So one of the salesmen at work (actually the sales manager) is in a bit of trouble. He's a bit of a tool (as all car salesmen are) and he recently convinced the dealership owner to hire his 16 year old son on to wash cars. This boy, Jake, is stupid, spoiled and lazy. I am generally tolerant of just about anything, but I mean, "STUPID". Whenever you ask him something or say something to him you can almost see the fuses blowing behind his eyes as he tries to process it. And by lazy I mean we always see him sitting cross legged in the parking lot texting when he should be washing cars.
Anyway, right around the time I bought my Sonata Jake's father bought him a brand hammer new Mazda 3 6-speed. His father also spent a buttload of money on new rims, low profile tires, tinted windows, stereo system, and covered the car in stickers. Not two weeks after he got the car, the kid hooked the front bumper on one of those concrete-filled steel tubes they put at drive-through windows (this particular tube was at work, protecting the entrance to the wash bay) and peeled it clean off. About $1200 later the car is all painted up and pretty again.
Yesterday the father came up to me and showed me a pic of a completely demolished, burned up car and asked "Recognise this?", and I said no - it was so demolished and burned it couldn't be recognised. I thought it was one of our customers' cars. Turns out it was Jake's brand new car (less than 2k miles on it). Apparently he was showing off to some friends on a twisty road in an upscale neighbourhood and lost it going around a curve. Unfortunately, at just this moment, there was a late 90's Dakota coming the other way. He hit the Dakota head on, spun around, went in the ditch, came back out and went in on the other side, and rolled the car over 10X before landing back on the road, at which point the car burst into flames.
By some miracle, all of the kids got out of the car. Sticking with miracles, the two people in the Dakota survived. There were no fatalities. Everyone involved received fairly serious injuries. All were hospitalized, except Jake, the 16 year old spoiled brat of a driver.
So all day yesterday and today we heard Steve (the father) making excuses for his son, even going so far as to try to blame the Dakota driver because his tires were weather cracked and the safety sticker was set to expire the end of August. We all told Steve he's an idiot, it was all Jake's fault, he should thank God nobody was killed or critically wounded, and he should punish Jake severely. Instead he was already talking about buying Jake a new car with the insurance money.
And there's where he is f*cked. He met with his insurance adjuster this afternoon and came back very upset. Turns out that when he bought the car he did not put his 16 year old son on the policy. Not even as an "Occasional driver". Not only that, his policy clearly states "Not covered when operated by persons under 25 years of age". Which means that the entire mess; the Mazda 3, the Dakota, any towing and firefighting costs, the ambulance rides, all of it, is not covered. And as the owner of the vehicle responsible for the mess, he, Steve, is liable for it all. Any lawsuits (and there will be lawsuits) will be his responsibility.
He is absolutely f*cked.
And his son is too. He is definitely going to be charged with operating without insurance, and Steve said police are probably going to charge him with dangerous driving, speeding, crossing the center line, and something about driving with others in the car after dark (part of our province's "graduated driver" program limits passengers for inexperienced drivers).
I only wish I could show those pics of that car. You can get a good idea, though, by crumpling a piece of paper and lighting it on fire, then stepping on it to put it out...
Serves both of them right. The father should have taught that spoiled kid a little responsibility before buying him a brand new ride, and well he is a total tool if he didn't put the boy on the insurance, shiznit, he's already in it for the car, wheels, tires and retard stickers, what'sa little more money for insurance....
Wow , just wow
I wish we could go back to natrual selection. Save us all a lot of time and money.
Goes to show some lessons are expensive. Hope they learned from this one. Hope... :rolleyes:
Sad thing is, the world is completely full of morons like this.
He'll do it again.
One less mazda and dodge on the road... Just gotta look at the silver lining.
Seriously though, whats even worse is no one might ever get money from him because you cant get blood from a turnip.
If he'd (the dad) grown a sack and took the car after the kid peeled the front off...well, he mighta been better off.
Also goes to show how closely you should pay attention to paperwork (the insurance deal, I refer to).
And....who in the shag turns their 16 year old kid loose in a BRAND NEW car!?
And now he's already talking about doing it again!? I'll be double dipped in salty dog shiznit! Hopefully the kids loses his privilege to drive for a very long time.
The only positive thing I have: at least nobody was killed. Amen.
Keep us posted on this one, please.....
Hell. I don't know what it'd do. That's rough. The kid isn't covered so now the dad has to come up with money on his own to cover the other persons car... Too late to report it stolen too... :/
I will keep y'all posted.
Beau: Everyone at the dealership, including the owner of the dealership, told Steve he was stupid for buying his son a brand new car. The owner even offered to give him one of our traded-in beaters. He declined - he insisted on brand new for his boy. Even after the wreck he justifies it by saying "If he'd been in an old Neon or cavalier he'd be dead". Which is fair enough, but if he'd been in an old beater there's a chance he wouldn't have been showing off, either...
Coliosis: The guy is not rich, but he's not suffering. He's got a newer Subarau thing, a nice house in a nice neighbourhood, a 31-foot boat, and of course he could afford to buy his son a new car. All of that could very well change once all this settles though...
And jpc647: That was my thought too - it's too late to say the kid took the car without permission.
I did find one thing out today though - the insurance company may be forced to pay the liability part by law - same as they'd have to pay if it had been an impaired incident. They even have to pay if somebody steals the car and kills someone with it. This means the Dakota people and the passengers in the car will be covered. Unfortunately for Steve, though, the insurance company has the right to sue him for anything they pay out. And they are not obligated to pay for the Mazda 3...
Yeah, they will probably pay the Dakota and sue Steve. I'm learning a lot about how liability and insurance works, dealing with the drunk that hit me.
I will say that people get what is coming to them. He made mistakes with insurance, his finances and his son. I don't mean to be "That Guy", but every penny he ends up paying, and the trouble he gets into was his fault. Teenagers are irresponsible, and his son doesn't sound one bit close to being anything but that. This world is full of idiots. My first car wasn't bought for me, and I still have it. I pay for everything and cherish it, and respect my possessions.
I highly doubt that. Some people will try stupid shiznit no matter what they're driving. And he sounds like one of those people...
I agree. I used to do plenty of dumb shi* in my 88 3.8l T-bird. That car wouldn't get out of it's own way, but I used to beat it to death trying to make it do so.
hopefully the boy learned the lesson.
when I was young destroyed a nissan sunny, total mind drunk.
alchol now not part of my life.
It sounds like the little SH*T apple doesn't fall to far from the SH*T tree !!!
I like the way you think.
My old boss's daughter had an accedent that sounds alot like this one she even had a mazda 3. Only her's ended badly. Herself and 2 passengers were killed. It happened a week before Thanksgiving, she hung in there until before Christmas, it was terrable.
Many years ago, a good friend of mine got his first car - an '89 XR7. He would do things in that car that still amaze me today, like doing donuts in a parking lot with parked cars and pedestrians everywhere.
He once stopped on a hill and did a minute-long burnout, and there was too much smoke for him to realize that there was another car that had pulled up behind him. As he launched the car, the now-sticky rear tires (more than likely cookin' at about 60 mph) picked up a rock and chucked it through the windshield of the car behind him.
Nobody should have a car that's even mildly fast until they grow out of those tendencies.
My first car was an '86 Cougar with the 3.8; I couldn't get the rear wheels to spin even if I had it off the ground.
I can remember all the dumb shiznit I did when I was younger...and how I was lucky.
A few of my friends and people I knew from school weren't though...I try to make it their graves every Memorial Day...
When I think about doing some dumbass stuff....I think of the pain I will cause to the ones I leave behind if luck runs out.
Needless to say....
I can't believe he's considering buying his son ANOTHER brand new car. What a dumb F*ck.
A girl I knew got a new convertible Mustang GT, got in a wreck and rolled it, and was subsequently rewarded with a new Nissan Murano. You know, for every smart person out there, there's about 10 stupid ones. Most of the time, the smart ones can compensate for the stupidity of those 10 idiots, however one or two seem to stray sometimes...
I'm not saying I was a saint - my first car was a '78 Trans Am with an LT1 from a '70 Corvette, and I frequently explored the deepest reaches of that 160 MPH speedo (including sailing past a speed trap at an indicated 120 MPH - the cop turned his lights on, then turned them back off. I got off at the next exit and hid in the subdivisions for a few hours). It is a miracle that I never wrecked that car and hurt myself and/or others. In retrospect I'd kick my own ass if I could go back in time and see my 16-17 year old self acting such an ass. Hindsight is indeed 20/20.
That being said, I bought that $600 car with my own money and kept it running with my own blood, sweat, and tears (and more than one dubious repair) and therefore had at least a little bit of respect for it and what it was capable of (and what would happen if I broke it). Had I wrecked it I can assure you all that I never would have been rewarded with a brand new one, in fact, if I wrecked it and survived my father would have seen to it that the survival was temporary.
That being said, it's looking very unlikely that the kid will have any car, new or old, for a while yet. He is certain to lose his license for at least a year, and the father isn't exactly going to have a bunch of extra money lying about...
Respect is earned not given, and common sense is not so common.
In time some will learn, others will die trying.
Bring up at work that you have gone over 10k without an oil change and see how many people never have, and how many have
Some people believe anything that they have been told, or use it as an excuse for their actions.
I have taken out a caddilac, knocked over a fire hydrant and gotten a ticket for 25 over in a 25.
We have all done stupid things. It just takes some of us longer the figure it out or we die trying. I just have gotten lucky.
I have been driving for 10 years now, I have not been in a single accident that was my fault. I was rear ended at a red light once. That's it. I drive hard and fast, but all of my friends consider me the best driver they know. At the same time, I was never given anything. I earned every car I had so perhaps that had something to do with it. I agree that we need to go back to natural selection, I think she's getting lazy and should give me her job. :)
I hope the kid and the dad get their asses burnt for this, it's nothing more than pure stupidity on both of them.
My first accident I had my son, 8 months old in the car with me. I always considered my accident free record a good thing. I went over 7 years without an accident and 5 without and ticket. It taught me to think I was a good driver, and everyone else sucked. My kid was crying in the back seat because he dropped his bottle. I turned around to pick it up while the guy infront of me decided to turn right without signaling. My fault. I would not have considered it to be stuip at the time, if I wouldn't have hit him.
^----ain't that the truth!
First car was an 81 el camino, I had to make floor boards, install a new wiring harness from a donor malibu, and wet sand a cartoon character off the rear. x2 on driving for 10 years no accidents and only 1 speeding ticket. I frequently exceed every posted speed listing unless its in a town (people walking not worth the risk). People need to learn common sense and have a dad who takes your car away if its dirty or you don't change the oil on time like mine.
I have to agree, from a rational standpoint. I'm but 21 years old, and my dream when I was 16 was a 300+hp car, and I worked hard to make my old T-Bird fast. But between the ages of 16 and 17 guys do very stupid things with cars. We set up a moving slolum course on the interstate one night. 6-7 cars, all moving exactly 60 mph in the middle lane. The last car in line would slolum(sp?) through the group until he was the lead. When everyone went through 1x we speeded up to 70. We got through this 4 times until at 90 a jeep in the convoy was at his redline. I did this in my 1988 3.8l. We did the same thing on the southbound side on the way home. Wild crazy fun, very stupid. Had we had actual cars with any marginal amount of power, we would have started at 90 and went up, and someone would be dead.
I have fun in my Genesis Coupe now, on-ramps at 75mph, the occasional hole shot, or chirping it into second, but i've toned down. Having a real job and expenses does that to a person. Had I had a comparable car to the genesis, it'd either still not have a license, or it'd have totaled a car.
Heheh, that sounds kinda fun... :D x_x
Yep , they are the 10% minority that end up becoming the majority rule who generally complain until all the rules or laws suit them.
Reality check, this kid does have a bad influence of a father figure, not only should the kid have his tail end roasted (long over due) but the father needs ,,,,,oh what the bloody hell,,, his father is most likely a lost cause so why bother. Simply put,,,,, *what haystack said*
I dont think so,,,,
exhibit 1= kid sitting on the curb texting when he should have been working.
This is a sure sign of someone who want the easy way out and a freebee at every intersection of life.
I suspect if you ask him what he wants to "be" when he settles into a job, it will have something to do with not getting his hands directly on the very thing he wants to manage or be president of.
Try at you're own risk, lol.
While this kid is obliviously a dumbass showoff, it all starts with the father. Not only does he buy the unexperienced kid a new car, he tricks it all out, even before the kid had a real job that just shows the values that he must have and the dad either must now know how to stand up to his son, or likes to show off through his son, either way, hes a dipship and if i was the kid and the father i would be thanking my lucky stars nobody got hurt because it just doesnt always happen that way.
Not to get off topic but here was my start and how it relates
I broke my dads balls consistently when i was younger to get a car, and he never budged and it made me get my first job, when i was only 12, i worked for a local farm selling corn, veggies, plants, ect, and even caddied for golf every weekend, just to muster up enough cash to buy my first car. A few weeks later i found my first car ( my 88tc btw) but i had only saved up around $120 at the time and they were asking $500, Luckily my dad loaned me the money and we brought it home. But it didnt stop there, of course i wanted a cam, and a stereo, and wheels, ect. So i got a job at an Auto body/ restoration shop, and worked there every day after school and every summer full time, and slowly i was building my car, and by the time i was 16, me and my dad built a car i was proud of, and i could call my own after many years of hard work and learning valuable lessons.
When i was in Highschool, so many of my friends parents got them new cars, M3's, S'4s, GTI's, Civic Si's ect, and they were always getting their parents to buy them new parts, exhausts, suspensions, ect. Sure it sucked seeing my lazy buddies hangin out after school and partying while i went to work. Getting brand new top of the line parts, while me and my dad picked though junk yards and made our own.. Whats the point of this story you may say?? Well as time went on the true colors came out, and while my friends cars were getting ruined with, careless accidents, dings, car wash scratches ect, my 88tc was getting nicer and nicer, and faster and faster. With all that hard work and time i couldnt just destroy something i worked so hard for, and the feeling of beating all the new cars the kids had gotten with my old 88tc was priceless.
But in the end, its not about a car, Its about life. And working for my car taught me many life lessons, got me into my profession, and made me appreciate the cost of things. I couldnt of done it myself, and if i didnt have great parents that pushed me to do so, Woke up at 5am on weekends just to drive me to work and show me that hard work does pay off.
I have 2 different unrelated customers, both with young, spoiled kids. One kid has Totaled, 2 Mitsubishi Evos, 4 hondas/acuras, 1 GTR nissan, and now has another new evo 10 and turbo civic Daily driver, lets see how long they last... None of them were stock and i was always doing some upgrade on them, The kid couldnt care less about the cars, even with 100 miles on them, they already had cigarette burns on the seats, and were just used and abused. The kid is Extremely lucky only having minor injuries with all these accidents, and his passengers fared the same and even get back in the car with him...
The other kid is the same story, Hes also had an Evo, a few STI's, 2 SRT neons, and a few jeeps and infinitys into the mix. Again, none of them were stock and both these kids are regulars in my shop, for upgrades, or to repair scratches/ dings.. And they both couldnt care less how many cars they wreck, and likewise the parents just keep buying them cars and getting outrageous insurance payments.. its really something else
Dead threads alive, what ever happened to that dipshiznit, Thunderchicken?
Here's hopin' that brainless kid got dropped in a well with a concrete block tied to his ass.
Dunno, his father was fired from the dealership, so I never found out. Given the state of the Canadian justice system, which is just as bad as the American one, I'm gonna guess nothing happened at all, other than a license suspension and a fine. He's a youth, so he won't even have a record...
Sure sounds like my dad and little sister. We all knew it would never end until he died. I never got to see a dentist until I went into the service, but my little sister had braces and gold fillings. My older sister tried to help her out (after she found out her stupid husband was cheating on her) by renting one of her rentals for almost nothing, but she didn't think she should have to pay the rent. So when my sister had to ask her to leave, my little sister left and stole the refrigerator. My little sister (who's 48 now) is still around living off my mom (the legacy lives on) in her house with her four kids. Gee. I wonder who's going to support her when my mom dies and there's no more pension or social security....(lol).
I worked in the body shop of the local Ford dealer from 1987-1990. In that period of time we had 5-6 kids that came in with their crashed 5.0 Mustangs on a tow truck. The body shop manager would estimate the value of what was left and they would use it as a down payment on usually a truck or a Bronco. One of the parents would run a check over, and just a few hours after the accident they would be driving off in another new car that daddy thought was "Safer". It was pretty funny seeing this happen time after time. I wonder how many made it to the ripe old age of 30.