I have an '87 Cougar with a HO 5.0l out of a 92 Mustang...thinking about adding a supercharger system to the engine next spring. I am not looking for anything to make crazy HP. Just want a little boost....and suggestions? What brand do you recommend? Vortech? Paxton? Procharger....just want some input. Thanks!
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whipple! i actually don't know if whipple makes anything for the old 5.0.. but procharger would be my next option.. vortech's are ok, but i hear a lot of people say bad things about them, but it's always something different.. paxton, meh.. i've heard a LOT of complaints about bearings in the paxtons lately
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^ true.. i forgot to mention ken belle.. never hear anything bad about them, except people complaining about price.. but they complain about the price of all SC's lol
KB is the only company that makes a screw charger for the SBF. I've use Vortech a lot in the past and never had an issue with them and never heard of a single issue with them. There is a reason they are the biggest name in centrifugal supercharging. They know their stuff and they make great products. Go over to the corral and you should be able to find a used kit pretty cheap.
My buddy had an 03 GT with the KB and it was a monster, but it would just roast the tires with no effort. I had a 2000 GT with an S-trim Vortech and it was much better for the street IMO. It makes power progressively, so you can control it a little better. The KB will always be making boost, so that could be a positive as the power is there immediately, but it's also always there, always sipping more fuel, and like I said, it easily makes traction an issue. Centrifugals make more power the faster they spin, so while cruising around town, it's easy not to get into the boost, generally use less fuel, they are more effecient, and more readily available.
If you want a torque monster, get the KB. If you want something a little tamer, but with the ability to be high strung, get a centrifugal. . . . Or you could do even better and get a turbo kit.
cheaper too, if you're handy and can build it yourself
I recommend this one. Although for obvious reasons I don't think you'd want it:rollin:
http://moranav6racing.com/category.html?CategoryID=40
....and you guys though v8 blowers were expensive....
That's would be pretty cheap for anew supercharger for a v-8...
Just about any supercharger for a v-8 will work for a fi v-6, as long as you make the brackets fit, which really isn't hard. The only different thing would be how much higher volume of air you would get compared to a v-8.
agreed and agreed.. at least for a centrifugal, anyway.. roots blower is a bit of a different story, but the 3.8's still have the SC's to rob the chargers from
http://Www.toohighpsi.com
Or you can run two on a 5.8, or you can also mount the super coupe charger on brackets, and use exhaust tubing ti run the cold side. There used ti be a kit like that forever ago you could buy new.
i remember reading up on their 'junkyard' capri build before i built mine.. they suck at updating their site lol
Here's my thoughts on a super charger. Say you buy the cheapest Vortech kit, the 6 psi S3. It's going to add, oh 75hp for about $2000. Now it will work of with the stock setup (fuel injectors, pump etc.) but really should be tuned so it's not using the FMU. You might be better off taking that $2000 and buying a good set of aftermarket aluminum heads, intake, and injectors. With that set up you'll add about 60-70 hp, have the power all the time, and you won't have to wait for the boost to build up. Plus a head and cam swap would put less stress on the bottom end than a blower would.
i have to agree.. 2k in motor, if spent the right way, could put you past the numbers a charger for the same price would make.. and the power would be on tap, not at the twist of yet another pulley under the hood..
Kenne Bell claims that you can get up to 450HP with a stock HO. But they're $3k. I really want a KB.
3k for a busted block? ALRIGHT! where do i sign up? :hick: lmao
The block is good for 500HP. But I'll never own a blower cause for $3K I could make 450HP without the blower. Thats the good thing about having the hook up at machine shop.
the block is good for about 425-450hp with any crank driven power adder.. you'd be better off spending that 3k on a 351 or an aftermarket block and build a turbo motor.. no matter what people say, i will ALWAYS favor turbos.. unless you buy some stupidly priced bolt-on, low boost turbo kit.. a turbo gives you the biggest bang for your buck.. some may argue that nitrous is more bang for your buck, but i beg to differ.. bottles are for babies ;)
I've always been a N/A guy. I'd rather spend the money on crank, rod, pistons, valvetrain, or heads. For $3K I can get full forged rotating assemblie and AFR heads. With alittle extra money I could get the valvetrain and ignition, Ive already have a 650 DP Holley and torker intake. Bam complete 331 with around 400+ ponies. Screw power adders. I would like to add a boss block and be able to turn 7000+ RPMs. The new Boss 302 has me jonesing for a high rpm small block.
i've been all about NA power until i ventured into my first turbo smallblock experience.. my mind has been forever changed.. lol
I lean toward a NA engine myself, but I have to admit the SC whine is really nice, lag in the Marauder is non-existant...
$3K for a Kenne Bell is cheap, the Triology Kits for the Marauders WERE $7K, they recently sold their 250th unit and say it will be the last...
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i agree tom, but SC guys like to argue about it til they're blue in the face.. so i usually stay out of it and just laugh at them as they argue.. lol
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my grandfather says beauty is in the eye of the beer holder :hick:
I paid $1000 for a used Powerdyne centrifugal head unit on ebay and made the brackets myself. My total cost was around $1200 after buying an intercooler and piping. The good thing about the Powerdyne is that it has bearings that are sealed so you dont have to run oil supply and return lines. Im making 8psi without any engine management for a few years now with no issues. So no need to spend a fortune.
I always wanted to do a trick flow top end kit, kb and t-56. Lots of problems with that, knowing what I do now. Right now, if I won the lottery tomorrow, 255 crank, light weight rods and pistons, highports cut teeth t-5 or toploader, stock tc rear stock h.o. cam. That would be a n\a setup,made to last forever. If I really wanted to make power, I would do a kenne bell sc, 408 or 418 stock block, stock h.o. cam, hiports or r series head and basically everything else the same.
Not that I am against turbo's, but I have seen people get near 600ft lbs ar the rear wheels with a kenne bell and stock ported heads. I would either want a high revving n\a, or a monster torque 351 based block. I don't care to get good traction, or race it, just want to blow the tires off whenever I want. I would probably keep stockish sized tires.
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Between my turbo and supercharged cars, I'd. Have to say the turbo is a lot more fun, but the supercharger is a lot more reliable. The turbo backs up a lot of heat and exhaust pressure on the motor.
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Stirring the pot, there is NO such thing as free HP with either a turbo or SC... There is undoubtedly enough back pressure between the exhaust valves and turbo that it costs some HP plus it creates mucho heat... It just happens to be a more efficient method of producing boost vs the SC(that I'll take every time)...
here comes the battle i wanted to avoid.. i'm walking away now LOL
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