 4x4 and it gets the job done. Could use a bit more power for pulling stuff though, that's about my gripe with it. That and GM's stupid-ass design for a stereo.