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I am learning how to send pics, and it is a new camera. Date is way off. I did manage to create a link for you all to see all of the pics.
Nice, clean looking car. Thought it was a stripper at first glance. You can add all of the images by clicking the image on the reply, then copying the image url in. That way you do not have to attach every picture, or link.
(http://http://photobucket.com/mybird)
i've always liked this color for some reason.. never seen a clean example of it on a bird, though, until now.. looks good! please keep the header with the grill, it adds to her beauty :)
All 6 pics are available in both of my posts. I just can't figure out how to get them to show instead of just giving the link.
Cick on the picture, and there are options to copy image url's.
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It will say [img before and after, and that is what you copy.
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This should be the rest of the pics.
Thank U Haystack!
Very nice!!!
Looks good'n'clean under the bonnet....sharp!
Looks nice and clean!
Looks great :). Not too many LX T-birds on here.
Ohh. Ahhh. Comfy velour interior. I have a soft spot in my heart for baby blue cars since my first one was that color. Very nice shape.
Love it!!
I don't know why I didn't se this before.yes i do. I was up to my a$$ in electrical distraction. GREAT looking car. What are your plans with it? Leave it alone, or start modding. It looks just fine as it is,though. Just a wheel swap away from "don't touch it".
Wheels, window tint, and sound system. All other mods will be mechanical, but not to extreme.
i don't care for window tint.. but the rest sounds good! what kind of mods to you plan?
Not sure yet. It'll be a while before I start on much. I think rear end will be first upgrade. 3.55 or 3.73 would be a major improvement over 2.73. As for under the hood I could hop up the 5.0 or go for a 351.
go 351 if you don't mind doing a little work.. great motors, only downside is the low compression.. a nice set of GT40's will turn that around in a hurry
Looks good!
Where's Pampa? I have a 3.73 8.8 rear in the garage needing a home.
Never mind, you're WAY over to the West. That's quite a distance from me. I'm in the very South Central part of Oklahoma.
Low compression? Factory 5.0 has 8.4:1! 351 can't have much worse. Anyhow, with a good build it could be fixed with pistons and or heads.
5.0HO's had higher comp.. a 351w has about the same as a 5.0SO.. a simple swap to GT40P's would be a nice compression bump for a 351.. definitely recommend port work though
I'm no expert, but it thought the dished pistons made the s.o's .1 compression point higher then an h.o. the rotating assembly is the same other then pistons, and the heads are the same cc'sa
pretty sure HO's have higher compression.. to be honest, i'm not 110% sure on that, but i have a way of finding out.. give me 5 minutes..
ok.. here are zee numbers.. compared 88 lx HO to 88 bird sport for year and compression comparison..
first, 88 LX
Cylinders alignment: V 8
Displacement: 4942 cm3 / 301.6 cui
Bore: 101.6 mm / 4 in
Stroke: 76.2 mm / 3 in
Compression ratio: 9.2 : 1
and 88 sport:
Cylinders alignment: V 8
Displacement: 4942 cm3 / 301.6 cui
Bore: 101.6 mm / 4 in
Stroke: 76.2 mm / 3 in
Compression ratio: 8.9 : 1
I've got to get a better book! My Chilton only lists 1 5.0 for 88 and it says it has 8.4:1 compression. 9.2:1 is great. I need ALLDATA. 351 is a nice idea, but staying 5.0 may be the cheaper way to go. If 9.2:1 is my compression ratio, then it would not take much to wake this thing up. Like I said, mods will take a while, and rear gear will be first, along with brakes.
oops.. i didn't clarify.. those numbers are for an 88 LX mustang lol.. your motor only has 8.9:1 and is NON-HO.. you have an SO in your car which is an OK motor for very light mods, but you're better off with an HO bottom end. don't let it discourage you though.. you could turn your motor into an HO by doing a rebuild and opting for mustang OEM replacement pistons. that would be my honest to god only choice of doing it. sure, you can go out and buy a used HO and drop it in, but why? if you know how to rebuild a motor and just swap the pistons, you're starting off with a fresh motor, instead of something someone else has beaten on.. the best part of switching to HO pistons is the fact that they have valve reliefs, which broadens your cam selection by a pretty substantial margin. other than that, to make it an HO, you just need a cam that uses the 302 HO/351w firing order.. then you will officially have yourself an HO.. you may have to run a flat tappet cam, unless your block has the 2 threaded bungs in the lifter valley for the 'spider' that's used for ford's OEM style lifters, unless you want to spend a little more money and opt for aftermarket 'linked' roller lifters.
So let me ask you this. Bottom end is identical, minus pistons, which have less clearance on an s.o. motor, so how could the compression be higher without have smaller chambered heads?
I honestly don't belive there is much, if any diffrence in stock blocks other then machining tollerances. I am also curious what cam you cannot run on an s.o. motor, because of the pistons, that you can with stock h.o. pistons.
If the cam is too big for the SO motor, it will be too big for me anyhow. What is gained by changing firing order besides a need to change PCM?
HO pistons have valve reliefs that are deeper than the dish in SO pistons, allowing better PTV clearance, which allows for bigger cams.. i believe the compression distance is the same on both SO and HO pistons, but the dish in the SO pistons drops the compression .3:1 compared to the HO's
the HO firing order produces more power.. i believe it's a 25hp difference, stock cam to stock cam.. like i said, i BELIEVE that's the number, i may be wrong.. i'd have to look it up, but between the small compression jump and firing order change stock to stock, there is a reasonable power increase.. ford detuned the SO for the birds so it couldn't compete with the mustang.. there was a conversation about this on here not too long ago.. lol
1987-1988 5.0 HO motors produced 225 horsepower, the 1987-1988 SO produced 150 horsepower / 155 horsepower with dual exhaust in 1988. The tubular headers, e7 truck heads,valve relief forged pistons, better flowing upper intake plenum, bigger throttle body and fuel injectors work with the HO camshaft and computer to produce the 225 horsepower 5.0 HO speed density Mustang motor.
What I was saying, I have had an h.o. and s.o. piston side by side, and the bottom of the dish was about the same as the h.o. piston top. The ptv clearance is virtally identical between both motors. The power difference is all in the heads(maybe 5-10 hp) intake and throttle body (about the same) cam (10_15) and exhaust (5-10 hp). All of those things working together give you more power. The block has nothing to do with it, because it is the same, minus valve releifs.
Also, the same compressiong on a dished piston will create more power then a flat top with valve releifs. I would bet the machining tolerances are bigger then the differences in the piston height. And if you need more clearance in a s.o. block, just add your own valve releifs. Generally the stock h.o. came is close enough in power, that there isn't much reason to throw in a bigger cam. Especially if you have a good set of heads, intake and exhaust.
Oh, and unless you mill down the gt40 heads, they usually have 64cc heads, and stock is usually around 58cc. So you actually lose compression and gain air flow.
are you talking about gt40p's or standard gt40's? because the p heads all have 58cc chambers
Every set I have looked at had the 64cc. Not sure which is which.