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Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: 88turbo on October 12, 2011, 08:06:32 PM
came across this by accident and thought I would share :burnout:
(http://www.mcleodracing.com/images_products/5339.jpg)

http://www.mcleodracing.com/products/New+Products+for+2011.mcl
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: vinnietbird on October 12, 2011, 08:42:16 PM
I saw the same thing in my new Mustang magazine for about $600.00
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: Haystack on October 12, 2011, 10:13:07 PM
Are the newish (95-04) v-6's hydralic?
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: 5.0 tbird on October 12, 2011, 10:42:40 PM
Nope, they have a cable clutch.
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: Coliosis on October 13, 2011, 12:46:03 AM
my 95 ranger 4.0 was hydraulic... maybe with some fab?
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: shame302 on October 13, 2011, 10:43:30 AM
Seems like a great expense for another list of parts to fail or cause a problem for little to no gain.
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: 50tbrd88 on October 13, 2011, 04:23:56 PM
I would love to have a hydraulic clutch...
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: The Shredder on October 13, 2011, 05:06:07 PM
I like this setup as well.  $600 is steep, but my clutch setup is HEAVY right now.  I would love this setup.

Better start saving my sheckles...
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: shame302 on October 13, 2011, 05:44:40 PM
Quote from: 50tbrd88;370046
I would love to have a hydraulic clutch...

Why?


Quote from: The Shredder;370048
I like this setup as well.  $600 is steep,  but my clutch setup is HEAVY right now.  I would love this setup.

Better start saving my sheckles...

Why is your clutch so "heavy"?
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 13, 2011, 06:19:28 PM
Why not avoid using that whole quadrant/cable/master cylinder nightmare looking thing and go with a TC pedal assembly? Really, the only thing preventing a pesron from setting up a hydraulic clutch on a 5.0 is a suitable bellhousing/slave cylinder...
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: 88turbo on October 13, 2011, 07:10:15 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;370054
Why not avoid using that whole quadrant/cable/master cylinder nightmare looking thing and go with a TC pedal assembly? Really, the only thing preventing a pesron from setting up a hydraulic clutch on a 5.0 is a suitable bellhousing/slave cylinder...

good point....
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: vinnietbird on October 13, 2011, 07:59:33 PM
If the funds were fre, I'd like that setup, but, they aren't, so, back to messing with other parts and pieces.
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: Haystack on October 13, 2011, 10:10:32 PM
9 like being able to tell what the clutch is doing.
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: shame302 on October 13, 2011, 11:40:58 PM
Quote from: Haystack;370076
I like being able to tell what the clutch is doing.

+1 I've never driven a hydro equipped car that i cared for.
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: 50tbrd88 on October 14, 2011, 02:07:42 PM
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Why?


 Personally, I do not like the feel of the cable clutch compared to the hydraulic clutches I have had.  Every stick shift I've ever owned prior to converting my car to T5 had a hydraulic clutch...so I guess that's just what I'm used to.  Cable clutch reminds me of driving my Dad's '88 F-250 with granny 4 speed.

Plus I feel there is less maintenance/adjustment needed in the long run with a hyd clutch setup.  I can't wait for the day my clutch cable breaks and leaves me stranded on the side of the road in 5th gear.
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: shame302 on October 14, 2011, 06:24:35 PM
I suppose, if that's what you're used to and prefer. Too vague and honestly "light" for me. I prefer the simple, cheap, reliable cable.  It "should" never randomly fail. It likely won't fail without prior warning if you are using a quality cable. I've never broken, nor know of anybody that has ever broken one. In the slight chance that one time in my life perhaps it happnes, I can afford the tow if I can't manage to rev-match it home. IMHO, if you ever find yourself with a broken cable on the side of the road, It's your own fault.

With a hydro, specially with a hybrid setup (using a cable btw) like that i can see more potential for failure between reservoirs, fluids, hoses, clamps, pressure lines, fittings etc.... The TOB alone will likely be expensive to replace. Meh. Def not more reliable.

Far as maintenance, if you have a firewall adjuster you might have to turn it once every few... months, maybe? Haven't had to touch mine in 2 summers of driving. Pretty maintenance free aside from keeping an eyeball on things. If you have the stock adjuster you "might" have to yank on the pedal once in a great while.
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: 50tbrd88 on October 15, 2011, 03:16:52 PM
I feel I can manipulate the clutch much easier in my Mustang than the T-bird, especially when really banging the gears.  Of course its a 2007 model and comparing it to 80's/90's technology may not be fair. 

As far as broken clutch cables; every thread I searched throughout the internet said not to buy aftermarket clutch cables because they are "pr0ne to break".  I AM running the Ford cable, and it seems to be fine.  However, the plastic clutch quadrant left me wondering if I should indeed install it instead of buying all new aftermarket stuff.  I am going to run it for now, but plan to swap out the quadrant and get a firewall adjuster in the future.  Maybe I will like how my clutch pedal feels after that.
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: shame302 on October 15, 2011, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: 50tbrd88;370191
I feel I can manipulate the clutch much easier in my Mustang than the T-bird, especially when really banging the gears.  Of course its a 2007 model and comparing it to 80's/90's technology may not be fair. 
Valid. IMHO, sounds like either your Tbird needs some attention or you just simply prefer the marshmallow petal.

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As far as broken clutch cables; every thread I searched throughout the internet said not to buy aftermarket clutch cables because they are "pr0ne to break".  I AM running the Ford cable, and it seems to be fine.  However, the plastic clutch quadrant left me wondering if I should indeed install it instead of buying all new aftermarket stuff.  I am going to run it for now, but plan to swap out the quadrant and get a firewall adjuster in the future.  Maybe I will like how my clutch pedal feels after that.
Right, Buy a Ford cable. That's not difficult. If for some reason the plastic quadrant can't adjust properly (never seen or heard of one failing myself but it can happen) Replace it with quality parts and again, a Ford cable. Easy peasy chickin greezy. If your current cable is correct than it will probably feel the same or similar. It will be dead reliable though.
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: QUICKSHIFT on October 15, 2011, 08:16:42 PM
You can see a cable starting to "expire" but you never know when a slave cyl is getting ready to head south.
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: bullitt4514 on October 18, 2011, 03:23:13 PM
I like my steeda quadrant and firewall adjuster :D  Never had a ford cable break
Found this last time I had the trans out. Clutch was still fully disengaging :D
An after market cable would have snapped long before.

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180455_154102454643652_100001316940441_272419_7023312_n.jpg)
Title: mustang T5 hydraulic setup
Post by: flylear45 on October 20, 2011, 08:39:22 PM
No cables for me. I am a hydraulic guy all the way.

Rather than the expensive kit I'd just use a TC master with an appropriate internal slave. (I went auto on my latest build, so maybe I just oughta butt out!)